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Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:28 pm to Tider95
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:28 pm to Tider95
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If that happens something went wrong elsewhere in the hiring process. I understand your reasoning, but with Sark as the hire, it is a waste to have a standalone QB coach when we could get another positonal coach on defense.
I completely disagree. Saban has talked at length about the fact that the OC can't actually spend a lot of practice time with the QBs due the necessity of him being else coordinating the offense. Additionally, if the OC is in the booth, then QBs are the only position group without its coach on the sidelines, which is crazy.
Face it, a dedicated QB coach is now a permanent position after the addition of the 10th assistant.
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:29 pm to Cobrasize
Are off-field staff allowed to talk to on-field staff on headsets from the booth?
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:36 pm to TidalSurge1
I'm not sure. They passed a rule this past season that limits the number of people that can have headsets. Stupid rule
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:39 pm to Cobrasize
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NCAA approves revised headset rule. ... Under the new rule FBS teams will be limited to 23 headsets on game days, with three designated as "listen-only" devices to be used only by individuals within 10 years of graduation or their playing eligibility.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:42 pm to Cobrasize
Yeah, I just now googled it and read about it. A few additional staff besides the HC and 10 on-field assistants can talk on headsets. So, Sark could call plays from the sidlines and someone like Butch could be his bird's-eye viewer from up the booth.
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:50 pm to TidalSurge1
Butch might be the new QB coach
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:53 pm to Cobrasize
Nah. But he's got a lot of offensive coaching experience. If he's shadowing Sark and sitting in on meetings, game planning, etc., he'd be well-prepared to be Sark's extra set of eyes up in the booth. Kiffin called plays from the sidelines.This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:56 pm to TidalSurge1
We never know what Saban has planned. If Jones stays, he will either be the QB coach or the WR coach or TE coach. It'll be interesting. Saban has shut down all of the chatter
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:01 am to Cobrasize
I don't think Butch will be an on-field coach. I think he'd be well suited to be Sark's main off-field analyst and booth eyes during games like I described. Butch isn't qualified to coach QBs.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 12:04 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:03 am to TidalSurge1
I think Coach will want him as a recruiter. The players love him. He could be the WR coach and still be the eyes for Sark in the booth or the TE coach and do the same.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:09 am to Cobrasize
He actually recruited pretty well at UT
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:10 am to Cobrasize
I don't think Saban wants Butch recruiting or in an on-field coaching role. He really isn't nearly as good of a recruiter as some seem to think. He lucked into a few big legacy recruits, but he rarely won head-to-head battles for elite recruits. He took a lot of low 4-star and 3-star players and signed large classes to get a deceptive overall class score. But the average player rating wasn't that good. A large portion of his recruits never amounted to much. His recruiting wasn't nearly as good as it appears to be at a glance.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 12:51 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:20 am to TidalSurge1
Player development may have been lacking but he came in to a dumpster fire and got respectable talent I thought . Especially some top notch DL some of which were injured or didn’t pan out
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:33 am to TidalSurge1
I don't believe Butch would turn down on the field coaching jobs to stay at Bama for an off the field job. That's just my opinion though.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:37 am to Cobrasize
According to Tim Watts, that's essentially what he did. Within two days after Butch flew up to Maryland, he decided he didn't want the on-field coaching job there, and he returned to his analyst job at Alabama.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 9:08 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:48 am to TidalSurge1
well, we shall see. If that's the case it's because Tennessee is still paying him a boatload every month
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 12:49 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:56 am to Cobrasize
Exactly, Butch can afford to take his time and be picky. I doubt Saban (or Butch) prefers him to be an on-field position coach. It doesn't make sense to pay him a position coach's salary when you can better leverage his experience in an analyst role at $35k/year, while keeping UT on the hook for nearly $200k/mo?
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 7:13 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 6:14 am to Cobrasize
200K per month until 2021. I assume those monies Butch is paid from Bama is deducted from money owed by 10RC.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 7:37 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
I’d anticipate Kool leaving or entering in another role off the field.quote:
@DLEEBAMA
Any Chance Bo Davis is added or is Kool staying on?
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
Will be on staff. May have an exotic title. Haven’t really defined all the roles yet.quote:
@ZINGER42
What role is Butch Jones?
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
Should have some clarification on that this week.quote:
@ChasidyTucker
What about DL?
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
Unless something unusual happens Sark will be the man.quote:
@thefunblog
OC finalized?
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
Unless something bizarre happens that is the plan.quote:
@DoctorCoachStew
Golding locked in as DC?
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
Should be about wrapped up.quote:
@WilliamBrunso10
Possible anymore coaches?
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
I don’t think so.quote:
@steven_roll
Any chance with Shoop or some other big name.
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
Ultimately Lake declined to be interviewed for second year in a row.
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
He is not eligible for off the field recruiting till 4/14/2019.
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
I’m not sure at this point.quote:
@RyanpSomerville
Feel good on Bo?
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
Yes thats him and has great experience as a position coach at a variety of places since his playing days.quote:
@macy_dale
Didn't he play WR for Alabama as a walk on?
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
I anticipate an on the field role if it’s finalized.quote:
@Crimsoncolored
On field or off?
Michael @Mike4172 · 9h
Not final but anticipated that Lance Taylor will join the Alabama staff.
Michael @Mike4172 · 10h
Joe Pannunzio stepping away to an off the field role at Alabama.
Michael @Mike4172 · 15h
My bad guys I left out the most important part about Huff.
Michael @Mike4172 · 15h
Welcome to your new home Charles Huff. Great addition to staff.
Michael @Mike4172 · Jan 19
Welcome home.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 8:19 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 7:52 am to TidalSurge1
Would Coach Kool go off field once Davis has his no-show clause ended?
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