Started By
Message
The Dynasty Isn't Dead
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:23 pm
The results of Monday were due to one thing, pass rush. The past 2-3 cycles Bama has missed on elite pass rushers and interior linemen on defense. Of not for QW meteoric rise, we likely get exposed far sooner. Add in the ability for the offense to score quickly and often, and it was disguised. Those who know football know that with THL and Allen, we likely beat Clemson because their 3rd and long conversions likely decrease to about 30-40 percent instead on 60+. A secondary's best friend is and always will be an elite pass rush. We will have that again next year and years going forward while hopefully maintaining the offensive efficiency.
The Empire will strike back.
The Empire will strike back.
6
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:25 pm to MontyFranklyn
I mean, dynasty implies singular power over all and that's clearly not the case anymore. You dont really "share" dynasties with another team/family/ruler.
However, we're still an elite team very much at the top of CFB.
However, we're still an elite team very much at the top of CFB.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:
I mean, dynasty implies singular power over all and that's clearly not the case anymore. You dont really "share" dynasties with another team/family/ruler.
I hear you and don't disagree, but dynasties are not always wall-to-wall champions. Patriots don't win the Super Bowl every year yet many refer to them as a Dynasty.
Having said that, I don't think anyone can say "It's Alabama and everyone else" now.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Do what now?
dynasty implies singular power over all
Dynasty in the sporting sense is a prolonged run of successful seasons. For CFB this can be viewed in terms of wins or championships. In either view Alabama is still a dynasty.
Having said that, Monday could very well be a Miami moment.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:31 pm to FairhopeTider
quote:
I hear you and don't disagree, but dynasties are not always wall-to-wall champions. Patriots don't win the Super Bowl every year yet many refer to them as a Dynasty.
Having said that, I don't think anyone can say "It's Alabama and everyone else" now.
Yea, us losing one isnt what changes things, Clemson winning 2 of those is what changes things.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:33 pm to Bamadiver
quote:
Do what now?
Dynasty in the sporting sense is a prolonged run of successful seasons. For CFB this can be viewed in terms of wins or championships. In either view Alabama is still a dynasty.
Having said that, Monday could very well be a Miami moment.
Not when another team is winning as often as you are. Perhaps I'm off, but generally it implies dominating the sport. You could call us and Clemson co-dynasties I guess, like the Celts/Lakers of the 80s.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:33 pm to MontyFranklyn
quote:
The results of Monday were due to one thing, pass rush.
That was key on defense for sure, but lack of a pass rush didn't have anything to do with the offense getting blanked for the entire second half and a decent portion of the 2nd quarter. The dynasty was built on suffocating defense and power running offense, I'd like to see it get back to more of that
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:35 pm to jchamil
It did. It forced us to get out of our game plan and be more aggressive on offense than usual. The pick 6 didn't help, but it out is in a mode to try shoot it out.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I am unconcerned with Alabama being referenced as a dynasty. I am concerned with Alabama learning from this loss, making the necessary steps to correct the mistakes and moving on in a positive and winning manner.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:40 pm to stat19
quote:
I am unconcerned with Alabama being referenced as a dynasty. I am concerned with Alabama learning from this loss, making the necessary steps to correct the mistakes and moving on in a positive and winning manner.
Yup
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:43 pm to MontyFranklyn
We’ve won 5 titles with Saban. Clemson has won two.
We’ve played for 7, Clemson for 2.
Again, we just pulled in an elite recruiting class (elite relative to our past classes, which is a scary thought for opposition in the next 3-4 years)
This program has PROVEN they can RESPOND to bad season-endings.
The dynasty is NOT dead. It wasn’t dead after the bad ending to 2013, the Ole Miss loss in 2015, or the heartbreaking 2016 season national championship. And it’s not dead now either.
We’ve played for 7, Clemson for 2.
Again, we just pulled in an elite recruiting class (elite relative to our past classes, which is a scary thought for opposition in the next 3-4 years)
This program has PROVEN they can RESPOND to bad season-endings.
The dynasty is NOT dead. It wasn’t dead after the bad ending to 2013, the Ole Miss loss in 2015, or the heartbreaking 2016 season national championship. And it’s not dead now either.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:43 pm to MontyFranklyn
quote:
It did. It forced us to get out of our game plan and be more aggressive on offense than usual.
