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Is it ridiculous to think the game could’ve went the opposite direction?

Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:44 pm
It’s moot now but early in that game it felt like bama was actually dominating despite the pick 6. If we don’t throw that 2nd int I feel like we would’ve probably won comfortably. Just shows how small the difference (even in a one with a score as lopsided as that) can be in a game
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:47 pm to
Not with the way the defense was playing - no. Would it have probably put Alabama in a position to potentially win the game? I think you could make that argument. However, Alabama did nothing in the second half.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:47 pm to
Really hard to say - bama was dominating TOP, but once Lawrence settled in I think it was over defensively.

Bama maybe could have maybe won a shootout playing perfect ball control - but not with the way Tua played.

I don't think the d on the field really had much of a chance without a good edge rusher.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37561 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:47 pm to
I was optimistic starting the second half: We get the ball back and drive the field for a score and flip the script........ and then Smith got juked so hard he blew his ankle and hammy and my arse just quit at that point.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:49 pm to
Yes, I think so.
Posted by nb200016
Atlanta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
1282 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:50 pm to
Cash in on the redzone trips and you generate some pressure on them offensively that otherwise didn’t exist.

We’ll never know. But if you’re going to get into a shootout you’d better be sure your shots keep hitting home or you’re gonna get blasted.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:16 pm to
The pick 6 was just so awful, not just because it gave them points, but it gave their secondary confidence they could defend Tua. It relaxed them a little and let them just play. Remove that play from the game, and I think it's probably a really close game. Given hindsight and our defensive game plan though, I think they still win.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:22 pm to
The biggest play of the game to me was Tuas awful pick into double coverage that was a 6-10 pt swing before the half.

We were in position to go into half down 5/9 and getting the ball and instead we go in down 15. And them the cherry on top was the miserable red zone possession 1st possession of the 2nd half.

Just a disaster of a 15 minute stretch end of 2nd start of 3rd.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16437 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:24 pm to
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The biggest play of the game to me was Tuas awful pick into double coverage that was a 6-10 pt swing before the half.


Jacobs was just gashing their defense up until then too. I'll never understand the need to get cute instead of just making the other team stop what is working first
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:26 pm to
I mean - I don't think throwing the ball after like 5 straight runs is getting cute.

All tua had to do was dump it off and it was a huge gain. He was so focused on getting it all back in one play
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20750 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:28 pm to
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The pick 6 was just so awful


I think Lawrence is a hell of a QB, but I think he was a little rattled early on. My hope going in was that we would've gotten out in front early so that he would've had to play with some pressure. The pick 6 gave him some cushion to settle in.

I also think if we had punched it in at the start of the 2nd quarter instead of settling for a FG, then maybe Clemson starts to feel the pressure to keep up.

The final nail was Tua's second INT. We march on down the field there, who knows.

At the end of the day, Clemson was very confident, physical, and disciplined team. Once we started making mistakes, Clemson started leaning forward on us and it snowballed from there.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 4:29 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16437 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:31 pm to
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I mean - I don't think throwing the ball after like 5 straight runs is getting cute.


It wasn't just the decision to pass there. The play calling in the red zone on the fg drive before that was definitely getting too cute.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:33 pm to
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He was so focused on getting it all back in one play





That's been his mindset all year. Clemson knew it and game planned for it and baited him into that throw. If you watch the replay, you'll see Tua put his arms up thinking it was a TD. He never even looked for the safety after the snap. Didn't help that Jeudy ran a poor route.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:43 pm to
We gifted them a pick TD and pissed away 25 points on four drives where we reached 1st and goal but only scored 3 points total. 7 + 25 = 32. We lost by 28. And we threw a pick in the red zone on another drive. We could've (should've) won that game.

I was very disappointed in our defensive plan and calls. Venables did a great job with the variety of disguised blitzes. We were very vanilla, rushing 3 most of the time and showing our blitzes when we did call them. We made it easy for Clemson's offense. Our goal-to-go offensive play calling was very bad.

This loss was not like the final score. And it falls much more on a poor job of in-game coaching than on the players or anything else, imo.

Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20750 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:51 pm to
You've posted that same exact post 10 times already. We get it.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:56 pm to
We could not stop them. We’ve said it before to other teams there’s no pints awarded for yardage.
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 5:27 pm to
Yep there’s two plays that stick out for me. First the huge 60 yard pass on 3rd and 14 for Lawrence. Up to then you could tell he wasn’t comfortable and wasn’t throwing accurately. We busted miserably and allowed him to get going. And 2nd like SOG said the 2nd int. We were honestly dominating at that point. We had a good chance to be up at half and at the very worse be down a couple of points. Clemson was completely gassed and had no shot of stopping us. Sucks we lost composure after that because we still could’ve got back in it if we just could make the simple plays
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 5:32 pm
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18611 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:09 am to
I cant wrap my mind around Alabama winning time of possession, having more firstdowns, running more plays, 443 yards of offense, and managing to lose by FOUR TOUCHDOWNS.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44318 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:04 am to
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Not with the way the defense was playing - no. Would it have probably put Alabama in a position to potentially win the game? I think you could make that argument. However, Alabama did nothing in the second half.


We still moved the ball OK though. The defense was horrible, but two plays really defined that game. The false start on 2nd and goal from the 3 inch line that ultimately led to a FG and Tua throwing that stupid INT with a couple of minutes to go in the 1st half when we were down 21-16. If Wills doesn't commit his patented frick the entire team in the arse penalty and we keep gashing them on the ground and score, even a FG, with less than a minute to go in the half, we either have a 2 or 6 point lead and the ball to start the 3rd quarter. The second half is a totally different animal if we have a lead instead of being down 12.
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