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Saban Monday Press Conference
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:00 pm
Lots of telling things in this press conference. Tell me your thoughts but he kind of spills the beans on the defense.
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:16 pm to CrimsonBoz
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but he kind of spills the beans on the defense.
What was your take? I listened to the whole thing while driving but didnt hear anything particularly enlightening in my opinion.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:25 pm to bodask42
Sounded to me like he said some guys are making individual mental errors and those errors get compounded and the whole thing falls apart. Guys are making wrong reads, not watching the right keys, and missing tackles. Doesn't matter if you have 10 guys doing their job, the 1 guy who isn't can ruin it for everyone.
Also, we weren't able to disguise what we were doing well enough, so Ole Miss was always one step ahead on their play calls.
Basically what I took away from the press conference is that Golding is not getting fired any time soon and the players need to play more relaxed and focus on their assignments.
Also, we weren't able to disguise what we were doing well enough, so Ole Miss was always one step ahead on their play calls.
Basically what I took away from the press conference is that Golding is not getting fired any time soon and the players need to play more relaxed and focus on their assignments.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:32 pm to CrimsonBoz
Well first thing I notice was that coach’s hair looks great. So thick and full and dark.
Secondly, and I have seen this for a while now, he knows that he is behind the 8 ball defensively. We lost a bunch of guys from 2017, and then had a recruiting miss year. We are constantly having to put freshmen in to play as well as guys who just aren’t up to standard, like Daniel Wright. Inexperience is still killing us. Thus, he knows that he has to play good-cop with the defense right now. He simply cannot crush their confidence. He even talked about confidence in the interview. This is why we don’t see butt chewing sand guys getting jerked out of the game. The last thing we need is a defense that plays even more scared.
It is a very difficult situation on defense right now.
Secondly, and I have seen this for a while now, he knows that he is behind the 8 ball defensively. We lost a bunch of guys from 2017, and then had a recruiting miss year. We are constantly having to put freshmen in to play as well as guys who just aren’t up to standard, like Daniel Wright. Inexperience is still killing us. Thus, he knows that he has to play good-cop with the defense right now. He simply cannot crush their confidence. He even talked about confidence in the interview. This is why we don’t see butt chewing sand guys getting jerked out of the game. The last thing we need is a defense that plays even more scared.
It is a very difficult situation on defense right now.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:32 pm to bodask42
Our friend Sl0thstronautEsq basically nailed it.
Calls come in, someone doesn’t execute the call, defense struggles.
1 error per player is a lot of yards.
Saban makes a good point. Let’s see how we bounce back.
Calls come in, someone doesn’t execute the call, defense struggles.
1 error per player is a lot of yards.
Saban makes a good point. Let’s see how we bounce back.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:45 pm to CrimsonBoz
He also brought up another point saying that they weren't able to do as many one-on-one, seven-on-seven, or tackling drills this off-season due to the pandemic. The offense was still able to practice because they could run their practices against air. The defense needed to be matched up against people and they couldn't do that as much due to the Covid restrictions. People are underestimating the impact Covid had on the chemistry of our defense and you're seeing this all over the SEC. Georgia, for whatever reason, seems to be the only exception right now.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:45 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Calls come in, someone doesn’t execute the call, defense struggles.
1 error per player is a lot of yards.
