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Let’s discuss the football schedule for the next 2 years.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:20 pm
I think we are all extremely looking forward to the next couple of years of Bama football, especially with the potential of Tua at qb and knowing our defense will always be good.
However, the one thing that I’m not looking forward to is the pitiful schedule.
2017: Louisville (sans Lamar Jackson), UL Lafayette, Arkansas State, The Citadel, and our normal SEC schedule (with Missouri in the non-division spot).
2018: Duke, New Mexico State, Southern Miss, and a TBD, and our normal SEC schedule (I’m undure of the non-division opponent).
Anybody else extremely disappointed with these schedules? With the talent of this team it would be a great time to chalk up some regular season wins against the Oklahomas, Ohio States of the world.
However, the one thing that I’m not looking forward to is the pitiful schedule.
2017: Louisville (sans Lamar Jackson), UL Lafayette, Arkansas State, The Citadel, and our normal SEC schedule (with Missouri in the non-division spot).
2018: Duke, New Mexico State, Southern Miss, and a TBD, and our normal SEC schedule (I’m undure of the non-division opponent).
Anybody else extremely disappointed with these schedules? With the talent of this team it would be a great time to chalk up some regular season wins against the Oklahomas, Ohio States of the world.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 1:21 pm
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:23 pm to bodask42
Yea it sucks. Really nothing more to add. I don't really care about any excuses for why we do neutrals, why we can't get "good teams" to play us, etc. It sucks, and other big time programs have at least 1 great game the next 2 years and most are doing a good home and home. AND, a lot of those conferences also play 9 games.
It's embarrassing and we should be embarrassed. And it pisses me off as a season ticket holder.
It's embarrassing and we should be embarrassed. And it pisses me off as a season ticket holder.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:27 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Can we at least take UCF up on their home and home offer? I know they won’t be the same team without Scott Frost, but it’s got to be a higher profile than some of these other cupcakes we play. And I could take a trip down to Disney in the fall! Make it happen Bama!
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
When the university sees a drop in season ticket purchases, then they’ll start listening to us. But until then, they dgaf about what we think
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:33 pm to Bamafan15
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When the university sees a drop in season ticket purchases, then they’ll start listening to us. But until then, they dgaf about what we think
When we get left out of a playoff because our OOC is Duke, New Mexico State, Southern Miss and Western Carolina, then I guarantee you they will change.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:34 pm to bodask42
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Anybody else extremely disappointed with these schedules? With the talent of this team it would be a great time to chalk up some regular season wins against the Oklahomas, Ohio States of the world.
A lot of conversation from OSU fans since losing to OU this year is the opposite, and they want OSU to get easier games. Regular season games are great, but being in the playoff is better. IF OU and OSU hadn't played the last 2 years, there is a good chance both teams were in the playoff both years (maybe OSU losses out in 2016 but their schedule was quite good still and may have gotten in ahead of Washington since they were the #3 seed)
The playoff has kind of killed all other bowl games
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:37 pm to Buckeye06
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A lot of conversation from OSU fans since losing to OU this year is the opposite, and they want OSU to get easier games. Regular season games are great, but being in the playoff is better. IF OU and OSU hadn't played the last 2 years, there is a good chance both teams were in the playoff both years (maybe OSU losses out in 2016 but their schedule was quite good still and may have gotten in ahead of Washington since they were the #3 seed)
Perhaps, but if Ohio State had replaced Oklahoma with Boston College and their OOC schedule was BC, Army and UNLV and they had that 31 pt loss to Iowa on the schedule.........I'm not sure the discussion is any different. I don't think anybody penalized Ohio State for losing to Oklahoma. Now, maybe deep in people's minds the 2-loss thing contributed, but Ohio State didn't get in because they lost by 31 points to Iowa. If they'd lost to Oklahoma like they did and lost by 10 to Iowa, they would have been in the playoff.
And Oklahoma would have had a schedule in which they lost to 9-4 Houston (by 10) and their best wins were 3 loss Okie State and 3 loss West Virginia in a really crappy Big XII where half the teams lost at least 6 games. I'm not really sure they get in either.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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When we get left out of a playoff because our OOC is Duke, New Mexico State, Southern Miss and Western Carolina, then I guarantee you they will change.
As long as we do our job, an undefeated Alabama team isn't going to be left out.
You can not care about excuses but honestly, if you are a non-Alabama team, what is the benefit of playing us? There is a substantial gap between talent.
If you look at the bottom of the AP top 25. Who would schedule us? Stanford? Boise St? South Florida? NC State? Virginia Tech? Memphis? Michigan St? Oklahoma St? Washington? Northwestern?
Next years schedule isn't that BAD. Louisville has been a top 25 program. Also, it wasn't for sure certain that Lamar Jackson would leave considering all the top QBs leaving the draft. (Rosen, Darnold, etc.)
Duke being the top OOC for that schedule is shameful.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:47 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:This could be its own thread and not really directed at you, was just thinking of this earlier...
And it pisses me off as a season ticket holder.
My dad is a season ticket holder. Obviously there are many reasons decide to be one - kids, families, parking, whatever- they all factor in. But, with not knowing future games (I know you renew them, but most consider it a long-term deal), I save a shite ton on stubhub or friends selling theirs at the last minute. I dont know what games I can go to and I cant see why my dad pays money for a full season when he is only going to go to a few games a year. Going forward, I cant see people paying for season tickets when every game is on TV and most people cant go to all the games.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:47 pm to UASports23
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As long as we do our job, an undefeated Alabama team isn't going to be left out.
