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If Bama didn't have Sarkisian in waiting, would Nick have let go Kiffin so abruptly?
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:21 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:21 am
I'm thinking no.
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:26 am to East Coast Band
Have any reporters ever asked Nick what he thinks of Kiffin's twitter trolls? Surely someone has brought it to his attention. Just curious if he has ever acknowledged it publicly.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:27 am to East Coast Band
Bobby was for sure the 3rd man up 
Our Special Teams may have been shite but that offense would have been fire.
Our Special Teams may have been shite but that offense would have been fire.Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:31 am to East Coast Band
I've read rumors where Kiffin had used up all patience. Supposedly Kiffin had to be given IVs the day of the Washington game due his late night partying. Again rumors, I've seen nothing but internet boards discussing, but supposedly Kiffin was calling plays that were not part of the Bama playbook.
Sark supposedly had troubles calling plays in the championship game.
Again, unsubstantiated rumors. I have NO inside info. Maybe someone with actual knowledge/connections could comment or kill the rumor.
Sark supposedly had troubles calling plays in the championship game.
Again, unsubstantiated rumors. I have NO inside info. Maybe someone with actual knowledge/connections could comment or kill the rumor.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:46 am to BamaReb
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Sark supposedly had troubles calling plays in the championship game.
This isn't a rumor. This is fact.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:04 am to East Coast Band
Saban should have not gotten rid of Kiffin before the CFP National Championship Game. Yes, he may have had a bad offensive game plan vs Washington but we won and Sark was not the right choice again Clemson. Kiffin should have stayed then left after the game against Clemson
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:27 am to biggsc
It wouldn't have mattered who the OC was, we weren't winning that game with the injuries and the poor play by Hurts & receivers, particularly in second half.
Also Watson wasn't going to be denied.
Also Watson wasn't going to be denied.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:41 am to biggsc
Our gameplan against Washington was fine. The problem was quarterback play. Hurts probably had his worst performance of the year in that game. That defense and Bo going beastmode is the only reason we won that game.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:06 am to Sneaky__Sally
quote:what? Dude, we win that game if we run the ball and eat clock. There would have been no time for a last drive. They were not stopping our running game yet we got away from it when bo got hurt. No reason to change the plays with frigging Harris right there
It wouldn't have mattered who the OC was, we weren't winning that game with the injuries and the poor play by Hurts & receivers, particularly in second half.
Also Watson wasn't going to be denied.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 11:07 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:56 am to narddogg81
The game plan against Washington was the sorriest excuse for an offense I've seen in the post season since Saban has been here. Should have been 38-7 at least and offensive line was inconsistent
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:57 am to Commander Data
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Our gameplan against Washington was fine. The problem was quarterback play. Hurts probably had his worst performance of the year in that game. That defense and Bo going beastmode is the only reason we won that game.
I vehemently disagree with #1. Hell, Kiffin was calling plays that we hadn't practiced in months which led to 2 delay of game penalties where Bozeman came to the sideline throwing his hands up in the air screaming at people.
Our Washington gameplan was a hodge podge of garbage. Now, Jalen was not very good, I agree with that, but the playcalling and scheming was awful. How many dumb arse rollouts to the short side of the field against a team with 4 legit NFL DBs did we run?
They didn't stop us running the football for 3 quarters and we didn't decide to force the issue until the 4th.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:03 pm to Bamainva40
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The game plan against Washington was the sorriest excuse for an offense I've seen in the post season since Saban has been here. Should have been 38-7 at least and offensive line was inconsistent
Worse then Clemson game?
Both were horrific, but not running the ball and the hurry up killed us. Our defense was solid, until they had nothing left.
Both were bad though.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:10 pm to phaz
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Worse then Clemson game? Both were horrific, but not running the ball and the hurry up killed us. Our defense was solid, until they had nothing left.
I think they were equally bad. I think Clemson was a bit better, but not much. Jalen missed/receivers dropped at least 4-5 3rd down throws that would have been 1sts against Clemson. Washington was just a total cluster of fvck.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
@ nobody in particluar:
Our game plan and play calling for 3.3 quarters vs Clemson was great. Then Bo broke his leg. The offense was shocked for a couple of drives and played like shite. We tried running but it didn't work. Sark tried to open it up to get a spark, but he forgot to go back to the run once we got our heads out of our asses a few drives later. That was his only mistake.
If Bo doesn't break his leg, we win another championship last year.
Our game plan and play calling for 3.3 quarters vs Clemson was great. Then Bo broke his leg. The offense was shocked for a couple of drives and played like shite. We tried running but it didn't work. Sark tried to open it up to get a spark, but he forgot to go back to the run once we got our heads out of our asses a few drives later. That was his only mistake.
If Bo doesn't break his leg, we win another championship last year.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:37 pm to prevatt33
I agree... Clemson was fine , the drunk just panicked and forgot he had 2 other backs after bo got hurt
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:57 pm to biggsc
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Saban should have not gotten rid of Kiffin before the CFP National Championship Game. Yes, he may have had a bad offensive game plan vs Washington but we won and Sark was not the right choice again Clemson. Kiffin should have stayed then left after the game against Clemson
I hate when other people use his line because it’s a cliche, but I’m going to use it anyway: I trust Saban with making that call.
Nick Saban is a risk adverse coach. He doesn’t make a move like that unless he absolutely has to. Would it have been great to have Kiffin drawing up plays in the dirt in the 4th Quarter? Absolutely. However I believe the rumors that Kiffin had become a liability at that point and it left Saban with no choice. The gameplan and playcalling for Washington was atrocious. If that is what we were going to see against Clemson then I think Saban made the right move.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:03 pm to prevatt33
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@ nobody in particluar:
Our game plan and play calling for 3.3 quarters vs Clemson was great. Then Bo broke his leg. The offense was shocked for a couple of drives and played like shite. We tried running but it didn't work. Sark tried to open it up to get a spark, but he forgot to go back to the run once we got our heads out of our asses a few drives later. That was his only mistake.
If Bo doesn't break his leg, we win another championship last year.
All of this
Like I said in my first post, don't think it was an OC / Kiffin vs. Sark - Injuries caught up with us against an incredible qb and strong team. Eddie Jackson or SDH in that game plays makes a difference in my mind, Bo clearly not getting hurt makes a difference - but injuries are a part of it.
Also Harris wasn't the same back he is this year. I think we should have tried to run more after we got over the shock of Bo's injury, i'm not sure if that would have continued to have the same success we had with Bo or not - momentum had swung to Clemson by that time and Watson was on fire.
As others said, we had dropped balls by receivers - and a true freshman qb who looked like he got rattled a bit on the big stage. Lots of factors come in to play in a game that close.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:16 pm to Sneaky__Sally
I do hate the narrative that only the offense is responsible for the loss against Clemson. It was def many factors.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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How many dumb arse rollouts to the short side of the field
Hmmmmm...
Almost deja vu in the Iron bowl huh?
I wonder what is the common denominator here?
Posted on 12/5/17 at 4:28 pm to prevatt33
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Our game plan and play calling for 3.3 quarters vs Clemson was great
Totally disagree. They were already getting thoroughly dominated in the time of possession.
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We tried running but it didn't work.
Wasn't there like one rushing attempt in the entire fourth quarter?
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