We are seeing 2-4 guys make mistakes on damn near every defensive snap though. I'm not saying Saban is wrong, but one guy making a mistake doesn't necessarily kill you unless that mistake results in no defense rather than poor defense. Offenses aren't perfect either and don't always take advantage of defensive weaknesses or mistakes. If you constantly have one or two linebackers and a couple of DBs completely out of position no offense will let you get away with it though. That's what really concerns me about these guys. Wright may be far and away the biggest frick up of the bunch, but he's not the only frick up either.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:46 pm to CrimsonBoz
Going to be honest.. sounded to me like he is covering for Golding.. Lets see how we bounce back.. if we don't and a change isn't made. I will start to even question Saban on this one.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:49 pm to BamaBo7
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Going to be honest.. sounded to me like he is covering for Golding
I think you just want Golding fired and you're letting that cloud your thinking. Saban has had no problem reassigning or getting rid of assistants who are failing to pass muster in the past. I don't know if Golding is the #1 problem or not, but there were multiple plays on Saturday night where we had multiple guys in position to take down the ball carrier. And almost to a play, Ole Miss was able to gain positive yardage due to poor tackling. That's not on Golding. That's on the players.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:53 pm to RollTide1987
Maybe so.. I guess its just the D coach in me. The lack of ability to adjust and not having players prepared to be in the right spots just drive me crazy. Its my job as a coach to make sure those guys are ready to play and know the assignments. Sure mistakes happen..but not on every play. Our guys look completely lost to me. At some point it has to go back to the coach. I agree the miss tackles are on the players.. but busted play after busted play shouldn't happen. They had guys wide-open all night and constant mis matches. It was crazy.. that many busted plays should never happen. It really should only be a few a game.. not a few each drive..3rd and 26.. 3rd and 18 ..3rd and 12 it just kept going
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:53 pm to RollTide1987
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Georgia, for whatever reason, seems to be the only exception right now.
They haven’t exactly played a great offense either. It will be interesting to see how they look this week.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:58 pm to RollTide1987
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I think you just want Golding fired and you're letting that cloud your thinking.
I don't believe I was Golding's biggest advocate on here last year, but I was pretty vocal in my belief that he could do the job -- he was just hamstrung and snakebit by youth and inexperience.
Those excuses are gone this year, in my opinion. We have a deep and experienced (for the most part) roster on the defensive side of the ball. We've got players who have two and three years in his defensive system. Despite that, we're still seeing the same issues from last year -- lack of communication or understanding of the play call, busted assignments, and a recurring inability to account for the back or tight end on pass plays.
I want Golding to be successful, but I'm a lot less hopeful about that than I was at the beginning of the season, or even after the Missouri game. At least then we were flying around and hitting people.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:59 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Calls come in, someone doesn’t execute the call, defense struggles.
I guess the problem I have with this explanation is that we have several players just before the snap trying to figure out what they're supposed to do. When you have several players with the same issue, then maybe it is coaching.
To be honest, I just think Saban has a soft spot when it comes to Golding and he just isn't going to be critical of him in public.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 2:14 pm to RollTide1987
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I think you just want Golding fired and you're letting that cloud your thinking. Saban has had no problem reassigning or getting rid of assistants who are failing to pass muster in the past. I don't know if Golding is the #1 problem or not, but there were multiple plays on Saturday night where we had multiple guys in position to take down the ball carrier. And almost to a play, Ole Miss was able to gain positive yardage due to poor tackling. That's not on Golding. That's on the players.
Well said!! I’m not as huge a Golding fans as I previously was, but he does not deserve all the blame here.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 2:34 pm to BamaFan107
An example of what is going on. On the first drive, the Ole Miss QB faked the ball to the running back on the right side, then he turned and threw the ball to the streaking TE uncovered on the left side. The reason he was open was because Harris #8 the opposite side LB from where the fake was stepped towards that fake instead of running with the TE. Quite frankly he has to trust that the DL or Moses makes that tackle and ignore the fake because even if they hand it off its not his primary responsablity to make that tackle anyway. Plays like that all over the place Saturday.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:00 pm to amders44
I think you look at things through crimson colored glasses. I don't mean that in Alabama can do no wrong, but that other teams can do no right. If one of our recievers gets open and scores ut was a great call by Sark, not a bad play by the defense. Opposite here is that no one is giving Kiffen any respect. He is all elite play caller especially when it comes to fooling a defense, so i don't think we should kill Golding because a sophomore bit on a fake. I don't think anyone really thought Golding was going to it scheme Kiffen and it would come down to the athletes making plays to offset the scheme. We missed tackles and had poor communication.
I am an armchair qb at best, but it appears the players are told what position to get in from a coach on the sideline based on what the offense shows. It looked like Kiffen showed one thing, let the defense get set, then ran the exact opposite causing consistent confusion. Then he would lull the coaches into thinking they had time to look at the play, and go tempo catching our players still looking at the sidelines. That is why i thought we were so out of sorts. It was embarrassing to watch, and i was really worried when we didn't simplify the defense. But thinking about it, ole miss ran a simple defense and our offense destroyed them. Kiffen would probably have had a field day with a simple defense. Plus Matt Corral once again had the proverbial game of his life against us, hitting stupid throws.
