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Nick Saban made some lazy choices and it's finally catching up with Alabama
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:09 am
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:09 am
Not that Saban is lazy, we all know he isn't, he's a machine, but a lot of his recent staffing decisions have been questionable.
Rather than go out and find the next Kiffin or Sark, Saban chose to hire a guy that had name recognition and was a known commodity in Bill O'Brien. Bill then brought in his buddy Doug Marrone to coach the offensive line. It was the easy choice and the wrong one, and last night Alabama paid the price. Bill was handed the keys to a Ferrari and he's modified it into a '96 Toyota Avalon. This year's offense obviously doesn't have the talent that last year's squad had, but Lane Kiffin took a converted RB and nearly won the whole dang thing. There's no excuse.
Defensively, I honestly believe Saban knows that Pete Golding sucks but just doesn't want to have to deal with more turnover at the position and he keeps hoping that it will eventually click for Pete so he won't have to fire him. Well Nick, it's time. Pete Golding isn't a good coordinator, and the position group he coaches is almost always the worst on the field. Stop this madness; Georgia's defensive success proves that good defense can still exist. Pete should be relieved of his duties as soon as possible.
When Saban brought in Kiffin, people were shocked but it was probably the best move of his coaching career. It wasn't the easy or obvious choice, but Saban knew what everyone else didn't - Kiffin was ready and the course of the program changed.
It's time for Saban to make the hard choices again.
Rather than go out and find the next Kiffin or Sark, Saban chose to hire a guy that had name recognition and was a known commodity in Bill O'Brien. Bill then brought in his buddy Doug Marrone to coach the offensive line. It was the easy choice and the wrong one, and last night Alabama paid the price. Bill was handed the keys to a Ferrari and he's modified it into a '96 Toyota Avalon. This year's offense obviously doesn't have the talent that last year's squad had, but Lane Kiffin took a converted RB and nearly won the whole dang thing. There's no excuse.
Defensively, I honestly believe Saban knows that Pete Golding sucks but just doesn't want to have to deal with more turnover at the position and he keeps hoping that it will eventually click for Pete so he won't have to fire him. Well Nick, it's time. Pete Golding isn't a good coordinator, and the position group he coaches is almost always the worst on the field. Stop this madness; Georgia's defensive success proves that good defense can still exist. Pete should be relieved of his duties as soon as possible.
When Saban brought in Kiffin, people were shocked but it was probably the best move of his coaching career. It wasn't the easy or obvious choice, but Saban knew what everyone else didn't - Kiffin was ready and the course of the program changed.
It's time for Saban to make the hard choices again.
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 8:19 am
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:17 am to Goombaw
OL has been the worst ive seen from an Alabama team in a while. I thought maybe it was just we were used to the elite elite OL and this group was good, but im afraid thats not the case. Bryce has been running around all year. He has great pocket awareness and buys time by moving up and around to be able to fine receivers. Thats the most glaring issue. AM wreaked havoc and it wasnt that hard. Even Gary was calling their blitzes and we couldnt pick them up. B Rob would pick up one and still one was running unscathed through the line. That was pretty much at will all night.
Couple that with a defense that is Charmin soft, its a miracle we made it this far. Maybe this will get everyone refocused and some offseason changes are made.
Couple that with a defense that is Charmin soft, its a miracle we made it this far. Maybe this will get everyone refocused and some offseason changes are made.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:18 am to Goombaw
What really gets me is the lack of use of our young guys… we don’t rotate WR’s to even see who could be explosive. Where Hall? Jojo barley plays WR, Holden? Any of them.. we don’t use our talent. We stick with the 3 and 2 of them can’t get separation. Only one of them can really get open and teams double him now. I’m sorry but Metchie can’t catch.. he should be the 3rd receiver and rotated. Bolden can catch but can get separation. Williams is all we have playing. Our young talent has to be questioning it.. I know 1 recruit that’s committed is
Then we have our running game.. BRob and that’s all. We didn’t rotate hardly at all last night. Didn’t even give the young guys a chance to get going. Never ran the jumbo.. or toss sweeps.
Then the oline.. man on man. Can we not rotate around and play a young 5 star at tackle over Owens? Why recruit them if we won’t play them? A&M played 2 last night.
Saban and this play the older guys who don’t make mistakes and have less talent is finally catching up. I promise you it’s being talked about. My guy talked all night with a current Bama recruit.. and it’s being noticed. There is nothing wrong with rotating guys.. that’s how they learn and get experience. It’s just down right lazy and it kills future teams… look at young. He barely played last year
Then we have our running game.. BRob and that’s all. We didn’t rotate hardly at all last night. Didn’t even give the young guys a chance to get going. Never ran the jumbo.. or toss sweeps.
