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Just one playoff run without a lame duck coordinator
Posted on 12/15/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 12/15/20 at 5:27 pm
Please. Can we have one playoff run without one of our coordinators getting poached and trying to coach with one foot out the door? Looking at you Sark.
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 5:36 pm to RollTide33
Why does nobody try and take from Dabo? I’d figure Venables and Tony Elliot would be getting calls all the time
Posted on 12/15/20 at 5:40 pm to mistaken4193
No sexton?
Posted on 12/15/20 at 5:44 pm to RollTide33
Have I missed something? Is Sark leaving or just speculation. Either way I agree. I like the continuity myself. I’ve always read that Venables is happy doing what he is doing. Not really wanting to be a head coach.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 5:53 pm to Crimsonwave
Just board rumors he's high on the cow college's candidate list.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 5:59 pm to RollTide33
Sexton doing work as usual....another new Range Rover headed his way
Posted on 12/15/20 at 6:02 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
There is something fishy about that situation at Clemson.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 6:27 pm to RollTide33
A....freaking....men!!!
Not only do we have to endure a SEC schedule, but Saban has to juggle staffing issues with preparing for the playoff.
Meanwhile Clemson, which is right there with us as one of the strongest programs in the country, seems to never have to deal with any kind of staff issues. Kind of remarkable how they’ve had such little turnover over the years.
Not only do we have to endure a SEC schedule, but Saban has to juggle staffing issues with preparing for the playoff.
Meanwhile Clemson, which is right there with us as one of the strongest programs in the country, seems to never have to deal with any kind of staff issues. Kind of remarkable how they’ve had such little turnover over the years.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 6:35 pm to FairhopeTider
Well, Clemson did lose Jeff Scott last year to USF. Venables is pretty clearly just Mickey Andrews at this point - he's not going anywhere.
And the OC that is left, Elliot, is just frankly not that good. Their offense is vanilla as hell, now. They have elite skill dudes running it, so when it clicks it clicks, but they look clunky as hell WAY too often to have that many dudes.
And past that, I mean, look at the rest of their assistants. They're guys whose names you recognize from being rotating coaches in the SEC for the 90s/2000s and/or dudes that have been with Dabo since he took the job/played with him at Alabama.
- Danny Pearman (ST/TE) (55 yrs, Clemson grad, been there since 2009)
- Brandon Streeter (QB) (43 yrs, Clemson grad, been there since 2014, before that 1AA)
- Todd Bates (DL) (Alabama grad, came from Jax St)
- Robbie Caldwell (OL) (66 yrs, came from Vandy, been there since 2011)
- Mickey Conn (S) (Alabama grad & Dabo teammate, came from Grayson HS)
- Tyler Grisham (WR) (Clemson grad from Hoover, been at Clemson since he got cut from the NFL, played for Dabo)
- Lemanski Hall (DE) (Alabama grad & Dabo teammate, came to Clemson from HS)
- Mike Reed (CB) (BC Grad, came from NC State in 2013)
So, really the ONLY guys on that staff who aren't Bama guys or Clemson grads are Mike Reed and Robbie Caldwell.
Dabo identified guys who weren't commodities and brought them in. Add to it they have allegiance to him from the past or Clemson from the past (or both), plus the fact that it probably is a pretty relatively good place to work.........and it's a recipe for sticking around.
And the OC that is left, Elliot, is just frankly not that good. Their offense is vanilla as hell, now. They have elite skill dudes running it, so when it clicks it clicks, but they look clunky as hell WAY too often to have that many dudes.
And past that, I mean, look at the rest of their assistants. They're guys whose names you recognize from being rotating coaches in the SEC for the 90s/2000s and/or dudes that have been with Dabo since he took the job/played with him at Alabama.
