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Mac is not the reason we lost to Auburn.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:30 pm
I keep seeing people say if it wasn’t for the two pick 6s we would have won. Our defense gave up 34 points to an awful Auburn offense. They scored 28 on Texas A&M. 27 to Oregon, 24 to Tulane, 20 to Ole Miss, 20 to LSU, 14 to UGA and 13 to Florida. Mac and the offense did more than enough to win that game but our defense failed us time and again. Excuses are like assholes, everyone has them and they all stink.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:37 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
He's not THE reason, but he's A reason.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:38 pm to pvilleguru
@ OP
Question, do you think we win that game with a healthy Tua?
Question, do you think we win that game with a healthy Tua?
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:38 pm to pvilleguru
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but he's A reason
I will concede they hurt but he answered after both of those.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:39 pm to Gustave
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Question, do you think we win that game with a healthy Tua?
Yes but I also think we would win if we had Derrick Thomas. We had neither so it doesn’t matter.
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Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:39 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
Season died when Tua went down vs MSU during a blow out.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:46 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
It was just a super fluky game. They somehow put up 34 with Nix 50% and 350 total yards. We dominated time of possession. Our postgame win expectancy was 94%. We should have won. But somehow we didn't. Just a bizarre game.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:50 pm to RollTide33
I agree it was a fluke game but it’s not Mac’s fault. That’s all I’m saying.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:53 pm to Gustave
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Season died when Tua went down
For the most part I agree. This is a separate topic but how do we tie our success to one person? There is too much dependency on one position. We can’t go back to go run and pound. That’s just outdated but I feel like we may have gone too far the other way.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 11:57 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
This was Tua's team and the way he got hurt would disturb any team.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 12:31 am to TizzyT4theUofA
Defense played well enough to win, held Auburn below their season average by almost 100 yards.
Mac Jones is responsible for a 21 point swing in that game. Gave Auburn 14 points and took 7 from Bama. That last pick six happened on 1st and goal from the 2.
Mac Jones's pick sixes are 99% of the reason Bama lost that game. Without them Bama wins easily.
Mac Jones is responsible for a 21 point swing in that game. Gave Auburn 14 points and took 7 from Bama. That last pick six happened on 1st and goal from the 2.
Mac Jones's pick sixes are 99% of the reason Bama lost that game. Without them Bama wins easily.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 1:07 am to TizzyT4theUofA
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I keep seeing people say if it wasn’t for the two pick 6s we would have won.
We’re saying that because it’s true. Even though Mac came back and did well enough that we could’ve still won, it doesn’t change the fact that if he doesn’t throw those two INTs, we win the game regardless of the defense...
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our defense failed us time and again.
This is not the Bama defense of old. Attrition from early entries, recruiting misses, and especially the devastating injuries on the front 7, we were forced to start 6 true freshmen on D this year, up to 5 of ‘em at the same time. They’re very talented but most were not ready that soon. MLB was the position of least depth for us and Moses and McMillon getting hurt before taking a snap handicapped us severely and we never really recovered from it...
That being said, our defense should be very experienced next year and I think we’ll see big improvement...
Posted on 12/8/19 at 1:12 am to TizzyT4theUofA
We 100% win with Tua.
That 1st one, Jeudy was wide open and Mac airmailed it. Tua not only makes that throw 10/10 times but he puts it where Jeudy can turn up field and get more yards.
The 2nd one, Tua eats the sack and we at least get 3 points. Tua was playing smarter this year and forced 1 ball all year against Tennessee. And if he threw it he might have completed it.
Another play Mac didn’t make was on the 1st drive when he underthrew a wide open Devonta for a TD and allowed the Barn DB to recover and make the play. Tua makes that throw.
That 1st one, Jeudy was wide open and Mac airmailed it. Tua not only makes that throw 10/10 times but he puts it where Jeudy can turn up field and get more yards.
