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If Saban's successor has this run in his first 5 seasons, are you happy?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:38 am
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:38 am
- 79% overall win (78% SEC win)
- 4 Top 10 Finishes
- 2 Top 5 Finishes
- 3 SEC West "Titles"
- 1 SEC Title
- 1 Playoff
- 0 National Titles
- 11-4 vs Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Assuming it wasn't a great first year and slow drop off the next 4. Assume basically even success over the 5 years.
Happy or not happy?
- 4 Top 10 Finishes
- 2 Top 5 Finishes
- 3 SEC West "Titles"
- 1 SEC Title
- 1 Playoff
- 0 National Titles
- 11-4 vs Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Assuming it wasn't a great first year and slow drop off the next 4. Assume basically even success over the 5 years.
Happy or not happy?
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 11:40 am
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
I feel like this is another coaches record and you are setting us up. Maybe Malzon?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:47 am to Remiden
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I feel like this is another coaches record and you are setting us up. Maybe Malzon?
It really isn't a setup, but yes it is from another coach.
Not Malzahn - Malzahn had a 67% win, 63% SEC win and 1 Top 5 finish (2 Top 10).
He also was 4-7 against Alabama and Georgia over that stretch (6-10 vs Bama, Georgia, LSU)
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 11:49 am
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:54 am to SummerOfGeorge
Kurby?
But to answer your question, if there was a consistent decline each year i would not be happy. I would rather hope for a drop off in year 2, but by year 4 it is getting back on track. I would even expect year 2 and 3 to drop off some, but not after that.
But to answer your question, if there was a consistent decline each year i would not be happy. I would rather hope for a drop off in year 2, but by year 4 it is getting back on track. I would even expect year 2 and 3 to drop off some, but not after that.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:59 am to Remiden
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Kurby
Yep
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I would rather hope for a drop off in year 2, but by year 4 it is getting back on track. I would even expect year 2 and 3 to drop off some, but not after that.
Agree - that is why I added in that last part about it being an even 5 years, not a start hot with Saban's old stuff in place and then decline year by year.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Happy or not happy?
I would riot on the streets of Tuscaloosa.
Or at least peacefully protest.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
If the 2 SECCG Losses and Playoff loss aren’t blowouts then yes. We need to feel like a true contender and not the Notre Dame teams that made the playoffs
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:21 pm to Glorious
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If the 2 SECCG Losses and Playoff loss aren’t blowouts then yes. We need to feel like a true contender and not the Notre Dame teams that made the playoffs
Agree - I think that's definitely a big part of it.
I think most will be understanding that we aren't going to win national titles every other year, in all likelihood, once Saban leaves. I do think the next guy has to be a legitimate Top 5-7 program that competes for them, though. And one whose teams, even when they don't win them, are competitive and just aren't quite good enough in the years they don't win them.
With what he will be left in terms of roster, infrastructure, etc.......that's a reasonable request, I think.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Bama will be fine. Dabo will come to Bama when his new contract expires
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:27 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Happy or not happy?
It just depends on the circumstances. If they're competitive in the playoff games, recruiting continues at a high level, and those 4 losses aren't to the same team (particularly the one in west Georgia) then yeah I'd be pretty content.
If they're backdooring into SECCGs only to get their teeth kicked in by whomever won the east and Aubie's taking those "fear the thumb" shirts out of mothballs then it's time for another brick through the window.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:28 pm to JustGetItRight
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It just depends on the circumstances. If they're competitive in the playoff games, recruiting continues at a high level, and those 4 losses aren't to the same team (particularly the one in west Georgia) then yeah I'd be pretty content.
If they're backdooring into SECCGs only to get their teeth kicked in by whomever won the east and Aubie's taking those "fear the thumb" shirts out of mothballs then it's time for another brick through the window.
Amen
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:29 pm to TideSaint
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Or at least peacefully protest.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:30 pm to JustGetItRight
Agree with that. If we're a legitimate top 5 program that simply isn't as consistent in big games as we were under Saban I'd be frustrated with it but I'd also accept it. If we're winning by default (LSU and Auburn are a mess and Aggy continues underachieving most years) and getting our asses handed to us in Atlanta and/or the playoff ala Notre Dame or Oklahoma I'd be a lot less accepting of it.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I will need at least 3 national championships
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:28 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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I will need at least 3 national championships
Or else........RIOT
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
If he leaves with an equal amount of talent on the roster as now, I’d expect something pretty damn close to a NC in the first 3 years.
Similar to what LSU did after Saban left.
Similar to what LSU did after Saban left.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 2:06 pm to Remiden
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Kurby?
Say you're from the country without saying you're from the country.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 2:19 pm to ReauxlTide222
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If he leaves with an equal amount of talent on the roster as now, I’d expect something pretty damn close to a NC in the first 3 years.
Similar to what LSU did after Saban left.
That's what I keep going back to. And Saban is going to leave a better all around roster and better infastructure here than he did there.
Les literally rode that roster to 3 of his 4 best seasons (2011 being the outlier).
Les the first 3 seasons with the Saban Remnants
- 34-6 (19-5 SEC) (85% overall, 79% SEC)
- 3 of 3 Top 10 finishes
- 3 of 3 Top 5 finishes
- 1 National title out of 3 chances
- 1 SEC Title out of 3 chances
- 2 SEC West Titles out of 3 chances
Les the 9 seasons post-Saban Remnants
- 80-28 (43-23 SEC) (74% overall, 65% SEC)
- 2 out of 9 Top 10 Finishes
- 1 out of 9 Top 5 Finishes
- 0 National Title out of 9 chances
- 1 SEC Title out of 9 chances
- 1 SEC West Title out of 9 chances
Les averaged basically 2 additional losses a season once Saban's players and infrastructure went away.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 6/2/21 at 2:21 pm to UASports23
Coach Bowlcut is having to carry all that weight from that 1980 thing with him and that is heavy. He is doing a really good job.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 2:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I've accepted that the first guy through the door is likely going to be cannon fodder. Possible Larry Coker situation.
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