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re: Metal Detectors Coming to BDS
Posted on 7/18/18 at 9:11 am to FairhopeTider
Posted on 7/18/18 at 9:11 am to FairhopeTider
I hope they don't hassle me over my forks. Plastic just doesn't work with those BBQ nachos.
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 9:37 am to pvilleguru
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Hell, it was easy as a student
Yeah, but I was there in the early 90's. I'd heard they got more strict after I left. It was common knowledge back then to not enter the gates near block seating if you were carrying liquor on you. Those were the only gates they really frisked you back then. Buddy of mine even snuck a bong into a game once, but we were too scared to fire it up.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:59 am to pvilleguru
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literally never been on my mind every time I've been to a sporting event.
Nor is it prevalent in my thoughts either whether I am at a huge target like a theme park or a football game but is that a product of feeling secure or is it a product of us having extreme short term memory. Look in this country we have this idea that is not fair we ever suffer individually or as a country. We are so hung up in things like it isn’t fair or it’s my right that when we go through anything at all that we don’t like we whine about it. Just look at the last election or two. I didn’t see anyone curled up in the fetal position when Obama was elected but there was enough complaining. My point being we are coddled here to a dangerous extreme whereas every other country even in developed European countries terrorism is a way of life now maybe not to the extreme of Israel or other middle eastern countries but it’s still far worse here. If a metal detector is what it takes to keep someone from doing extreme damage to me or my family so be it. I can put up with the aggravation. This does not just apply to Muslim extremist I am talking about some crazy student pissed off because he was kicked out of a university or his girlfriend broke up with him.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:19 am to The Spleen
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I really don't see the point of metal detectors. I've never felt unsafe at BDS. A crazed man could do just as much, if not more, damage on the Quad or the strip or the soccer lots or downtown than he could inside the stadium.
That's kind of my point. It's not like there aren't any other soft targets on Gameday and to your point, some of them would be a lot more vulnerable to damage than inside BDS. Keep in mind that the Vegas Shooter wasn't even inside the concert. Last year for the LSU game, our group rolled up to the checkpoint/barricade two blocks from the stadium in an unmarked white rental van. We told the officer with the automatic weapon that we were heading to a condo next to the stadium. He let us right in no questions asked. Didn't even need to give him an address.
I'm a broken record about this in this thread, but I don't think people really get how awful those lines were in ATL and Tampa. It would've been fish in a barrel if any nutjob wanted to do something. Getting to the stadium 90 minutes before kick off and using almost every bit of that to go through security while standing in the middle of thousands of people is insane and counter productive. Even something half as bad as that is unacceptable.
If metal detectors end up resulting in something mild like a 5-10 minute delay, then this is a non-issue in my mind. That might very well be the case, especially for the lesser attended home games. However, the stress test will come in the bigger ones when the crowds are bigger, more amped, and more intoxicated. Clearly I'm a little jaded but I'm always cynical of bureaucracies being capable of efficiently operating the logistics whenever something new like this is rolled out. The plan looks good on paper but it doesn't play out that way in reality. Quite often, it takes a clusterfrick or two in order to make things better.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:23 am to labamafan
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is that a product of feeling secure or is it a product of us having extreme short term memory
Personally, it's neither. The odds of it happening are just too miniscule to worry about. I'm far more concerned about an upper deck collapsing due to age and wear than some terrorist or crazed person.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 12:14 pm to FairhopeTider
Frankly, I'm surprised there hasn't been a mass shooting at an athletic event here in the US. Always at a school it seems.
That being said, it appears to me that it would be easy to do, and I'm not sure that the metal detectors outside the stadium are the answers.
Disclaimer: I'm not a big Second amendment guy,so my reservation of not using metal detectors does not come from these feelings.
The only way to fully protect all citizens in a mass grouping situation is to fully eradicate all guns, bombs, etc. And this is an impossibility.
So, bottom line, I don't know the answer
That being said, it appears to me that it would be easy to do, and I'm not sure that the metal detectors outside the stadium are the answers.
Disclaimer: I'm not a big Second amendment guy,so my reservation of not using metal detectors does not come from these feelings.