Then the oline.. man on man. Can we not rotate around and play a young 5 star at tackle over Owens? Why recruit them if we won’t play them? A&M played 2 last night.
Saban and this play the older guys who don’t make mistakes and have less talent is finally catching up. I promise you it’s being talked about. My guy talked all night with a current Bama recruit.. and it’s being noticed. There is nothing wrong with rotating guys.. that’s how they learn and get experience. It’s just down right lazy and it kills future teams… look at young. He barely played last year
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 8:22 am
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:24 am to Goombaw
Good Lord . . .
Lose one game on the final play (after all else goes wrong) and now the greatest coach of all time is lazy.
It’s ONE freakin’ game!!! Get over it.
You guys . . .
Lose one game on the final play (after all else goes wrong) and now the greatest coach of all time is lazy.
It’s ONE freakin’ game!!! Get over it.
You guys . . .
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:27 am to Bham4Tide
It’s deeper than that man.. it’s problems that have been noticed and it finally bit us. These have been going on for awhile. It’s not that we lost.. it’s what we are doing. We just out talent everyone.. but the lack of rotation is a real problem. We don’t even rotate WR’s. We literally play 3. We have tons of young talent that isn’t even getting a chance.
Then the Oline.. we have 5 star after 5 star sitting the bench and watching us get pushed around. Sure they will make mistakes.. but to me that’s better than Owens who gets beat every play.
My only real complaint is the lack of rotation and use of our young guys.. I’m not saying to start them.. but play them. Let them get the experience and you never know.. one might shine outside of practice. Rotate some on defense… get creative. Sure busts happen but you know what.. that’s how you learn. Inside of being up 35 against ole miss with the same 11 in. Rotate in some young LBs and D line. We are not developing these kids with in game situation. Then they have to start next year and we wonder why they are lost.
Then the Oline.. we have 5 star after 5 star sitting the bench and watching us get pushed around. Sure they will make mistakes.. but to me that’s better than Owens who gets beat every play.
My only real complaint is the lack of rotation and use of our young guys.. I’m not saying to start them.. but play them. Let them get the experience and you never know.. one might shine outside of practice. Rotate some on defense… get creative. Sure busts happen but you know what.. that’s how you learn. Inside of being up 35 against ole miss with the same 11 in. Rotate in some young LBs and D line. We are not developing these kids with in game situation. Then they have to start next year and we wonder why they are lost.
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 8:33 am
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:27 am to Goombaw
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Saban chose to hire a guy that had name recognition and was a known commodity in Bill O'Brien. Bill then brought in his buddy Doug Marrone to coach the offensive line.
Maybe Saban thought having two NFL head coaches on staff would help with player development and recruiting. I can see that logic. But they aren't very good.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:29 am to Lucky_Stryke
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OL has been the worst ive seen from an Alabama team in a while.
They got pushed around last night. And many may disagree, but if our S&C guys are such hot shite, why are we getting pushed around on the OL? They didn't when Cochran was here. Everyone used to love Cochran...until they didn't.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:30 am to Goombaw
Agree with all of that. BoB is just Mike Locksley with less talent at QB/WR to compensate for the general lack of creativity and innovation he brings to the table. Instead of RPO spam he just sequences the same plays over and over. It's kinda like watching a Gus offense. You know exactly what he's going to do based on nothing more than down and distance.
Nothing more needs to be said on Golding. It took an all time offense to make up for him last year, and that collection of talent and experience isn't going to happen again anytime soon, if ever.
Nothing more needs to be said on Golding. It took an all time offense to make up for him last year, and that collection of talent and experience isn't going to happen again anytime soon, if ever.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:34 am to Bham4Tide
Did you read it? I specifically said he is NOT lazy but his decisions were the easy ones. He hired a couple of NFL guys with the idea that they would assimilate to the Bama way. 3 passes inside the 4 and the revolving doors we had in there on the line last night proved that was wrong. He keeps Golding around even though this has been the worst 3 year stretch of defense I can ever remember at Alabama.
Saban has been the GOAT for a reason - he's never been afraid to adapt to win. I'm just asking him to do what he does best, make good changes, even if they aren't easy.
Saban has been the GOAT for a reason - he's never been afraid to adapt to win. I'm just asking him to do what he does best, make good changes, even if they aren't easy.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:43 am to BamaBo7
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Saban and this play the older guys who don’t make mistakes and have less talent is finally catching up
The same Saban that pulled Hurts for Freshman Tua? The same Saban that played 5-6 freshman in a title game? I’ll say this, if any recruit is considering not coming to Bama because of playing time then don’t come. Bama has more players in the NFL than any other team. Many with only 1-2 years of starting on the team. But yes, just because some freshman aren’t starting means Saban only plays veterans. Maybe the freshman hasn’t learned coverages yet. Maybe they don’t know their assignments. We all complain other teams playing “backyard ball” but that’s exactly what many are wanting us to start doing by saying “start the freshmen!”
