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re: The Brian Daboll File - Alabama's next OC : Saban wants the Patriot Offense

Posted on 2/16/17 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 8:25 pm to
How did Saban do as Dolphins HC?
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 8:48 pm to
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How did Saban do as Dolphins HC?


not so great either
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 9:02 pm to
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I could easily give you examples of coaches who sucked in the NFL and in college.


Ray Perkins

Anyone?

Bueller?
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 10:13 pm to
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Moreover, his first season as OC for the Jaguars in 99 was the best season in franchise history and saw the team set offensive franchise records.


Petrino didn't become the OC until 2001. They were in the lower half of the league in both total and scoring offense that season.

While it is true the Jaguars were really good offensively in '99 (when Petrino was the QB coach), it didn't hurt that they had the league's #1 defense on the other side of the football.
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 6:22 am to
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Many appreciate Saban's defensive acumen, but underestimate his offensive expertise.

Saban likes to tell a story of how he likes working on offense even if it doesn't come natural to him. When he played QB in high school, he would call the plays in the huddle. Late in a playoff game, his team was losing and faced with like 4th and 20. They had to go for it. Saban called a play action pass, completed it, and they won the game. After the game the head coach and his dad both chewed him out for calling play action on 4th and a million, and Saban told them he didn't realize how irrelevant the fake was
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:44 am to
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Hurts was only the SEC Offensive Player of the Year. Could anyone ask more of a true freshman?


IMHO Jonah should've won it...but OL aren't typically going to win that award
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 8:10 pm to
It's Daboll
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 8:57 pm to
Yep. ESPN reported first, citing "sources." And AL.com then reported it's been confirmed via "sources." I posted the articles in OC Search thread.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 8:59 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 6:41 am to
Confirmed: Saban Hires Brian Daboll as Offensive Coordinator | RollBamaRoll
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The coaching staff is in place, now it’s time to get to work.

After a week of speculation, we can now confirm that Alabama has hired New England tight ends coach Brian Daboll to run the offense:

Daboll returned to the Patriots as a coaching assistant in 2013 and had been the tight ends coach since 2014, leading a group that included star Rob Gronkowski.

The Ontario native has also been a quarterbacks coach for the New York Jets (2007-08) and the offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns (2009-10), Miami Dolphins (2011) and Kansas City Chiefs (2012).

OK, let’s get this out of the way.

Every one of the offenses that Daboll coordinated were putrid. In fact, every head coach that Daboll worked for during that period was fired, and offensive ineptitude was a major driving factor in each case. There is reason for concern given his history as a play-caller. Likewise, since Daboll has worked almost exclusively in the NFL, he has no recruiting background. On the surface this move is something of a head scratcher.

Needless to say, Nick Saban has earned a certain amount of trust from the fanbase. He gave Daboll his first coaching job as a graduate assistant and, when Bill Belichick was building his initial staff in New England, Saban recommended Daboll to his mentor and friend. Daboll has been with Belichick in New England for 11 of his 17 seasons in the league. Saban knows exactly what he’s getting in Daboll, and in the end that was the key to the hire.

So, what will the offense look like?

The New England offense is built around the principles of the Erhardt-Perkins system, favoring simplified terminology and a scheme built around perfect execution of a few basic concepts, that can each be run out of multiple formations and personnel groups, rather than a thick playbook. Backs and receivers are virtually plug-and-play outside, and a strong ball control running game is the nucleus.

From Grantland: The biggest advantage of the concept-based system is that it operates from the perspective of the most critical player on offense: the quarterback. In other systems, even if the underlying principles are the exact same, the play and its name might be very different. Rather than juggling all this information in real time, an Erhardt-Perkins quarterback only has to read a given arrangement of receivers. “You can cut down on the plays and get different looks from your formations and who’s in them. It’s easier for the players to learn. It’s easier for the quarterback to learn,” former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis said back in 2000. “You get different looks without changing his reads. You don’t need an open-ended number of plays.”

Considering the youth at the quarterback position, it makes perfect sense that Saban would want a more simplified scheme. The bulk of his infamous “arse-chewings” of Kiffin were typically following mistakes that were at least partially attributable to trying to play at a faster pace or cute play-calling. In terms of style, expect the 2017 offense to look much more like the 2012 unit than 2016.

This isn’t to say that the scheme will be vanilla and boring. There is plenty of room for trick plays, and the athleticism at the QB position should help to extend plays and push the ball down the field. Up front, New England is primarily a “power” blocking team that mixes in a few inside and outside zone runs as opposed to the virtually exclusive zone blocking seen in Tuscaloosa over the past few seasons.

Of course, zone blocking allows the use of the QB read option and is a better fit with the RPOs that are heavily used in college due to the relaxed ineligible receiver rules. With the dual threat at QB, one has to imagine that there will be a place for these concepts.

For better or worse, Saban has his man. Daboll and Co-OC Mike Locksley have about a month to get a scheme together for spring practice. Their respective backgrounds would suggest that Locksley is likely to coach the quarterbacks while Daboll handles the WRs, but that will obviously be Saban’s call. In any event, they will have the best offensive skill talent in the country at their disposal. Let’s hope they can find a way to maximize it.

Welcome to Tuscaloosa, Brian.

Roll Tide.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 8:43 am to
I like what I just read.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30588 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 9:07 am to
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Same offense made Matt Cassell a millionaire and is about make Jimmy Garroppolo one too.

It'd be nice to have a Tom Brady, but it isn't required.

Weren't the Patriots 3-1 without Brady last season?
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 9:22 am to
BB was confident enough to promote him to OC of the Pats should their current OC get a HC gig. Works for me.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16502 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 9:29 am to
this tickles my fancy
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 1:57 pm to
Half of the SEC Rant page-1 threads are by other teams' fans trolling and trying to throw shade on Bama's offensive coaching changes.

I think they're more scared of the yet-to-be-seen results being good than we are of them being bad.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 6:48 am
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
3756 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 9:43 pm to
Why would Daboll leave the NFL for college?
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