- Danny Pearman (ST/TE) (55 yrs, Clemson grad, been there since 2009)
- Brandon Streeter (QB) (43 yrs, Clemson grad, been there since 2014, before that 1AA)
- Todd Bates (DL) (Alabama grad, came from Jax St)
- Robbie Caldwell (OL) (66 yrs, came from Vandy, been there since 2011)
- Mickey Conn (S) (Alabama grad & Dabo teammate, came from Grayson HS)
- Tyler Grisham (WR) (Clemson grad from Hoover, been at Clemson since he got cut from the NFL, played for Dabo)
- Lemanski Hall (DE) (Alabama grad & Dabo teammate, came to Clemson from HS)
- Mike Reed (CB) (BC Grad, came from NC State in 2013)
So, really the ONLY guys on that staff who aren't Bama guys or Clemson grads are Mike Reed and Robbie Caldwell.
Dabo identified guys who weren't commodities and brought them in. Add to it they have allegiance to him from the past or Clemson from the past (or both), plus the fact that it probably is a pretty relatively good place to work.........and it's a recipe for sticking around.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 12/15/20 at 6:39 pm to FairhopeTider
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Not only do we have to endure a SEC schedule, but Saban has to juggle staffing issues
This right here (after watching lsu crumble under the pressure this year) just makes what Bama has done these past years even more impressive. As if that was possible.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 6:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Well, Clemson did lose Jeff Scott last year to USF
Yeah, but one coordinator over the course of 5-6 years is pretty remarkable. You’d think mid-level programs would be poaching position coaches left and right to be coordinators. That doesn’t seem to be the case.
It would be really nice to not have to worry about any of that stuff for just one year.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 12/15/20 at 7:57 pm to RollTide33
How weird would it be to see a Auburn soon-to-be head coach, actually coaching at Alabama (in the playoffs) but recruiting for Auburn?
I can't see Sark doing something like that to Saban.
I can't see Sark doing something like that to Saban.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:36 pm to Bham4Tide
One year without injuries would be great as well.
Imo if we had Eddie Jackson in 2016 we win it all. And if we dont have all the injuries last year we are playing in the playoff.
Imo if we had Eddie Jackson in 2016 we win it all. And if we dont have all the injuries last year we are playing in the playoff.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:18 am to Crimsonwave
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Is Sark leaving or just speculation.
And nothing more. Why would he not be on top of the list for many teams? If not why would we want him? But being on the top of the list for another team does not equate to him leaving.
How many times has Saban been the top candidate for another HC job?
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I’ve always read that Venables is happy doing what he is doing. Not really wanting to be a head coach.
I think it may be the same for Sark now as well.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:30 am to BFANLC
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Imo if we had Eddie Jackson in 2016 we win it all. And if we dont have all the injuries last year we are playing in the playoff.
Eddie Jackson, Bo Scarbrough, SDH and that game isn't even close.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:32 am to RollTide33
They targeted Cristobal, Steele, and Freeze.
Boosters balked on Freeze, Cristobal likely isn't leaving Oregon, and Steele is leveraging his position with influential folk on the plains = last I heard Steele was in the lead for the job.
Boosters balked on Freeze, Cristobal likely isn't leaving Oregon, and Steele is leveraging his position with influential folk on the plains = last I heard Steele was in the lead for the job.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:45 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Range Rover? frick that he is buying another yacht.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 10:04 am to TideWarrior
Isn't Venables kids currently playing for Clemson? I thought i read somewhere that he isn't going anywhere until they grad.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 10:18 am to RollTide33
With the early signing day coaches that take another job before playoffs won’t have to spend as much time recruiting for the new team. That was the major problem
And yes Venables has 2 sons at Clemson. It’s a good bet he will be more likely to accept a head coach job after their departure
And yes Venables has 2 sons at Clemson. It’s a good bet he will be more likely to accept a head coach job after their departure
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:43 am to C W
His youngest son is a freshman. I imagine Venables at least sticks around his entire career. He would be like 53 at that point. His chance to be a HC might have sailed at that point.
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