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re: Relentless anti Mac Jones campaign under way in the media
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:03 am to bamatide07
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:03 am to bamatide07
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What reasons are those ?
I didn’t say they were good reasons. He doesn’t fit the prototype of big athletic QB with a really strong arm. Neither Mayfield nor Murray were big either but they had the other two down. He also played for Bama, so just like with the RBs, people assume his success is because of the supporting cast.
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I guess the pocket passer with limited mobility is the Scarlett letter.
That’s basically why. People have become so used to seeing dual threat guys, pocket passers are looked at as being less impressive. Which is weird because while all the younger top QBs are pretty mobile, some of the older QBs that have dominated the last decade have been pocket passers.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 11:05 am
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:03 am to Carlton
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ight back where we started. Still Jay never writes his rhymes so he is clearly better musically than Mozart, when you take out both their obvious agendas. I think most media have been saying recently In My Lifetime Vol 1 is clearly better than anything Mozart did and I think Blueprint or Reasonable Doubt are his best albums. I don't agree about that but we all know the media has an agenda right now. It is why Jay got in to the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame over Mozart this year.
Lol. Good one. You had me going for a second.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:04 am to Carlton
Switching gears to a related topic. I see Tua getting ripped by the media after one year in the league during a pandemic coming off a major injury. Not sure where to go from here. It's almost as if the media is hoping both of these guys fail.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:09 am to 1BamaRTR
I said it earlier in the thread that one of the reasons Tom Brady has played so long is because he's a pocket passer that gets the ball out fast. Guys like Mahomes and Cam are awesome to watch but are more prone to injury because they run a lot. Aaron Rodgers is athletic but he really uses that ability more to buy time in the pocket than to actually run like Lamar.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:13 am to bamatide07
Because a lot of people are absolutely certain Bama QBs only look good because of the supporting cast. They don’t want to be proven wrong there. Everyone here has seen the “they only threw to wide open receivers under no pressure” narrative countless times for both Tua and Mac.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:19 am to bamatide07
Miami has a lot of old New England people on staff so the inside scoop at least the truth, if you want to hear it is up here. I think it has to with even being in the same locker room with Mac and how he looks *wink*. They make Tua look bad who started over Mac, they make Mac look bad. The same will happen to Hurts in Philly they just hated Carson Wentz for obvious reasons but they are willing to put up with Hurts to get him out. They will draft D'Eriq King a move on from Hurts to make Mac look bad. It is less about Tua and more about getting to Mac for obvious reasons.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:19 am to bamatide07
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Mahomes and Cam are awesome to watch but are more prone to injury because they run a lot. Aaron Rodgers is athletic
I agree with your point but Mahomes’s playing style is far closer to Rodgers then it is to Cam. You should replace Mahomes with Lamar Jackson. Both Rodgers and Mahomes average about 40-60 rushing attempts a season.
Even then Brady and Brees’s playing styles are safer compared to Rodgers or Mahomes because they don’t / didn’t hold onto the ball too long. Both Rodgers and Mahomes are big passers but are prone to scrambling around in the backfield too much which has led to some injuries. Rodgers has missed several games in a season twice and both came on plays he was running around to try to extend the play. Luck was another guy who did this.
I think Vick is the perfect example of dual threat guys getting overrated. He was an awful passer but people mostly remember the splashy electric runs he had.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:20 am to RiverCityTider
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Lol. Good one. You had me going for a second.
Don't close your eyes. Jay was just put in Mozart not even considered.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:30 am to 1BamaRTR
Which is insane considering other top level quarterbacks from major programs would fit that mold. Look at any of the Oklahoma QBs over the years to Joe Burrow at LSU as just a few examples. They all had elite teams around them but the media never went after them the way they go after Tua and Mac. Sam Bradford is a great example. Great college QB who spent most of his time in the NFL on the injured list but made a ton of money. Never played a full season in the NFL because he was hurt.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 12:13 pm to bamatide07
I just want to thank everyone involved for making a great thread. Not in the uplifting and thoughtful way but more like the first time you saw a real adult film and it was gross and kind of made your stomach hurt and you thought to yourself I guess they are having fun so maybe I will try it later but with a normal person. But I am definitely not getting involved with the stuff being done in that movie. In the end I am glad some of you were willing to come, open your eyes and get some truth.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 3:22 pm to Carlton
Posted on 6/13/21 at 3:28 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Posted on 6/13/21 at 5:56 pm to bamatide07
quote:Yeah, cut the MVP.
if Lamar Jackson was a white guy, the media would be literally yelling for him to be cut or traded and calling him a bust.
quote:Finally. His supporting cast has been average at best.
The Ravens have stacked receiving talent around him
Also, sure, he’s not the best passer. His dual threat ability makes that not matter, though.
quote:Well, he’s not that good. And his supporting cast as of late has been really, really good.
Kirk Cousins
Posted on 6/13/21 at 5:57 pm to bamatide07
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Mitchell Trubisky is basically the white Lamar Jackson
Posted on 6/13/21 at 6:03 pm to TTsTowel
At the end of the day, NE has four QB on roster.
I suspect Jarrett Stidham will be on the outside looking in if they cut down to three. Brian Hoyer is essentially a coach on the field, so he will likely be kept. Cam Newton likely starts and performs better than last year with his improved health and improved supporting cast. Mac Jones sits in the QB2 spot until he’s ready.
I read that Stidham was taking QB1 snaps over Jones with Newton out and I really didn’t understand that.
I suspect Jarrett Stidham will be on the outside looking in if they cut down to three. Brian Hoyer is essentially a coach on the field, so he will likely be kept. Cam Newton likely starts and performs better than last year with his improved health and improved supporting cast. Mac Jones sits in the QB2 spot until he’s ready.
I read that Stidham was taking QB1 snaps over Jones with Newton out and I really didn’t understand that.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 8:24 pm to TTsTowel
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Yeah, cut the MVP.
You can tell which people don’t actually watch the NFL.
Those that disagree have yet to explain to me why Trevor Lawrence was/is treated as the greatest prospect ever if the NFL has a vendetta against white QBs. They can’t fathom there are other reasons why certain QBs get more hate and others more love.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 8:27 pm to TTsTowel
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I read that Stidham was taking QB1 snaps over Jones with Newton out and I really didn’t understand that.
Jones was also limited with an ankle injury. But Stidham seems to be one of those guys that plays well in practice and preseason but sucks during actual game time. Same thing happened last year. Great spring and preseason yet was benched for Hoyer when he came in after Newton went down.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:04 am to Carlton
what in god's holy name are those links supposed to mean?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:31 am to antibarner
Media aren't going to affect his pass blocking or his talent.
Time to put up or shut up. For Tua, Hurts, and MAC.
Time to put up or shut up. For Tua, Hurts, and MAC.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:46 am to Sneaky__Sally
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what in god's holy name are those links supposed to mean?
It means he has a Q sticker on the back of his Chevy.
This whole thread is just a fricking embarrassment.
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 10:47 am
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