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RBR : Graphing the Tide vs Texas A&M

Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:59 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:59 am
They do a good job with these. Really enjoy them.

RBR : Graphing the Tide vs Texas A&M

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The season opener vs Florida State is a good point of reference here: by the end, Alabama looked great on the scoreboard (all things considered), and won by 3 possessions. However, they turned in worse efficiency numbers than Florida State (29% to their 39%), in a game that almost mirrors this “narrow victory” over Texas A&M. So which is the better win? Certainly, FSU’s tough defense and high ranking (at that point in the season) make it the more notable win—and you’ve gotta like that scoreboard result—but one could argue that the Tide beat these Aggies more soundly.


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Besides some explosive plays here and there, Alabama had the Aggies pretty well handled until some slippage (and, frankly, wackiness with the 4th down scrambles and the refs) in the 4th quarter. Jalen Hurts and the offense started and ended the game a bit slow, but still posted numbers that would normally get you a win in an SEC (non-shootout) game. They put up explosive plays in each quarter (two Damien Harris runs, 1 Jalen Hurts run, and 3 Jalen Hurts passes), and had successful passes to 4 different receivers (Calvin Ridley, Jerry Jeudy, Bo Scarbrough, and Henry Ruggs III, plus the successful target to Robert Foster where the defensive back intentionally held him to prevent the TD). All in all, not so bad, given some of the commentary out of Gumpville over the weekend.

As for the Ags, 8 of their 22 total successful plays came in the 4th quarter, and 3 of their total successful plays were defensive penalties (some iffy) on 3rd and longs.


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The efficiency (aka, success rate) trends are odd, though: the Aggies seemed to key in on the run throughout the second half, essentially daring Jalen Hurts to beat them with his arm. And, if you look closely... he apparently did! That cumulative passing success rate climbed through most of the second half and ended up just better than the rushing success rate. Given, when Jalen took off it was sometimes tallied as a rushing attempt, but for true sacks I count those as passing plays.


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The Texas A&M offense managed to sprinkle in successful passes throughout the game (often just when they needed it, I’ll add), and even had some occasional success on the ground, but that rushing performance dragged them into well below league-average efficiency rates. Interestingly, the 4th quarter was the Aggies’ worst passing performance until right at the very end, where they momentarily struck gold with 4 successful plays in a row (their first and only sequence >2 all night).


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Parting Thoughts
I’ll revisit the comparison from the beginning of the article: when we look at efficiencies, the Florida State game was much more of a contest than the scoreboard indicated; but this game vs. Texas A&M was the opposite. Yes, it technically came down to a one-possession game and a recovered onside kick to seal the deal, but the Aggies had to ride in on a weird sequence of events (weird flags, Bama drops, barely-catches) to make it even close. With a few things ironed out, a performance like this from the Crimson Tide should result in a win against most opponents. Roll Tide.
Posted by Bamafan24
Huntsville
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:27 am to
I love they mention the refs lol
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:35 am to
Thanks for posting, George.


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It wasn’t that bad!


Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:47 am to
They validate what several people said after taking the emotions out. It was just a clunky, spit & sputter game that left everyone feeling unsatisfied because we know we're better.

We seem to forget that we have one or two of these every year. 10-0 @LSU last season, 19-14 vs Tennessee in 2015, 14-13 @Arkansas in 2014.

The good news is that we usually follow them up by eviscerating the next opponent.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:50 am to
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It was just a clunky, spit & sputter game that left everyone feeling unsatisfied because we know we're better.


Yep - and it was even better than those. A&M needed quite the near impossible string of events to even get to where they did : Alabama turnover, multiple 3rd and long conversions, etc. Credit them for doing it, but overall it easily could have been a 27-6 game or 34-6 game.

I really have no concerns from it at all moving forward. Well, no additional concerns.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:02 pm to
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I really have no concerns from it at all moving forward. Well, no additional concerns.


The number of people that limped off concerns me. We're getting really, really thin - but other than that yeah, if Robert Foster doesn't have the series from hell it probably ends up close to the spread. People melted to the point of earning the banhammer for really no reason at all.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:03 pm to
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The number of people that limped off concerns me. We're getting really, really thin - but other than that yeah, if Robert Foster doesn't have the series from hell it probably ends up close to the spread. People melted to the point of earning the banhammer for really no reason at all.


Agree, agree. I meant executional concerns.

But yea, we need to get through the next 2 weeks unscathed and get the bye week.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16968 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:09 pm to
I’ll just drop this here, I asked one of our former OL to give his thoughts on their play when he had time. He sent this:

“Would like for those frustrated with jalen to watch these 2 plays in a row and make suggestions on what else he could do on both plays. This is a good example of how bad the pass pro was Sat night. There are two things that have to happen for a pocket to be created in pass pro. The C's and OGs are responsible for the depth of the pocket. the OT's are responsible for the width. Most of the time the width of the pocket is what breaks down first (best pass rushers vs OT's) and if the interior of the OL has created the depth of the pocket the QB can step up and avoid the outside rush.

On both of these plays you will see Jalen be forced to step up and there is nowhere to step up to.

Fast forward to the 1:03:00 mark
LINK
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
52611 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:27 pm to
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On both of these plays you will see Jalen be forced to step up and there is nowhere to step up to.

Fast forward to the 1:03:00 mark
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That first play, he maybe could have stepped up while still looking downfield, however, he still probably would gotten lit up from behind and sacked. I don't know what the coverage situation was downfield either. I have no problem with him avoiding a tfl right there.

The second play is a great example of there being no pocket to step up into.
Posted by CrimsonFlounder
Gulf Coast
Member since Feb 2011
1057 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:41 pm to
This type of game happens every year. A team that is not as talented manages to "scare" Alabama. It usually serves as motivation and the team refocuses. I almost feel sorry for the swine on Saturday.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16968 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 7:35 pm to
Another article from SDS on Hurts

LINK /
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 7:36 pm
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
1647 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:55 am to
Great link. My impression is that all these 5 star receivers are not helping him very much....
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16968 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:22 am to
That’s kind of what I got from it, watch every throw damn near all of them are catchable.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:13 am to
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Another article from SDS on Hurts

Good article
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