Maybe after the awful attempt of a fake field goal. Before that, Jacobs was still gashing their defense until inside the red zone. Getting absolutely dominated by their defense once inside the 20 was much more the cause of the scoring drought than lack of a pass rush. There was so much more wrong with that game than just lack of a pass rush
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:50 pm to The Silverback
RIP Alabama football
From a great run starting in 1925, it was laid to rest In Columbia, SC in 2010.
Then again in Tuscaloosa in 2011, and again in Tuscaloosa in 2012, then in Auburn in 2013, then New Orleans and Oxford in 2014, then Tuscaloosa in 2016, and finally for real this time in Santa Clara.
There's always a big deal made when Alabama loses a game because it doesn't happen much. Granted, we don't lose by 4 touchdowns..but that was just a weird game. I thought Ohio State beat us worse than Clemson and we threw a hail mary that would've tied that game on the final play. We just didn't turn red zone appearances into points. I think if we play Clemson 10 times we probably win 6-7. I honestly believe that. They outgained us by about 40 yards monday night. It was just a poor game plan that was poorly executed, coupled with Clemson preparing an excellent game plan that was executed almost to perfection. Tip of the cap to them, but I'm also not shopping for a suit to wear to the funeral.
From a great run starting in 1925, it was laid to rest In Columbia, SC in 2010.
Then again in Tuscaloosa in 2011, and again in Tuscaloosa in 2012, then in Auburn in 2013, then New Orleans and Oxford in 2014, then Tuscaloosa in 2016, and finally for real this time in Santa Clara.
There's always a big deal made when Alabama loses a game because it doesn't happen much. Granted, we don't lose by 4 touchdowns..but that was just a weird game. I thought Ohio State beat us worse than Clemson and we threw a hail mary that would've tied that game on the final play. We just didn't turn red zone appearances into points. I think if we play Clemson 10 times we probably win 6-7. I honestly believe that. They outgained us by about 40 yards monday night. It was just a poor game plan that was poorly executed, coupled with Clemson preparing an excellent game plan that was executed almost to perfection. Tip of the cap to them, but I'm also not shopping for a suit to wear to the funeral.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:50 pm to jchamil
Three did us no good there, we needed 6. Locks didn't help, but we got behind and needed TDs. We shouldn't have come out passing as much as we did and it bit us.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:58 pm to MontyFranklyn
quote:
The results of Monday were due to one thing, pass rush
A lack of pass rush isn’t what kept our elite offense from scoring for 2 quarters. Do agree with your sentiment that this game is nothing to worry about, but it was way more than just the lack of pass rush that allowed us to be destroyed.
We out gained them by like 55 yards until the last drive, when our defense completely gave up. The score shows an arse beating of a team completely inferior to their opponent, but the stats show that we just made way too many simple mistakes (penalties, interceptions, blown coverages, etc.) that we were not prone to make and went full retard with the play calling in the red zone.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:00 pm to BigBird09
Locks didn't help, but he was pressed and we couldn't expose certain things on a short field against Clemson
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Correct.
You could call us and Clemson co-dynasties I guess, like the Celts/Lakers of the 80s.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:07 pm to MontyFranklyn
Did our pass rush hurt our red zone offense?
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:09 pm to MontyFranklyn
quote:
The Dynasty Isn't Dead
Certainly hope no one is arguing that. One blowout loss doesn't change the fact that Monday night's game was Alabama's 4th straight national title appearance. To go along with that, Alabama has yet again stock piled on some of the best recruits from around the country and just had an entire season of butt fricking the rest of the SEC, minus Georgia.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:26 pm to KareemAbdul
I agree, the dynasty isn’t dead, but it took a hit. We didn’t just get beat Monday night, we got shellacked. It was embarrassing and demoralizing. The players and coaches can either use it as fuel to get better or they can keep doing what they’ve been doing. Doing what they’ve been doing is good and it will get us in the playoffs most years but the rest of college football has closed the gap significantly. UGA is breathing down our neck and Clemson keeps standing toe to toe with us. Monday they punched us in the mouth and we couldn’t recover. We’d better refocus and rededicate or we’re about to be passed.
Page 1 of 2
Latest Alabama News
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News