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:49 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:maybe they are just not very good. ive not seen anything to indicate our players are not well conditioned. we had a great line last year and lost a lot of it.
but if our S&C guys are such hot shite, why are we getting pushed around on the OL
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:59 am to Goombaw
Hell, some of his decisions last night were just stupid!
He carried 2 TOs into halftime when he could have made them punt from their endzone if he'd used them, AND when the reporter asked him about it at the half, all he could do was smile and mumble a bunch of ridiculous shite that made NO SENSE.
He carried 2 TOs into halftime when he could have made them punt from their endzone if he'd used them, AND when the reporter asked him about it at the half, all he could do was smile and mumble a bunch of ridiculous shite that made NO SENSE.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:03 am to Goombaw
Nick shite the bed with the Tosh promotion in 2018 and it's been all downhill since then on defense
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:03 am to narddogg81
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quote: but if our S&C guys are such hot shite, why are we getting pushed around on the OL maybe they are just not very good. ive not seen anything to indicate our players are not well conditioned. we had a great line last year and lost a lot of it.
There is more to it than strength, technique also gets you pushed around on the OL.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:16 am to CrimsonBoz
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quote: but if our S&C guys are such hot shite, why are we getting pushed around on the OL maybe they are just not very good. ive not seen anything to indicate our players are not well conditioned. we had a great line last year and lost a lot of it.
There is more to it than strength, technique also gets you pushed around on the OL.
And then there's being just plain slow, like Owens.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:23 am to BamaGradinTn
Two starters return from 2019 73 and 55
71 was the 3rd team center and 70 wasn't getting much action
79 was the backup center and now the starting RT due to nobody behind him is better.
The problems were there all along and will be going forward. AU will be the best defense we face going forward.
71 was the 3rd team center and 70 wasn't getting much action
79 was the backup center and now the starting RT due to nobody behind him is better.
The problems were there all along and will be going forward. AU will be the best defense we face going forward.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:31 am to BamaBo7
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What really gets me is the lack of use of our young guys… we don’t rotate WR’s to even see who could be explosive. Where Hall? Jojo barley plays WR, Holden?
I agree as it is time to feed the young guys. Metchie is not reliable. To many drops with no excuse. Bolden is not a bad player but even as a simple outlet he is no threat. I really would like to see Holden and Jojo more with Hall getting some snaps.
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Then we have our running game.. BRob and that’s all. We didn’t rotate hardly at all last night. Didn’t even give the young guys a chance to get going. Never ran the jumbo.. or toss sweeps.
I really wish we would have used BRob at times last night especially when he was getting hot. But we need to get a better rotation because I am not sure he or anyone is built like Henry to take 30+ carries a game. Henry was a machine.
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Then the oline.. man on man. Can we not rotate around and play a young 5 star at tackle over Owens? Why recruit them if we won’t play them? A&M played 2 last night.
I think Neal did a great job and it looked like he was having to block 2 guys most of the night. Owens is a liability and agreed we should try someone else. in there. The one positive is the center with better snaps. But again that tells you a lot concerning our OL when the big news halfway through the season is working with our center on high snaps. That should have been dealt with in fall camp.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:35 am to BamaBo7
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I’m not saying to start them.. but play them. Let them get the experience and you never know.. one might shine outside of practice.
Like the 2nd half on the NC against UGA.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 3:10 pm to Bham4Tide
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Good Lord . . .
Lose one game on the final play (after all else goes wrong) and now the greatest coach of all time is lazy.
This game was over long before the first play- let alone the last one.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 3:23 pm to BamaBo7
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My only real complaint is the lack of rotation and use of our young guys.. I’m not saying to start them.. but play them.
Bingo! Only complaint I have . Said it in numerous threads. If you don’t I wouldn’t be surprised if some don’t transfer and it could be a real problem next year . Lack of rotation is alarming to me. Saban has played freshmen before but fir some reason this year feels different interns of that . If people want to argue “they don’t know the plays/assignments”, fine , give them opportunities on what they DO KNOW.
Hell if Saban hadn’t played Tua in the NC , he was prolly gone. These guys have a small window of opportunity to display their skills. The freshman WR class ( all top ten) could drop passes as well as the others and may surprise some what they can do
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 3:32 pm
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