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moester75
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In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
After seeing Coach Croom on Finebaum I thought this wold make a decent offseason thread. I’m generation x and I was a serious Croom guy. Coach Bryant’s favorite Center and the recruiting he could have done in Tuscaloosa would have been great to see. It was a win/win for me because they’re both Bama men but I definitely would have preferred Croom.


pvilleguru
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
Had zero opinion. Was just glad someone was willing to come.
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phil4bama
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
Neither. Butch Davis was available and could have probably been talked into the job. Of the two, I would have preferred Croom.


JustGetItRight
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
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Had zero opinion. Was just glad someone was willing to come.


This. We were a shait show.

I will never speak ill of Shula because he was willing to come home with the mess we had.
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moester75
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
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Neither, Butch Davis was available


This is just rumor, but I was told back then by someone that isn’t usually full of dung that Butch Davis was very motivated about coming to Bama but Tubberville and Fulmer got a third party to get word to Davis that we were getting more ncaa heat. Scared Davis away.


paperwasp
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
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This. We were a shait show.

Remember when Dennis Franchione urged us to "hold the rope?" I was still holding it when he bolted.

Then Mike Price showed up and met his Destiny in Pensacola.

Enter Mike Shula. Like the other posters, I was just happy to have a coach at that point.


paperwasp
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
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This is just rumor, but I was told back then by someone that isn’t usually full of dung that Butch Davis was very motivated about coming to Bama but Tubberville and Fulmer got a third party to get word to Davis that we were getting more ncaa heat. Scared Davis away.

Really? That's interesting.

Guess it eventually worked out okay.


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PCRammer
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
I was Team Croom. That being said I appreciate MS coming here to get us through those years


moester75
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
Yes I’ll always love Mike Shula as a QB and our HC. He came and helped us when we were in the gutter and gave it his best shot. He almost pulled Tebow too.


RescueT
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
Ha! Thank goodness he didn’t. May have missed out on Saban. Tebow alone could have won a SEC championship. The man loved competition and thrived when his back was against the wall. Honestly one of my favorite competitors of all time.


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paperwasp
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
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He almost pulled Tebow too

That right there would've been the linchpin that ruined it.

I think if Shula would've pulled Tebow out of Nease (and apparently he was really close), he probably would've gotten another year or two, and we never get Saban.

I believe Shula had wanted to use him similar to a Michael Vick type, whereas Urban Meyer was running a spread offense similar to what Tebow had already had in high school.


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CapstoneGrad06
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
I had an art history final that spring semester and the bonus question was who we wanted to replace Mike Price and why? I answered Croom because he had more experience at recruiting. I still stand by it. But he likely lasts longer than Shula and we don’t get Saban. So it worked out for the best.


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CapstoneGrad06
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
Butch Davis was after the Alabama job about three times. Beamer at least twice.


SummerOfGeorge
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
As others have said, neither really, though because neither was all that great I leaned towards Croom because of how awesome it would have been to have the first black coach in the SEC at Alabama (and have him be an Alabama - Tuscaloosa guy). But, there was no good option. They were both very similar in that they were NFL guys who hadn't been in college ever or in a long time with Alabama connections who would not have been hired at any other Top 25 program.

I'm glad it was Shula, because firing Croom with Shula's resume NEVER would have worked. It would have been a publicity nightmare.
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moester75
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
SOG you know me in a past life on here buddy and from Volquest. I agree with everything you said but I truly believe Croom would have recruited pretty well even with the ncaa crap. Coach Croom would have killed it in the living rooms and dens with the mamas, dads, and recruits.


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moester75
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
Frank Beamer turned us down buddy I’m pretty sure.

ETA: I’m thinking Bama would have taken Davis and Beamer over Shula if what you’re saying is true. Beamer got a nice raise off of us and a bunch of other coaches used us to get pay raises too.
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Cobrasize
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
I didn’t want either, but no one else would take the job. Basically just throw the two names in a hat and whoever you pull out, gets the job.


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imjustafatkid
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
I wasn't really paying attention back then.


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CapstoneGrad06
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
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Frank Beamer turned us down buddy I’m pretty sure.


In 1997 and 2000. But he still had his name out there. That was my point.


RollTide1987
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re: In 2003 were you a Croom or Shula advocate?
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Had zero opinion.


Ditto.

After the Mike Price fiasco it wasn't like people were beating down the door to coach Alabama. The only thing I was sure of is the person we did hire would be a sacrificial lamb that would (likely) be fired as soon as we emerged from the other side of probation.



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