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The stealing signals excuse/theory

Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:08 am
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:08 am
Seems kind of far fetched. I mean Kiffin was last here in what 2016? And we’ve had 2-3 different D coordinators since then. And we are still using the exact same signals?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:10 am to
He didn't even say that really. He literally said it almost in passing as a quib about how great Lane's plan was.
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
6312 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:19 am to
Even if it is true, no need to say it out loud. It's a bad look. And that wouldn't impact shitty tackling one bit anyway.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6669 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:23 am to
quote:

He didn't even say that really. He literally said it almost in passing as a quib about how great Lane's plan was.


Okay. But I believe Moses was quoted as saying “definitely” they were stealing signals.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:24 am to
Moses saying it is a totally different story for sure.

That shite is pathetic
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7187 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:25 am to
If they are truly using that excuse then it’s a pathetic look. If Saban really believes that then he’s more out of touch with reality than I realized.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 9:27 am
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4350 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:26 am to
This one is on Saban.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62697 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:51 am to
Did ole miss change up plays after the defense was set?
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3348 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:08 am to
Regardless, they would only need to steal a few signals. The rest of the time they ran hurry up and kicked us in the nuts, didn’t need to steal shite on like 75% of their plays.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 10:23 am
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:19 am to
Its an excuse. Poor fundamentals and lack of execution is not a result of knowing signals.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64883 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:24 am to
quote:

This one is on Saban.


He knows this because he said it last night at his PC. About him mentioning Kiffin stealing signals, he clearly wasn’t throwing an accusation at him. He was complimenting him because he mentioned that they had the perfect counter drawn up for every alignment our defense showed last night. To make sure this wasn’t taken the wrong way and mistaken as an excuse, he made sure it was understood that stealing signals is not uncommon and thus part of the game.

Dylan Moses, on the other hand, wanted to make it an excuse for why the defense he quarterbacks played so poorly last night.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 10:25 am
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60237 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Seems kind of far fetched. I mean Kiffin was last here in what 2016? And we’ve had 2-3 different D coordinators since then. And we are still using the exact same signals?



Stealing signals doesn’t mean he knew the signals from when he coached at Bama. High school teams have coaches whose jobs are to steal signals. You don’t think colleges have multiple people working on this? Saban said it’s not uncommon for teams to steal the signals. I didn’t take it as he knew them from his time in Tuscaloosa.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
1769 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:16 pm to
Saban didn't say stealing signals, he said they knew the play. That can easily be familiarity with sets they run. Moses saying "they stole the plays" could be a response to adjustments made before the snap.

Conjecture for both sides, but if I had to guess i'd figure Kiffin just knows Saban's tendencies after 3 years of nonstop play at practice and last years film of Golding's defense. He kicked our arse last year in the run game too.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 12:17 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20750 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:57 pm to
It doesn’t upset me if Ole Miss knew our signals. That’s on us and it still doesn’t excuse poor fundamentals.

Now if Kiffin/Ole Miss did something nefarious to get them, that’s another story. I don’t think they did that though.

Kiffin’s little pregame stunt last night makes me remember the 2009 UT game where they alleged that their headsets were malfunctioning. I think that was a total ploy to get in our staff’s heads.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 2:18 pm to
More shite that was never an issue before 2012
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4350 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 2:22 pm to
I don't think ole miss changed the play for his wife....
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4350 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 2:24 pm to
It doesn't matter what happened last night. we still screwed ourselves with playcalling on defense, players not lining up, moses still favoring his knee, Harris stay confused, Secondary forgetting to cover RB and TE time to time.... If I was the coach, I would force the guy to memorize the TE and RB jersey number and stay with them at all. "you see 27? Stay with him. Do not let him pass you by."
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13141 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 2:33 pm to
Head coach I coached with you used to say “ if he goes to take a shite.... I want you with him”

Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20447 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

He didn't even say that really. He literally said it almost in passing as a quib about how great Lane's plan was.




This.

It's amazing how many of our own fans didn't watch the press conference and are making stupid comments about it.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16968 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:06 pm to
Kiffin just addressed this on Twitter and said they were calling plays well before the defense was. They weren’t stealing signals. It’s an excuse plain and simple.
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