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OK, So How Do We Fix It?

Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:07 pm
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:07 pm
Defense. Fire Golding, sure. But who do we go after? No one on this staff. Anyone we get will be like Golding was at the beginning of the year. Unknown. Firing Golding (and I'm all for it) is not the sudden cure for this team. And not only will we be starting all over again we also take another hit in recruiting. We need to bite the bullet and throw the bank at a proven DC and offer them HC money in my opinion. But even then, who?

Special Teams. I still don't understand how you have too many men on the field for a punt return. Not only is that on the coaches but as a player how do you mess that up? If you're not on the punt team get off the field. But aside from that our kickers are killing us. This is not a kicker issue. I personally watched Adam Griffith kick 40 and 50 yarders in high school. Routinely. All of a sudden he comes to Bama and he misses everything. The grad transfer that hadn't missed until he came to us. Our kicker now who was the #1 kicker in the nation all of a sudden starts kicking the ground. Theres a pattern there.

No Swag Where'd it go? Where are the alphas? Name one player on this team that could "buck up" to McClain, Collins, Barron, etc. I still see Diggs getting dragged 8 yards for a 1st down against LSU. Where are the head hunters? Are we just not recruiting these guys anymore? Are we missing out of them? Is it a coaching philosophy that changed? What happened to making his arse quit? Where is Barrett Jones and McCarron going at it in the 4th quarter of the BCS title game up 28 points because they demanded perfection the entire game? Where the hell did Alabama football go?


I'm not the fire Saban and the decline has started crowd. I lived through the Shula years and remember when I would have killed for a season like this. But I also see this team for what it is and understand we've progressed from those teams. The one thing that stands out to me that Saban himself has said he's tried to calm down some in the past few years. Not get so heated. I think by doing that he has started to demand less. If it's intentional or not I don't know but that's my opinion. Kiffin was a successful coach but Saban stayed on his arse. Daboll, albeit not a great coach, but Saban stayed on his arse. How many times have we seen Saban on Golding's arse? I can't think of any. As a matter of fact tonight was one of the few nights I saw him chewing coaches asses and it took a game losing penalty on the last play to bring it out.

Anyone who says fire Saban or that it's time to move on is a complete fricking idiot and I take no pause in saying that. However we need some changes (and some better luck with injuries) but realistically what are they?

Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12214 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:11 pm to
Starts at DL recruiting. Bama doesn't have the players there. Too many misses on DL recruiting from 15-18.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:12 pm to
Well phrased and stated

And I don't know the answer. Hopefully Saban does.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9408 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:13 pm to
I feel we started rectifying the DL recruiting last class even with the loss of Alfano. Lets see how we recruit the DL this class.
Posted by biggsc
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Member since Mar 2009
34209 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:15 pm to
Bring in Will Muschamp and cherry pick from Clemson
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20755 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:16 pm to
These are my two totally amateur opinions:

- Fix staff continuity
- Recruit & foster a culture that doesn’t create a “go pro ASAP” environment
- Injuries have increased at an alarming rate that can’t just be chalked up to bad luck. Figure out if there’s a fixable solution to that problem.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9408 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:17 pm to
I'm fine with losing coaches as long as we replace them with competent coaches. With that said, Golding has to go.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21668 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:18 pm to
I think the days of holding good teams under 20 points are over in college football. The offense has the advantage. You can't play ball control and expect to score enough points to beat the explosive offenses. Wait and see what happens to UGA against LSU. Look at the teams that will be in the playoffs.

The only real issue is how young our defense is after the injuries. Maybe Golding sucks too, but it's difficult to know with the hand he was dealt. Without the injuries, we make enough stops to be undefeated right now, and that's the best you can hope for.

The reality is, any defense will give up more points these days, especially if they aren't running a plodding offense. We just scored 45 points on one of the best defenses in the country, with a backup QB.

