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mistaken4193
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Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
I say yes. I say he takes McMillon spot by the South Carolina game.

Was really impressed by him Saturday.


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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
I wanna see him in live action but he looked pretty damned comfortable doing his job Saturday. He kinda reminded me of the way Ragland played the middle.


Tw1st3d
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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
The sooner they can get Shane to the Mike ILB the better for both him and the team. He is a run stuffer like we have needed for a couple of years. Moses is better sideline-to-sideline and also better suited for Will ILB or Mack ILB.

I like what he showed in the spring game.


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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
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The sooner they can get Shane to the Mike ILB the better for both him and the team.

Unless he is the quickest study known to man in terms of being the signal caller... it will be at least another year.


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Unless he is the quickest study known to man in terms of being the signal caller... it will be at least another year.

He might be like Mack Wilson and never get it


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CrimsonBoz
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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
The good part is the Will doesn't have to make many calls at all. Moses will be busy doing that. So if they can learn as much as possible in 1 year maybe. But Mcmillon looked good in coverage which, was what I wanted to see.


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Evolved Simian
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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
Yes.

Next question.


tider04
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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
Was pleasantly surprised by both McMillon and Lee. Feel slightly better about ILB although I’d feel better if Moody, Benton or Kaho would take the next step and become legit SEC Backers so we have some depth there.


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prevatt33
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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
I watched Lee and all the ILBs closely. Lee will have a bright future at Mike. But he'll never be able to cover anybody except the RB out of the backfield, and therefore will never play Will.

McMillon won the Most Improved Player award, and I expect him to start and do well. It wouldn't surprise me, tho, if Moses switched back to Will while calling the defense and McMillon played Mike.

Also, if you watch closely, Lee played Mike the entire game. I never saw him play Will at all. If anyone beats out McMillon, it'd be Benton, although Benton looks lost in coverage and McMillon honestly looked pretty solid in coverage - never lost, always knew who his man was, etc.

Until further notice, our starting ILBs are Moses and McMillon, and the 2s aren't close. Just my 2 cents, and I know ILB.
This post was edited on 4/15 at 10:00 pm


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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
Kinda off topic, but how did you think Moses looked? I admittedly didn't pay close attention.
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Kinda off topic, but how did you think Moses looked? I admittedly didn't pay close attention.


I'm about halfway through my first rewatch, and I'm focusing on ILBs, and Moses looks good. He's filling run gaps without hesitation and flowing to the ball nicely. He drops his hips and gets into coverage quickly. However, as the Mike, his coverage responsibility is simple - cover the RB 95% of the time.

But Moses looked really, really good. Made a lot of tackles, and looked confident and in control.

Not that you asked, but I have also come away really impressed with McMillon. He's a big, physical guy and plays like it. He's not the most fluid guy in coverage, but his frame makes him rangy and he looked in position most of the day. I feel much better about our ILBs after Aday.

Both Moses and McMillan flowed to the ball well in the run game, but Moses made more tackles as McMillon's coverage responsibilities at Will necessitate him lining up frequently on the edge of the box or even outside it. Mike is almost always somewhere between the B gaps pre-snap. Will could be anywhere, even lined up on a slot WR or Split End.

Regarding Lee, he'll be great Mike in the future, but needs to absorb the playbook and maybe take some yoga to get flexible. He's a dog, though.

Regarding Benton, he looks to be a really nice athlete who moves well and flies around, but he's frequently not in position or confused. But when the light comes on for him, look out. He likes contact and plays active.

But to my eye, the 2s are way behind the 1s, and the 3s similarly so. Kaho needs to get bigger and made some huge busts in coverage. That Kendrick James TD was his fault, for example.

All in all, I feel much better than before Aday.
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Cobrasize
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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
Good. Our defense relies so much on the mike linebacker being able to make the proper calls and then just being able to react. Wilson really struggled with this last season. Hopefully, Moses will be able to transition to the mike position better.

The only concern I've ever had with Moses is that I believe he is genuinely a nice guy. You know better than anyone, when you play linebacker, you gotta have a split personality . That's my belief anyways.


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Wilson really struggled with this last season.


Wilson's first 2 years at Bama were excellent, but he struggled last year, when we had the worst Xs and Os defensive coaching staff under Saban. Hell, his position coach was shown the door immediately after the season.

Additionally, last year we had the worst secondary under Saban, except for maybe 2013, and this made both ILBs look bad. For example, in the 3rd quarter of the Louisville game, Louisville hit a nice crossing WR for a first down - maybe a 15 yard gain. And Herbstriet crucified Wilson on the replay, saying he busted his coverage. No sir, Mr. Herbstriet. That was Savion Smith's man, who, for whatever reason, loved to not follow his man across the field when we're obviously playing man. Granted, Louisville stacked the WRs on that play, but still. The only reason Wilson was even near the guy was because the RB ran a wheel route that took Wilson that way. Wilson's man was the RB, not the guy who caught the ball on the other side of the field.

I think we should cut Wilson some slack. He got blamed for a lot last year that wasn't quite his fault.


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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
I can't cut him much slack, but I agree the secondary was weak. S. Smith would have never seen the field with the usual Saban defense.

I don't believe Mack got very much help from the coaches on the sideline though. I saw Golding during Aday coaching the D while they were on the sideline. Reminded me of Pruitt. I can't remember Tosh doing much on the sideline last season

I have zero respect for Smith after the championship game.


prevatt33
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The only concern I've ever had with Moses is that I believe he is genuinely a nice guy.


I honestly only think that mean streak stuff matters on the Oline and DLine.

At ILB, you need to know the playbook like the back of your hand and live in the film room. You need to have every play dissected before the ball is even snapped, because if you are thinking post-snap, you're fricked. A good ILB plays on instinct as soon as the ball is snapped. Any hesitation or wrong step is a huge mistake.

I came away impressed with our starters. Now we just have to manufacture some depth. Right now, it looks like Lee is the 2nd Mike and Benton is the 2nd Will, but we'll cross-train and try to get the best guys on the field.

The real good news is that we're healthy and deep at OLB, our Dline looks to be deeper and getting better coaching/development, and our secondary looks nasty. All those pieces improving around the ILBs should help them tremendously.


prevatt33
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I have zero respect for Smith after the championship game.


Savion Smith is one of the few Bama players that I was happy to see leave the university. I think he was a cancer and a liability.


Cobrasize
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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
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I honestly only think that mean streak stuff matters on the Oline and DLine.

I agree with the Oline part, but I've always thought that the "special" linebackers had a crazy switch


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Cobrasize
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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
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Savion Smith is one of the few Bama players that I was happy to see leave the university. I think he was a cancer and a liability.

What was your opinion of his "injury"?

Personally, I believe he got embarrassed so he decided it was in his best interest to act injured.


prevatt33
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What was your opinion of his "injury"?

Personally, I believe he got embarrassed so he decided it was in his best interest to act injured.


I believe he knew he was declaring for the draft after the game. Every big play Clemson had, they went after his man - and his man was running free all night. They were picking on him and he knew it. I believe he knew how bad he was looking in that game, and how bad his draft stock would fall. I believe he faked the injury as soon as he was beat on the play, and he had premeditated faking it the next time he got torched badly. I believe he did it to quit putting so much bad on film for scouts.

I also expect him to go undrafted. His combine wasn't nearly good enough to make up for multiple red flags, both personally and on film.
This post was edited on 4/16 at 1:57 am


Cobrasize
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re: Is Shane Lee our next great LBer??
I agree with every damn thing you just said


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