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PBD4BAMA
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Member since Dec 2014
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re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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Glad you feel better, but it’s not why we lost.

Where in my original post did I say officiating cost those guys the game? I just stated the obvious...the last 2 minutes of regulation, the officiating was pathetic!
Did it cost them the game....who knows...maybe, maybe not! Their free throw shooting, 3 point shooting, turnovers and letting Jones (not JQ) have the final shot are all factors in why they lost but you can't say without a doubt that the officiating didn't play a part also!
All of that together is why they lost....the only good I can take from this is...as shitty as they played...the game was still theirs for the taking


Teague
Alabama Fan
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2007
19573 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
I'll tell us like I tell lsu fans; It's always the losers complaining about refs. It's easy to cherry pick calls. I found myself saying, "glad they didn't call that" quite a bit last night. Refs miss calls, but it usually comes close enough to evening out that it's no excuse for losing.

Except for that fricking Arkansas game. That was unwatchable.


McGregor
Alabama Fan
Member since Feb 2011
4309 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
did anyone tape the game? Can I get a Gary screenshot on the shot/foul at 1 minute left in the game?

They showed it once and it looked bad but I'd like to see it again.


Bamafan4evr12
Alabama Fan
Member since Jul 2014
1440 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
Officiating wasn't great, that's for sure. But its not why we lost.

If I'm not mistaken, we shot more FTs in regulation than UCLA. If we make even half of the ones we miss then we win that game in regulation.


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BamaAlum02
Alabama Fan
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2005
769 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
Their last go ahead 2 should have been a foul according to former coordinator of officiating. Talking about the play where Herb gets run over with about 16 seconds left.

Salt in the Wound

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As promised, here’s where I am on this play. The
@AlabamaMBB defender is in legal guarding position BEFORE the @UCLAMBB player leaves the floor. The ensuing contact is a foul on the UCLA player. This type of play has been a foul al night. (1/2).


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2/2. On this play you cannot have a no call. 1 thing I discovered in my review: the center or “slot” official is no where to be found and it’s his play to call. The Lead is focusing on the ball/pass as he should and MIGHT have seen the ensuing crash. Hope that helps.



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TiderNAL
Alabama Fan
Member since Nov 2010
5056 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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but you can't say without a doubt that the officiating didn't play a part also!


I can comfortably say that if Alabama makes its season average or better on free throws, shoots its season average or better from 3 pt line, and only turns the ball a half dozen times, that without question they would be in the Elite 8 right now and we would not be discussing officiating.




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The Spleen
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2010
33952 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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did anyone tape the game? Can I get a Gary screenshot on the shot/foul at 1 minute left in the game?

They showed it once and it looked bad but I'd like to see it again.




From my recollection, Gary went up for the shot, and the UCLA guy came crashing in from the side and his arms/hands made contact with Gary's arms completely altering the shot. The only defense I could see for not whistling the foul was the defender was in a vertical position and Gary jumped into him. The replay clearly showed that isn't what happened though.

I'm still too sick to look up a replay of it though.


East Coast Band
Alabama Fan
Member since Nov 2010
49116 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
The way we played, we would have taken the ball in after the foul and either turned it over or missed both free throws, opening the door for the UCLA game winning shot.


TS1926
Samford Fan
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2001 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
I agree with this. Free throw shooting and turnovers. It was a dismal performance and a real “shitting” of the bed on the big stage. Also, folks let’s please stop referring to UCLA as a “blue blood”. They haven’t done anything significant in years and the team Bama lost to was not that good. Alabama just did not perform at the level they are capable.


CaptainMorgan
Member since Oct 2007
927 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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Free throw shooting and turnovers. It was a dismal performance and a real “shitting” of the bed on the big stage.


I don’t think anyone will disagree with this.

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Also, folks let’s please stop referring to UCLA as a “blue blood”. They haven’t done anything significant in years and the team Bama lost to was not that good.


I mean, if UCLA isn’t a “blue blood”, I don’t know who is? 11 tournament championships. 2 more runner up finishes. 18 Final Fours. That’s eighteen.

Tournament appearances in 26 of the last 32 years with 15 Sweet 16’s, 7 Elite 8’s, and 4 Final Fours during that stretch alone. That’s better than most school’s entire basketball histories, including Bama’s. I’m 32 years old, so that’s recent enough for me.

