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re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:26 am to TomRollTideRitter
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:26 am to TomRollTideRitter
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It wasn't many, but the point still stands. He looked like he'd made very little progress in reading the field
Its hard to read the field when you have guys running unimpeded at you almost every play.
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:27 am to uofarolltide
FSU is a very good team and you guys dominated them in the second half. I doubt you'll play a better team the rest of the year.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:27 am to TomRollTideRitter
I'm not ready to make a judgment off of a handful of plays. We'll see if the improvement has been made as the season moves by.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:39 am to CrimsonBoz
Its funny and ironic.
You have people complaining Hurts wasn't going through his reads and was impatient....
....selectively ignoring the fact damn near every time he got the snap he had at least one person running free right at him.
Let's use our brains and think logically.
How in the world is he suppose to be patient with his reads and not run out of the pocket under that much duress and when he never really had a pocket?
If he took 10 sacks yesterday the same people woukd be complaining about Hurts having no pocket awareness. Lol, this is crazy
You have people complaining Hurts wasn't going through his reads and was impatient....
....selectively ignoring the fact damn near every time he got the snap he had at least one person running free right at him.
Let's use our brains and think logically.
How in the world is he suppose to be patient with his reads and not run out of the pocket under that much duress and when he never really had a pocket?
If he took 10 sacks yesterday the same people woukd be complaining about Hurts having no pocket awareness. Lol, this is crazy
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:42 am to Bham Bammer
Man, I was excited to see some little underneath clear out quick routes to the slot ala the Pats. Seems like they could have been effective against that aggressive defense.
The good news is that we probably won't play a better team during the regular season, maybe all year. Oline has to get better.
The good news is that we probably won't play a better team during the regular season, maybe all year. Oline has to get better.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:47 am to YStar
quote:Yes. But many times it was one person, and there are other skills QBs can use to escape one defender without tucking the ball any running. The concern is there because we've seen this movie before and it has cost us. We're all supportive of 2, but it's not crazy to point this out.
damn near every time he got the snap he had at least one person running free right at him.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:47 am to Funky Tide 8
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I keep reading about this supposed "pocket" from last night, but I don't think I ever saw one.
Yeah, you saw one.
But probably only one.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:56 am to uofarolltide
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The Good - Our defense. When FSU was driving there was some concern, but looking back now that the dust has settled, we DOMINATED on defense. We held a hot FSU QB to virtually nothing. We hit Francois until he left the field on a stretcher.
I agree for the most part about the defense in the second half, but not so much in the first. I don't think we had much pressure on Francois the first half...don't think we had a sack...and let's face it: if the shoe is on the other foot, we're all bitching about PI in the endzone not being called. They get the PI call, and then if we don't get the big plays on special teams, that game could have been a dog fight that would have had to be won by a FG kicker.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:02 am to BamaGradinTn
That wasn't PI. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know the college rule. You don't have to turn your head in college. Brown put his hand in as the ball arrived.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:08 am to BamaGradinTn
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and let's face it: if the shoe is on the other foot, we're all bitching about PI in the endzone not being called
Meh, Brown got there a tad early but in real time, I dont expect a ref to make that call every time.
It was a makeup call for that blatantly missed facemask on Jalen on that third down earlier in the game.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:22 am to TomRollTideRitter
quote:It was definitely PI. It's not that he didn't turn his head, it's that he hit the guy before the ball got there.
That wasn't PI. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know the college rule
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:28 am to YStar
I'll give you an example of him not making progress - on a pre-snap read that would have saved him from being pressured:
On a 3rd and long, FSU overloaded our right with Derwin James and another blitzer. We had Ridley to that side on a slant route. At the snap, if both are coming that is an automatic go-to. QB 101. If one bails into coverage you either go to Ridley if he beats his man off the line or go to another read. Not only did Hurts not pick it up, it doesn't even appear as if he looked that way before the ball was snapped. Instead, he locks in on one receiver to his left, tries to force it in and we get an INC.