The only way to fully protect all citizens in a mass grouping situation is to fully eradicate all guns, bombs, etc. And this is an impossibility.
So, bottom line, I don't know the answer
Posted on 7/18/18 at 12:24 pm to The Spleen
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I've never felt unsafe at BDS
Me either.
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A crazed man could do just as much, if not more, damage on the Quad or the strip or the soccer lots or downtown than he could inside the stadium.
That's not really true, though. It's a much more densely packed target with far slower routes of escape, and more difficulty of access for police and medical response teams. There's a reason stadium security is hardened everywhere.
That being said, I've still never felt unsafe there.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 12:40 pm to East Coast Band
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I don't know the answer
No one really does. Metal detectors are a false sense of security aimed at reducing the risk of something that is already a very low risk threat from happening.
Could it happen? Absolutely. Is it worth the added inconvenience of gate entry for fans? I'm not so sure, but if it makes people feel better, whatever. I just hope the process goes smoothly. As the poster above suggested, the stories out of some of the bigger championship games sound dreadful.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:01 pm to FairhopeTider
This is a stupid.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:19 pm to FairhopeTider
Thanks Obama!
Posted on 7/18/18 at 7:12 pm to pvilleguru
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Am I the only person that has never had a problem with getting alcohol into a stadium?
Well, most of us don’t have a prison pocket capable of easily accommodating a half gallon of Milos sweet tea.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 9:02 am to labamafan
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Football is a huge American icon and the fact a game hasn’t been targeted yet is amazing to me.
I never really felt unsafe at an event, but I did have a moment this past A Day. Right before the team walked in, bomb sniffing dogs cleared the area. Something about that struck a nerve and kind of scared me to be honest. With Bama’s success, would some crazed rival do something drastic to attempt to hurt Saban? Lot of nut jobs in this world, anything is possible.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 2:24 pm to FairhopeTider
Looking at a metal detector line that goes from the middle of Wallace Wade and wraps around the block to the middle of the South Endzone.
Again, it’s not worth it.
Again, it’s not worth it.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 2:32 pm to pvilleguru
I got told by another fan not to mix a drink at UGa back in the late 90s.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 5:36 pm to FairhopeTider
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Again, the experiences I’m speaking of were more than a minor inconvenience. At the SECG and National Championship games, the metal detector lines were complete clusterfricks.
They were brutal at the Louisville game in Orlando. I stood in that "line" for 45 minutes.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:23 pm to FairhopeTider
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Looking at a metal detector line that goes from the middle of Wallace Wade and wraps around the block to the middle of the South Endzone.
It was so stupid by the people running that area. They have a long arse row of metal detectors, and only let people access them from either end of the line. So what happens? The middle 10 metal detectors go unused.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:32 pm to pvilleguru
Take the metal detectors and put them in the graveyard. I've got to piss. Thank you.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 8:30 am to pvilleguru
What’s terrible about the metal detectors is they really aren’t stopping anything. They are set to low and the security people aren’t exactly vetting everyone thourougly. The whole process is there to check some bureaucratic box, not make everyone safer.
I imagine thousands of people missed kickoff and the first TD because they were still in line outside the stadium. The photos on Twitter are exactly what I thought they would look like when they announced this was going to happen. It’s ridiculous and they wonder why people might choose to stay at home.
I imagine thousands of people missed kickoff and the first TD because they were still in line outside the stadium. The photos on Twitter are exactly what I thought they would look like when they announced this was going to happen. It’s ridiculous and they wonder why people might choose to stay at home.
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 8:40 am
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:58 am to FairhopeTider
Byrne said last night on Twitter that a bunch of people the security company hired didn't show up. Sounds like a lame, pass the buck excuse to me. I don't think the rain a little before kickoff helped as people probably delaydd heading to the stadium a bit.
Buddy of mine said he walked though the detectors for both games with a tobacco vape in his pocket that didn't set them off.
Buddy of mine said he walked though the detectors for both games with a tobacco vape in his pocket that didn't set them off.
Posted on 9/23/18 at 11:22 am to The Spleen
quote:That may be true, but it wasn't the problem for the South entrance.
Byrne said last night on Twitter that a bunch of people the security company hired didn't show up.
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