How many times have we had an undefeated regular season in the Saban era? Twice (2009, 2016). In all likelihood we will lose a regular season game. At that point, our schedule will be discussed, and that schedule will rightfully be laughed at.
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You can not care about excuses but honestly, if you are a non-Alabama team, what is the benefit of playing us? There is a substantial gap between talent
In a neutral site game? There is none. We dominate those games. In a home and home? Tons. You get us on your campus, a road game at Alabama would almost be viewed as a total mulligan for 95% of programs both in terms of job security and a blemish on your team's resume.
We haven't scheduled a home and home series in a decade (Penn State was scheduled pre-Saban). Michigan State and Georgia Tech were also pre-Saban and then cancelled. Not a single one. That's pathetic.
I don't like all neutral site games, but I "get it". However, if we can't get people to play us in them, then we have to do something else. An OOC schedule of 3 shitbags and Duke isn't acceptable.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:48 pm to lion
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My dad is a season ticket holder. Obviously there are many reasons decide to be one - kids, families, parking, whatever- they all factor in. But, with not knowing future games (I know you renew them, but most consider it a long-term deal), I save a shite ton on stubhub or friends selling theirs at the last minute. I dont know what games I can go to and I cant see why my dad pays money for a full season when he is only going to go to a few games a year. Going forward, I cant see people paying for season tickets when every game is on TV and most people cant go to all the games.
If we hadn't very recently gotten them, and I wasn't young and with young kids, I'd seriously consider getting rid of them. My parents, who have had season tickets for decades, are on the verge of it. Add in the removal of the charitable giving tax benefit aspect, and I would imagine they aren't alone.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Perhaps, but if Ohio State had replaced Oklahoma with Boston College and their OOC schedule was BC, Army and UNLV and they had that 31 pt loss to Iowa on the schedule.........I'm not sure the discussion is any different. I don't think anybody penalized Ohio State for losing to Oklahoma. Now, maybe deep in people's minds the 2-loss thing contributed, but Ohio State didn't get in because they lost by 31 points to Iowa. If they'd lost to Oklahoma like they did and lost by 10 to Iowa, they would have been in the playoff.
And Oklahoma would have had a schedule in which they lost to 9-4 Houston (by 10) and their best wins were 3 loss Okie State and 3 loss West Virginia in a really crappy Big XII where half the teams lost at least 6 games. I'm not really sure they get in either.
Both conference champs with 1 loss were probably getting in over a non-conference champ bama who didn't have a great SOS. I think people are assuming 2 losses is worse than 1 loss no matter who the losses are to or by how much. No one knows the answer but the committee straight up lied the week before the final rankings. It has made it easy for me to decide no reason to watch any of that stuff for "clues"
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:54 pm to Buckeye06
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made it easy for me to decide no reason to watch any of that stuff for "clues"
All the other weeks are 100% TV entertainment IMHO.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:56 pm to Buckeye06
quote:The other bowl games were already dead.
The playoff has kind of killed all other bowl games
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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All the other weeks are 100% TV entertainment IMHO.
Well the issue is, and probably valid, is the week before the final rankings the chair said OSU and Bama were "close" or "extremely close" something to that effect. Following that statement, Fresno lost, Auburn lost, and OSU beat a top 5 team. If they were extremely close, wouldn't 3 huge things that all went for OSU would switch 5 and 8. But they couldn't have been close based on the final decision
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:25 pm to Buckeye06
That doesn’t mean he lied, they may have very well been “close” but like he said at the end of the day they’d felt that Bama was one of the four best teams. Bottom line is that they couldn’t get over the huge loss to Iowa and that was the difference.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:33 pm to bodask42
The Duke game is an absolute joke. Any game scheduled with them should include their basketball team traveling to Coleman.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:34 pm to Buckeye06
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Well the issue is, and probably valid, is the week before the final rankings the chair said OSU and Bama were "close" or "extremely close" something to that effect.
Honestly it’s as simple as he lied to keep people interested in the games. I knew it was a lie when I first heard it.
They even came out afterwards and said it wasn’t even close.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:35 pm to Buckeye06
quote:I remeber him saying that and he was asked about it later. He was saying there were discussions for all teams, as it dont read into every word. Personally, Fresno losing in the Conf champ on their opponents field shouldnt flip a team. Thats what the BCS did and was ridicuous. Hawaii losing at 3am to put LSU in with two losses shouldnt be what everyone focuses on.
the chair said OSU and Bama were "close" or "extremely close" something to that effect.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:47 pm to lion
UL was looking like a top 10 team when we scheduled them. Duke is a total head scratcher as that match-up excites nobody even if they are decent.
I've really enjoyed our neutral OOC games recently. Michigan, USC, FSU, VT, Wisconsin, Clemson and the PSU home and home were all really nice match-ups. UL and Duke are not in that category which is strange. Don't we open with Miami in 2020? That's a cool match-up.
I've really enjoyed our neutral OOC games recently. Michigan, USC, FSU, VT, Wisconsin, Clemson and the PSU home and home were all really nice match-ups. UL and Duke are not in that category which is strange. Don't we open with Miami in 2020? That's a cool match-up.
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