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JustGetItRight
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re: OT - Alabama Politics - Just watched Atticus v. The Architect
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So was Riley as dirty as they made him appear?


Riley’s administration was pretty scandal free. Where Riley gets more than a little shait on his shoes is after he left office.

He became a lobbyist, and to be a successful lobbyist in either Montgomery or DC you have to at least bend but in reality totally break the rules. He appears to be staying just close enough to the line that he’s been more useful as a witness than as a target. I guess that is something but I lost a lot of respect for him because of it.

That is what happened in Hubbard. There was a particular poignant e-mail from Riley to Hubbard where in the midst of the chain, Riley straight out tells Hubbard “Mike, you can be Governor or you can be rich. I’m not sure you can be both.” It was good advice but Hubbard decided to try and be both anyhow.


The Spleen
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re: OT - Alabama Politics - Just watched Atticus v. The Architect
If you don’t think there is a different judicial system for wealthy, connected people, keep in mind it has been around 3 years since Hubbard was convicted by a jury of his peers for at least a dozen felonies and has been a free man since that time.

It’s been around a year, at least, since the AL Supreme Court heard arguments in his case and they still have yet to issue an opinion.


imjustafatkid
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re: OT - Alabama Politics - Just watched Atticus v. The Architect
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It’s been around a year, at least, since the AL Supreme Court heard arguments in his case and they still have yet to issue an opinion.


That's not true. They reversed 5 convictions and upheld 6 in April, and Hubbard's team asked for a rehearing. Can't imagine what has happened that could have possibly caused the rehearing to take longer than typical. It's not like the whole world shut down or anything.


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JustGetItRight
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re: OT - Alabama Politics - Just watched Atticus v. The Architect
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If you don’t think there is a different judicial system for wealthy, connected people, keep in mind it has been around 3 years since Hubbard was convicted by a jury of his peers for at least a dozen felonies and has been a free man since that time.

It’s been around a year, at least, since the AL Supreme Court heard arguments in his case and they still have yet to issue an opinion.




As fat kid says, the court has ruled and Hubbard is a convicted felon barring federal court intervention.

Not sure why you bring the wealthy, connected argument. Yes people with that advantage can mount a more vigorous defense. Don was connected and at the time Scrushy was wealthy. They had those advantages.

Hubbard was convicted in 2016. I’d prefer he already be serving his sentence but unfortunately that kind of delay was common in Alabama state court white collar cases before covid made the courts take 2020 off. Scrushy/Seigleman was a federal prosecution. Those run on a much tighter. Even so, while Siegleman spent a brief bit of time behind bars before being released on an appeal bond. Once out, it was five years before those appeals ran their course and he had to serve the bulk of his sentence.


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JustGetItRight
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re: OT - Alabama Politics - Just watched Atticus v. The Architect
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He should have learned from Blagojevich that shite will get you locked up.


You have it backwards. Blago should have learned from Don.

Siegleman was convicted in 2006. Blago sold Obama’s vacant senate seat in 2008.


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paperwasp
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re: OT - Alabama Politics - Just watched Atticus v. The Architect
Happening today:
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The Alabama Supreme Court today denied a request by former Alabama House Speaker Mike Hubbard for a rehearing in his ethics case.

In April, the court ruled on Hubbard’s appeal, upholding six of the felony ethics charges against Hubbard, who was found guilty by a Lee County jury in 2016. The justices overturned five other convictions.

This morning, the court announced the decision to deny the request for a rehearing. It was a 6-1 decision.

Hubbard has remained free on bond pending his appeals.


Evolved Simian
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re: OT - Alabama Politics - Just watched Atticus v. The Architect
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The Alabama Supreme Court today denied a request by former Alabama House Speaker Mike Hubbard for a rehearing in his ethics case.



So, will we finally get to see some jail time for Hubbard? He's probably one of the least ethical people ever to hold office in Alabama, and that's saying a lot.


JustGetItRight
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re: OT - Alabama Politics - Just watched Atticus v. The Architect
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So, will we finally get to see some jail time for Hubbard?


He has 15 days to report to the county jail prior to being transferred to the department of corrections.


JustGetItRight
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re: OT - Alabama Politics - Just watched Atticus v. The Architect
Mike Hubbard reported to jail today. He will be held in the Lee County Jail until transferred to the Alabama Department of Corrections.


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