The 2nd one, Tua eats the sack and we at least get 3 points. Tua was playing smarter this year and forced 1 ball all year against Tennessee. And if he threw it he might have completed it.
Another play Mac didn’t make was on the 1st drive when he underthrew a wide open Devonta for a TD and allowed the Barn DB to recover and make the play. Tua makes that throw.
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 1:13 am
Posted on 12/8/19 at 1:42 am to TizzyT4theUofA
He threw two pick six every time we had momentum to kill us. The 14 point swing on his last pick six was backbreaking.
He is a big part of why we lost.
He is a big part of why we lost.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 2:04 am to TizzyT4theUofA
I just don’t see the point in having to rally around a mediocre backup QB.
Mac is ok. Hopefully Bryce Young is an elite talent like T Lawrence or Justin Fields. We’ll need him to be if we want to win a NC in 2020 and beyond
Mac is ok. Hopefully Bryce Young is an elite talent like T Lawrence or Justin Fields. We’ll need him to be if we want to win a NC in 2020 and beyond
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 2:07 am
Posted on 12/8/19 at 2:09 am to uofarolltide
Exactly.
Kid is mediocre at best and had an NFL receiving crew to throw to. Still missed open TDs and two pick six.
Heck if he was accurate on that throw to Devonta on the first drive we would have won.
Our QB was just as much a liability (even more honestly) as our DC.
Kid is mediocre at best and had an NFL receiving crew to throw to. Still missed open TDs and two pick six.
Heck if he was accurate on that throw to Devonta on the first drive we would have won.
Our QB was just as much a liability (even more honestly) as our DC.
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 2:10 am
Posted on 12/8/19 at 3:02 am to mistaken4193
quote:and gets injured
The 2nd one, Tua eats the sack
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:58 am to remaster916
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Defense played well enough to win, held Auburn below their season average by almost 100 yards.
Mac Jones is responsible for a 21 point swing in that game. Gave Auburn 14 points and took 7 from Bama. That last pick six happened on 1st and goal from the 2.
Mac Jones's pick sixes are 99% of the reason Bama lost that game. Without them Bama wins easily.
Even using your math, the defense still gave up 27 points to a really suspect Auburn offense. They let Boobie Whitlow and Bo Nix rush for more yards than Najee on fewer carries. Don’t excuse the defense and don’t lay the blame at Mac’s feet. Those picks were crushing, but the lack of leadership and discipline on this team led directly to that loss. When asshats like Landon Dickerson are the type they look to for leadership, you get what you get. The upperclassmen on the team had a responsibility to keep guys focused and minimize the dumb mistakes. Instead, we had 13 penalties for over 100 yards. Penalties we couldn’t afford at crucial times. They were more critical in the loss than the pick sixes and most were just mental softness. It frustrates the hell out me the way we gave that game away in so many ways.
And in many ways I blame Nick Saban because of his history, dating all the way back to his days in Baton Rouge. He has shown a propensity for making poor decisions and choices whenever he walks into Jordan Hare. It’s almost like he’s intimidated down there. How many times have we taken an equal or superior team in there only to struggle to win or herp derp to a loss? He needs to find a way to approach that game differently.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:46 am to remaster916
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Mac Jones is responsible for a 21 point swing in that game. Gave Auburn 14 points and took 7 from Bama. That last pick six happened on 1st and goal from the 2.
That last pick was not Mac's fault. A DE went completely unblocked and was in his face when Mac let the ball go. With just one half second more of time, that's an easy TD to Najee in the end zone. Instead, because of the pressure, it was a little behind. Najee tipped it with his arm and the ball landed in the bread basket of the pursuing defender, who took it 100 yards to the house.
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:48 am to YStar
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Heck if he was accurate on that throw to Devonta on the first drive we would have won.
We had a TD from Mac to Jaylen that was called back due to a holding penalty on that first drive. That hold did not effect the play at all as it occurred just as Mac was letting the ball go.
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 7:49 am
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