So, basically, I don't think we need big changes. It just wasn't our year. I'm not going to melt about 10-2 with two close losses to very good teams. What do people really expect?
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9408 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

- Recruit & foster a culture that doesn’t create a “go pro ASAP” environment


Nah. If you're recruiting and signing the best you will have early defections to the NFL.
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1150 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

Anyone who says fire Saban or that it's time to move on is a complete fricking idiot and I take no pause in saying that.


This Saban-coached team had 13 penalties IN ONE GAME. Saban allows ridiculous offensive play calls such as the pass play that was pick-sixed on first and goal from inside the two that should have been a Najee run. The absurd penalty on fourth down to end the game. ALL of these are on the head coach, whether directly or indirectly. We've had to tolerate YEARS of pitiful special teams play (Waddle's punt returning notwithstanding). Saban is an excellent recruiter, maybe the best ever, but his in-game coaching is far from the best.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9408 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

I think the days of holding good teams under 20 points are over in college football. The offense has the advantage. You can't play ball control and expect to score enough points to beat the explosive offenses. Wait and see what happens to UGA against LSU. Look at the teams that will be in the playoffs.

The only real issue is how young our defense is after the injuries. Maybe Golding sucks too, but it's difficult to know with the hand he was dealt. Without the injuries, we make enough stops to be undefeated right now, and that's the best you can hope for.

The reality is, any defense will give up more points these days, especially if they aren't running a plodding offense. We just scored 45 points on one of the best defenses in the country, with a backup QB.

So, basically, I don't think we need big changes. It just wasn't our year. I'm not going to melt about 10-2 with two close losses to very good teams. What do people really expect?


No. Even with the injuries we saw no improvement from game to game like we are accustomed to seeing. Plus, Dylan Moses and the other ILB went down before the season. We all should've saw some improvement in Harris, Lee, Benton, and Kaho from the Duke game to the Auburn game. We saw no marked improvement out of the ILB position.
Posted by biggsc
32.4767389, 35.5697717
Member since Mar 2009
34209 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:21 pm to
Should have won by 14
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20755 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

Nah. If you're recruiting and signing the best you will have early defections to the NFL.




Clemson’s entire DL decided to stay instead going in the first round. Meanwhile we are probably going to lose every marginal player.

I’m all for getting the best players, but if they just come for three years and just our program as a vessel to get to the NFL then it’s ultimately going to cost us.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:23 pm to
The thing is au isnt a good offensive team.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:24 pm to
quote:


No. Even with the injuries we saw no improvement from game to game like we are accustomed to seeing. Plus, Dylan Moses and the other ILB went down before the season. We all should've saw some improvement in Harris, Lee, Benton, and Kaho from the Duke game to the Auburn game. We saw no marked improvement out of the ILB position.


Exactly. There was literally no tangible improvement. The same mistakes we made against South Carolina we made against Auburn.
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:25 pm to
Clemson is a fun environment.. it’s true. I have visited there. It’s less business and more rewards.
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2448 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

Recruit & foster a culture that doesn’t create a “go pro ASAP” environment


That sounds great but any kid who is a 1st rounder needs to go. I'm all for trying to convince guys who can improve to come back but you can't tell a guy not to go when he's ready. Have to put the kid first.

quote:

I think the days of holding good teams under 20 points are over in college football


I'm still unsure about this. I agree you can't have a high powered offense and still defensively dominate teams but I think a dominate D can stop a high powered offense. You just have to have an offense that can control the clock and give your D time to breathe.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19663 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

OK, So How Do We Fix It?
don't have half the starters on the team go down with season ending injury, leaving us starting freshman everywhere?
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9408 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Clemson is a fun environment.. it’s true. I have visited there. It’s less business and more rewards.


That's all because they are in a suck arse conference. No SEC team can do what Clemson does because they will lose multiple conference games.
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:33 pm to
LSU is trying it this year.. we will see if it last. I don’t think it will either.. but we will see. Mullins at Florida is doing it too
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