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Our next head coach

Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:59 pm
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:59 pm
CNS is the GOAT and I hope he’s here for many more years. Having said that, as an old fart Bama fan who’s closing in on a half century of watching the Tide, I think I’ve seen that it’s time to change our basic philosophy. College football has evolved to the point where our longtime DNA of being defensive minded first is going the way of the dinosaur. Oh, defense still wins championships, but nowadays, that statement needs to be amended to add “but only if you have an explosive offense too.”

Some guys like Dabo and Lincoln Riley and even sleazy Urban Meyer have figured it out. The next coach needs to be from an offensive background, preferably an OC who is the mastermind behind one of the high octane attacks you see throughout college football. The rules have been skewed to favor offense to the point that a team like 1992 Alabama that was the definition of mediocre, conservative offense could not win the title in today’s world.
The great coaches still understand there must be balance and that the defense must be good, good enough to take over the game occasionally. But you can’t rest on even the best defenses today to contend for championships. Your offense must be your bellcow. I’m not sure I like the change but it is what it is. Saban has recognized it himself and has abandoned his old run first pro style in favor of more and more explosive attacks.

Our next coach needs to be a guy that still believes in solid defense but one that puts offense first.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72134 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 9:08 pm to
Worry about it in 10 years
Posted by LATIDER
Loxley , Al
Member since Apr 2013
1196 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 9:11 pm to
For Gods sake. Not another Saban gone thread....
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 9:21 pm to
This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 9:27 pm
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18302 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 9:25 pm to
Lincoln Riley may be Bama's HC by then.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4298 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Our next coach needs to be a guy that still believes in solid defense but one that puts offense first.


I think he needs to be someone who can recruit elite players at all positions, hire good assistants, and have strong enough leadership skills to keep the program steady.

Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1562 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 10:20 pm to
When that day comes I’m sure CNS will have someone he’ll recommend.

Everyone will be on the Dabo train. Don’t get me wrong I like the man. Brent Venables maybe a star in the making though.
This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 10:40 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22474 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 10:48 pm to
Pretty sure the offseason officially ended last Saturday.


Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5680 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 11:30 pm to
Saban will be at Bama between 2022-2026. It'll put him at 15 to 20 years at Bama.

Lincoln Riley will be coaching in the the NFL next year.

Sentiment among Bama's decision-makers has soured about Dabo. And I don't think Bama fans want that type of program. A goofy good ole boy after years of having a CEO-like coach.

But it doesn't matter, Saban will name his predecessor. It'll be Cristobal. He's about to win 3-4 Pac 12 Championships in a row. He's the most Saban-like.

But the Saban tree is bigger than you think.

This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:08 am to
Watch us end up with freaking Butch Jones as HC. ??
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6457 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:20 am to
quote:

defense

Some guys like Dabo and Lincoln Riley and even sleazy Urban Meyer have figured it out


Maybe he figured it out this summer but Oklahoma was like 114 of 129 teams in total defense last year.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:45 am to
Yes they were but instead of ignoring the problem like Bob Stoops did (a defensive guy, mind you WTF?), Riley fired longtime DC Mike Stoops and brought in Alex Grinch to fix the defense. The same Alex Grinch that had been a defensive assistant for Urban Meyer (offensive guy) and who Mike Leech (another offensive guy) had hired to turn around Washington State’s abysmal defense which he did. Give Grinch another season or two and Oklahoma will be top 20 defensively and a sack of hell to deal with.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4356 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 7:31 am to
Good lord. You won't let this one go
Posted by eric4UA08
Member since Nov 2008
2016 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Sentiment among Bama's decision-makers has soured about Dabo. And I don't think Bama fans want that type of program. A goofy good ole boy after years of having a CEO-like coach.


People always say this, but if Bama tries to hire a coach exactly like CNS after he’s gone, we are gonna get disappointed. I think it would actually HELP to go an alternate direction. With that said, this is irrelevant for, at minimum, 5-7 more years.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Good lord. You won't let this one go


Why are people so afraid to discuss the inevitable? Jesus Christ, some of you are complete pansies about this.

Grandma is gonna one day die and Saban will one day retire. It's OK to talk about the future.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:37 am to
Furthermore, the last thing you want is Saban picking his successor. That's how we ended up with a generation of famine bending it over for Bear's former players.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13907 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:51 am to
Probably hasn't been discussed much but the coach Frans of the world didn't like the rock star status that goes with this job. If we do our due-diligence we select a winner that loves, I mean, loves, the limelight. Like coach Saban.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22474 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Why are people so afraid to discuss the inevitable? Jesus Christ, some of you are complete pansies about this.

Grandma is gonna one day die and Saban will one day retire. It's OK to talk about the future.


Because it's football season and I prefer to enjoy the now.

Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
2864 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:59 am to
Some absolutely abysmal takes in the OP.

How many NCs have come out of the Hal Mumme coaching tree?

What is RichRod up to these days? What was Kliff Kingsbury's record with Mahomes as his college QB?

At the end of the day we need to attract the best assistants, have the best facilities/campus environment, recruit the best players, and have the best development process for players to reach their potential.

That's why having a CEO like Saban has been so successful. Offensive/defensive philosophies shift and change with the times. If you hang your hat on something like the Air Raid, or the read-option, or the RPO, you'll eventually get left in the dust.
Posted by LBU Bama
Member since Jul 2019
534 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:31 pm to
Saban will be here 8 more years. He'll hang it up at 75. There will be no decline either...

Look at Coach K at Duke. He's 73 and still rolling. He just pulled in the best recruiting class of all time last year with Zion and co. These kids want to play for a living legend.

Saban wants 300 wins(obviously he wants more titles too). There's only a few head coaches that are in that 300 win club and he wants to join. At the rate he's winning he should hit 300 career wins by the age of 75.
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