I am an armchair qb at best, but it appears the players are told what position to get in from a coach on the sideline based on what the offense shows. It looked like Kiffen showed one thing, let the defense get set, then ran the exact opposite causing consistent confusion. Then he would lull the coaches into thinking they had time to look at the play, and go tempo catching our players still looking at the sidelines. That is why i thought we were so out of sorts. It was embarrassing to watch, and i was really worried when we didn't simplify the defense. But thinking about it, ole miss ran a simple defense and our offense destroyed them. Kiffen would probably have had a field day with a simple defense. Plus Matt Corral once again had the proverbial game of his life against us, hitting stupid throws.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:03 pm to Remiden
Did you watch last year’s games and all 3 so far this year?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:18 pm to C W
I guess what Saban was saying that and I think he spoke in general of term how many players made mistakes, but if 10 players got assignment right, 1 blew it. Or Someone relayed wrong assignment to secondary. For example,
I noticed Wright was too far back when he tried to intercept the pass. Did he get wrong signal ? did he make indivdiual mistake?
I noticed Wright was too far back when he tried to intercept the pass. Did he get wrong signal ? did he make indivdiual mistake?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:36 pm to CrimsonBoz
To be honest that did not make me feel better at all. What I heard were reasons we aren't playing well, and other than "hope we fix it" there don't seem to be any answers. The reasons are the same reasons we've seen and heard for 15 games now.
After watching a full year of no improvement last year, I'm not sure I have much confidence in "fixing it". Kiffin and Ole Miss were definitely an awful matchup for us and our faults, but we're going to play other teams like that with more skill down the line if we want to reach our goals.
Love to be wrong, though.
After watching a full year of no improvement last year, I'm not sure I have much confidence in "fixing it". Kiffin and Ole Miss were definitely an awful matchup for us and our faults, but we're going to play other teams like that with more skill down the line if we want to reach our goals.
Love to be wrong, though.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 3:42 pm to CrimsonBoz
Yep, that’s bullshite
Our defense has been straight up trash ever since Pruitt left, and it’s always the player’s fault. Apparently we’ve had bad players for 3 years even though we recruit better than anyone.
How is it that Clemson, OSU, and Georgia can have a stout defense every year, and we can’t?
We used to, before Golding showed up.
This is ALL on Golding. Period. We have a top 5 defense in terms of talent/experience. The lack of production comes from scheme/playcalling/philosophy.
Our defense never attacks. Every play we’re on our heels. No penetration - ever. Mush rush every single play. Our defense gets pushed backwards and tries to tackle guys as they run past us.
Again, this isn’t just about the last game. This has been our defense since 2018. This is just the first season where there aren’t any excuses to fall back on.
Golding needs to go - period. We’ve got guys on our staff right now that would do a better job. This guy is trash, and it’s time Saban cut his losses, and admit that he misjudged this guy. He’s too soft, and our defense has taken on his personality
Our defense has been straight up trash ever since Pruitt left, and it’s always the player’s fault. Apparently we’ve had bad players for 3 years even though we recruit better than anyone.
How is it that Clemson, OSU, and Georgia can have a stout defense every year, and we can’t?
We used to, before Golding showed up.
This is ALL on Golding. Period. We have a top 5 defense in terms of talent/experience. The lack of production comes from scheme/playcalling/philosophy.
Our defense never attacks. Every play we’re on our heels. No penetration - ever. Mush rush every single play. Our defense gets pushed backwards and tries to tackle guys as they run past us.
Again, this isn’t just about the last game. This has been our defense since 2018. This is just the first season where there aren’t any excuses to fall back on.
Golding needs to go - period. We’ve got guys on our staff right now that would do a better job. This guy is trash, and it’s time Saban cut his losses, and admit that he misjudged this guy. He’s too soft, and our defense has taken on his personality
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