Also, the team that “wasn’t that good” beat us last night to do something Bama has only done once, ever. They outplayed us without their best player in crunch time. I’d say they were pretty good.

It’s very reasonable to be upset by the loss and point to areas of weakness that cost Bama a win, but there’s reason to be mad at UCLA about it.
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SummerOfGeorge
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Member since Jul 2013
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re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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Also, the team that “wasn’t that good” beat us last night to do something Bama has only done once, ever. They outplayed us without their best player in crunch time. I’d say they were pretty good.



They're also #16 in KenPom and their 4 game losing streak to end the year was to Colorado, Oregon, USC (by 1) and Oregon State (down 3 with 4 minutes to go to the Final Four). UCLA is now ranked higher on KenPom thank Arkansas, FYI.

So, while it sucks arse we lost the way we did, UCLA is a good basketball team. They aren't a great basketball team, but they are a good basketball team.
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TS1926
Samford Fan
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2001 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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Also, the team that “wasn’t that good” beat us last night to do something Bama has only done once, ever. They outplayed us without their best player in crunch time. I’d say they were pretty good.


Lol. I’m not “mad” at UCLA. I stand by my statement that they haven’t done anything in years and they aren’t an exceptional team. Alabama would have lost to most decent clubs with that performance. Think about it, as shitty as they performed, they still should have won if they hit a few more FTs in regulation.


TS1926
Samford Fan
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2001 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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They aren't a great basketball team, but they are a good basketball team.


Almost all teams in the tournament are “good”. It was more of a poor performance from Bama than what UCLA did. Have to admit. Make free throws and advance.


SummerOfGeorge
Alabama Fan
Brookhaven, GA
Member since Jul 2013
80880 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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It was more of a poor performance from Bama than what UCLA did. Have to admit. Make free throws and advance.



Absolutely - it's tough to swallow


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CaptainMorgan
Member since Oct 2007
927 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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I stand by my statement that they haven’t done anything in years and they aren’t an exceptional team.


I guess it’s just a matter of opinion. They’ve done everything except win a title in my lifetime and they’ve been awfully close on a handful of occasions in that time.

I don’t think they’re exceptional, but they’re fundamentally sound, well coached, and outplayed the best team we’ve had in almost 20 years in a big game.

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Think about it, as shitty as they performed, they still should have won if they hit a few more FTs in regulation.


Yeah, I know. And it sucks. But... we didn’t. We didn’t make the clutch FT’s. Or even the early ones. We looked shaky all night at the line. I never once felt good about a guy going to the line after the first 10 minutes in that game.

I don’t really understand the thought process there. It’s like saying if we played better, we would have win the game.


CaptainMorgan
Member since Oct 2007
927 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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Almost all teams in the tournament are “good”. It was more of a poor performance from Bama than what UCLA did. Have to admit. Make free throws and advance.


I can 100% agree with this though. I think Bama played farther from their norm than UCLA did.

FT’s are the easiest thing to point out, but we could have a lot of things better in that game as well.

Either way, it sucks, and I think we all agree about that.


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Bear88
Alabama Fan
Member since Oct 2014
9266 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
Besides Petty, nobody could hit em ... not even guards. Something was just off all night, free throws , 3pt shooting, lack of PT for Rojas( I know but he has been a regular ) and Primo, Petty and Herb using ISO too much ... just weird game


SummerOfGeorge
Alabama Fan
Brookhaven, GA
Member since Jul 2013
80880 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
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Besides Petty, nobody could hit em ... not even guards. Something was just off all night, free throws , 3pt shooting, lack of PT for Rojas( I know but he has been a regular ) and Primo, Petty and Herb using ISO too much ... just weird game


I really think that we were a bit tight and UCLA smartly played a defense that invited us to do things that looked "easy" (iso post ups on their little PG) that in reality just helped us get more and more out of what we do.

I think I said watching another game before ours that the beauty of our offense is it eliminates the main "I dunno what to do let me do something easy" bad look - the iso mid range jumper. Somehow, UCLA found a way to lull us into doing something different but just as ineffective.
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IB4bama
Alabama Fan
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1475 posts

re: No excuses but the last 2 minutes of regulation...
Basketball officiating is very difficult, but you just need to get the obvious calls right. Gary got hit in the face and the arms, and the charge should have been an easy call. I can see how they missed the charge because the ball wasnt with the offensive player, but I dont see how they missed Gary getting mauled. He was shooting under the goal. No excuse on that one.


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