I'm guardedly hopeful that the kid has made progress, but I have my doubts.
However, I will say in the actual physical throwing of the ball he looked better. He got robbed of a TD in the end zone where he absolutely dropped it in the bucket and our TF wide receiver bricked it.
I'm more concerned with him from the neck up than the shoulder down.
On a 3rd and long, FSU overloaded our right with Derwin James and another blitzer. We had Ridley to that side on a slant route. At the snap, if both are coming that is an automatic go-to. QB 101. If one bails into coverage you either go to Ridley if he beats his man off the line or go to another read. Not only did Hurts not pick it up, it doesn't even appear as if he looked that way before the ball was snapped. Instead, he locks in on one receiver to his left, tries to force it in and we get an INC.
I'm guardedly hopeful that the kid has made progress, but I have my doubts.
However, I will say in the actual physical throwing of the ball he looked better. He got robbed of a TD in the end zone where he absolutely dropped it in the bucket and our TF wide receiver bricked it.
I'm more concerned with him from the neck up than the shoulder down.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:30 am to TomRollTideRitter
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That wasn't PI. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know the college rule. You don't have to turn your head in college. Brown put his hand in as the ball arrived.
Don't give us this BS about "doesn't know the college rule" like some 20 year old dumbass who thinks he's the only one around here who knows the rules. "Got his hand in"? What game were you watching? Brown never once made a play on the ball, practically tackling the FSU WR as he tried to make the catch. This was pass interference all day long. You've got to be just about the biggest Bama homer to not admit it. Don't give people bullshite about not knowing the rules when you're clueless yourself.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:36 am to JuiceTerry
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It was definitely PI. It's not that he didn't turn his head, it's that he hit the guy before the ball got there.
Bingo.
But you can't trust the announcers either...they said the ball would have been spotted at the 2, but it wouldn't have, since the LOS was the 20.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:46 am to MontyFranklyn
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Do you all not realize that we played a defense as good as ours?
I don't think they are as good as us, but they are one of the best in cfb no doubt.
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Being that it was Daboll's first game and it was against a top 5 defense, I think it went pretty well. We will look alot better against SEC defenses
This, completely.
People are also ignoring that our defense and special teams gave us great field position which limited our stats and playcalling.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:56 am to BamaGradinTn
Maybe it was just cause I was watching in the stadium, but it looked to me like he timed getting his hands up into the receiver as the ball arrived.
Eta: Looked up the replay, and it does look like Brown was a tad early. By no means a blatant missed call and very hard to see in realtime.
Eta: Looked up the replay, and it does look like Brown was a tad early. By no means a blatant missed call and very hard to see in realtime.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:40 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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I'll give you an example of him not making progress - on a pre-snap read that would have saved him from being pressured: On a 3rd and long, FSU overloaded our right with Derwin James and another blitzer. We had Ridley to that side on a slant route. At the snap, if both are coming that is an automatic go-to. QB 101. If one bails into coverage you either go to Ridley if he beats his man off the line or go to another read. Not only did Hurts not pick it up, it doesn't even appear as if he looked that way before the ball was snapped. Instead, he locks in on one receiver to his left, tries to force it in and we get an INC. I'm guardedly hopeful that the kid has made progress, but I have my doubts. However, I will say in the actual physical throwing of the ball he looked better. He got robbed of a TD in the end zone where he absolutely dropped it in the bucket and our TF wide receiver bricked it. I'm more concerned with him from the neck up than the shoulder down.
Wow, finally someone that knows wtf they're talking about. People act like if we had Peyton Manning at QB he would've been sacked 20 times and thrown 10 pick sixes because of the "relentless pressure." There are ways to deal with a blitz. There are ways to deal with pressure. Francois was doing it all night, and did pretty damn well in the first half.
Like you said, with Jalen it's from the neck up, and I get the feeling he's not gonna change much.
Our defense is so good we'll be able to get by just about anyone, but I have a feeling Jalen passing for 90 yards is going to happen again and cost us a playoff game or championship.
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