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Losing sight on the important things: Medical marijuana gets passed around the AL senate
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:30 am
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:30 am
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With recent news, we’ve overlooked this gem. This is overdue - strictly from a medical standpoint of course. Still has a ways to go to be legal here, but this is a good first step.
With recent news, we’ve overlooked this gem. This is overdue - strictly from a medical standpoint of course. Still has a ways to go to be legal here, but this is a good first step.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:50 am to Bham4Tide
Don’t get your hopes up too soon. It passed the Senate last year, only to fail in the House.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:35 am to LovetheLord
Prohibition of possession and/or selling doesn't stop the sale and use of alcohol or marijuana. Instead, it results in "black market" production and distribution. It seems to me that testing required by employers, insurors, landlords, lenders, etc. is probably more effective at actually reducing "recreational" use. Either way, there'll still be people who use those substances and there'll still be weak, lazy, ignorant folks. Some will rely on extra sleeping or crappy TV programs instead. Regardless of whether those folks do or don't smoke pot, they can still perform important productive jobs such as deliveries, making sammiches, cleaning, etc.
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 3/13/20 at 7:51 am to Bham4Tide
I guess this is a positive step, but full legalization should immediately follow it.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:34 am to LovetheLord
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LovetheLord
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Nothing quite says "Your state is full of ignorant, soft and lazy losers" quite like legalized recreational marijuana. Buck-up and face life.
Nothing says Love the Lord like your comment
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:40 am to LovetheLord
God wouldn't have put marijuana in the ground if he didn't intend for us to enjoy its benefits.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:46 am to TidalSurge1
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Prohibition of possession and/or selling doesn't stop the sale and use of alcohol or marijuana. Instead, it results in "black market" production and distribution. It seems to me that testing required by employers, insurors, landlords, lenders, etc. is probably more effective at actually reducing "recreational" use. Either way, there'll still be people who use those substances and there'll still be weak, lazy, ignorant folks who's jobs are making sammiches, cleaning stuff, etc.
Prohibition put the mafia in business in this country. I'm trying but I can't think of a time in our history that the government has ever been successful in legislating morals. Yet they seem to be hell-bent on their job-description.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:39 am to MoarKilometers
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Go read a book you illiterate son of a bitch, and step up your vocab- bun b
Okay, I laughed! Niccceeeeee hahaha
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:18 am to LovetheLord
Ok.
This has gone on long enough.
This has gone on long enough.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:19 pm to Bham4Tide
I hope medical marijuana comes to fruition fast. I'm not sure how I feel about full legalization. I spoke with an officer that works for a mid sized department in CO. He said they are overwhelmed in some areas crime wise. Especially DUIs. Thefts have skyrocketed. Dispensery law enforcement and checking amounts for what they have logged they have sold. I mean police departments will have to expand more and most are already on shoe string budgets. I have no verification at all just going by what he stated.
I find it hard to believe that there won't be any repercussions from full legalization. I dunno all the pros and cons.
I find it hard to believe that there won't be any repercussions from full legalization. I dunno all the pros and cons.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:26 pm to Lucky_Stryke
I'd be fine with medical and de-criminalization of small amounts. It's ridiculous to send someone to prison for an ounce of personal use marijuana.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:35 pm to The Spleen
I absolutely agree there.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:37 pm to Bham4Tide
I think it is a great first step and I honestly thought Alabama would be the last holdout state.
Like anything in Alabama politics, our elected officials are finding ways to screw up something with overwhelming bi-partisan support.
The proposal doesn't allow flower or smoked product. That means the person in poverty can't grow it in their backyard for next to nothing and instead has to go through the process of buying from a dispensary. If they really wanted to help low income people who are suffering they wouldn't restrict the ability to grow and smoke.
Also, they slipped in a last minute change that says you have to have been a farmer for 15 years to get a cultivation license. The speculation was there was some established agriculture influencers who wanted to limit competition. That's bad for pricing and innovation but it means it has a better chance to pass if the gold old boy network is starting to manipulate it to line their pockets.
We got to this point last year and didn't pass so I'm skeptical but it's at least another shot on goal.
Like anything in Alabama politics, our elected officials are finding ways to screw up something with overwhelming bi-partisan support.
The proposal doesn't allow flower or smoked product. That means the person in poverty can't grow it in their backyard for next to nothing and instead has to go through the process of buying from a dispensary. If they really wanted to help low income people who are suffering they wouldn't restrict the ability to grow and smoke.
Also, they slipped in a last minute change that says you have to have been a farmer for 15 years to get a cultivation license. The speculation was there was some established agriculture influencers who wanted to limit competition. That's bad for pricing and innovation but it means it has a better chance to pass if the gold old boy network is starting to manipulate it to line their pockets.
We got to this point last year and didn't pass so I'm skeptical but it's at least another shot on goal.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:42 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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Especially DUIs.
Could definitely see that.
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I mean police departments will have to expand more and most are already on shoe string budgets.
There is so much money to be made that the budgets should expand. If AL could get out of it's own way and go full legal we would have more revenue than the politician could steal.
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I find it hard to believe that there won't be any repercussions from full legalization.
Agree and with anything in life there are trade offs. If we can curb the opioid epidemic (and studies have shown medical does just that) I find it hard to believe we won't be net positive when comparing the pros/cons.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:02 pm to BamaAlum02
I'm afraid that law enforcement will be left out to dry to get properly funded to support it while other areas rake in the revenue. But that's not an uncommon problem at all. Just hope if it comes to legalization that it is earmarked appropriately so that it can be enforced adequately.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:25 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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I'm not sure how I feel about full legalization. I spoke with an officer that works for a mid sized department in CO. He said they are overwhelmed in some areas crime wise. Especially DUIs. Thefts have skyrocketed. Dispensery law enforcement and checking amounts for what they have logged they have sold.
Department of revenue handles all marijuana compliance related stuff, not the cops. So I'm not sure I'm believing any of the other allegations.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:30 pm to Bham4Tide
I hope it passes, but not optimistic. The Baptists and older folks are already gearing up to fight it. My mom and some of her church lady friends have been sharing a bunch of ridiculous anti-legalization posts on FB. (Sigh)
One of my Mom’s friends posted a picture of a California homeless encampment with the caption “This is what California looks like after legalization. Tell your representatives that Alabamians don’t want failed liberal policies in our state.”
Obviously homelessness and marijuana have little to do with each other, but that’s the mindset that legalization is up against. Basically reefer madness mixed in with politics.
One of my Mom’s friends posted a picture of a California homeless encampment with the caption “This is what California looks like after legalization. Tell your representatives that Alabamians don’t want failed liberal policies in our state.”
Obviously homelessness and marijuana have little to do with each other, but that’s the mindset that legalization is up against. Basically reefer madness mixed in with politics.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:58 pm to MoarKilometers
The revenue department is a branch of law enforcement. Just like if you get a ticket for expired tags. Revenue makes sure they are getting their share of what's sold. Dea ATF all that is law enforcement just specialized divisions
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