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re: Hugh Freeze Spotted in T-Town
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:05 am to Silverback
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:05 am to Silverback
I was very open to Kiffin. I am pretty hesitant on Freeze. And that’s just the personal character stuff. NCAA issues. Etc.
Aside from that, I’m not sold on the offense Freeze has used. It gave Alabama fits, but that doesn’t mean it will beat utilize Alabama’s offense talent. Keeping its identity of the last decade.
Aside from that, I’m not sold on the offense Freeze has used. It gave Alabama fits, but that doesn’t mean it will beat utilize Alabama’s offense talent. Keeping its identity of the last decade.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:50 am to CapstoneGrad06
Seriously doubt it’s for OC. Maybe taking Winkie’s old spot.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:53 am to hwyman108
Weinke is believed to still be with Alabama.
But there are other analyst positions.
But there are other analyst positions.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:57 am to CapstoneGrad06
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I’m not sold on the offense Freeze has used. It gave Alabama fits, but that doesn’t mean it will beat utilize Alabama’s offense talent. Keeping its identity of the last decade.
Yep. His running game was always abysmal and he had real problems in short yardage situations. He is pretty much the exact opposite of what has brought Bama to five titles in nine years (and one second short of a sixth). Pick his brain on concepts? Sure. OC? No way. I have a hard time even seeing him as a consultant,
One more thought - Freeze has made no secret of the fact that he desperately wants a job, so it isn't outside the realm of possibility that he invited himself to town.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:57 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Keeping its identity of the last decade.
Our identity has changed quite a bit over the last decade.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:07 am to pvilleguru
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Our identity has changed quite a bit over the last decade.
Not in the fundamental strategic goal of the offense. The window dressing is certainly different. We've gone from a traditional under center formation to a pistol/shotgun with some up-tempo thrown in but we still want to run the football, control the pace of the game, and minimize turnovers by minimizing risk.
Freeze does none of that.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:25 am to RunLikeGump
Taking a chance on Hugh Freeze might make sense if you were a desperate program. Alabama should be able to get plenty of coaching talent without the baggage. Just don't understand why Alabama would go that route - they don't have to.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:32 am to hwyman108
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Seriously doubt it’s for OC.
Freeze probably just in to do some consulting. Taking a fresh look at the offense and provide some recommendations and ideas.
I know Saban had lot of respect for the offenses he put on the field. I would be shocked if this were a permanent thing although he did hire Lane.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:42 am to 14&Counting
I think an analyst role makes a lot of sense. It's a chance for Freeze to get back involved (and at the top program in the nation) and then in a year or two from now have a chance to move up either within or by being hired elsewhere.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:42 am to Bolivar Shagnasty
Actually, I may not have an issue with him as an analyst - after the signing period.
Locksley’s record as a coach is underwhelming to say the least. Not sure if he is the answer - you can’t go by what players want. If he goes to Florida as the OC, so what? We all know it is for recruiting only, not for being an offensive genius. Mullen calls his own plays and runs what he wants.
Locksley’s record as a coach is underwhelming to say the least. Not sure if he is the answer - you can’t go by what players want. If he goes to Florida as the OC, so what? We all know it is for recruiting only, not for being an offensive genius. Mullen calls his own plays and runs what he wants.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:42 am to Bham4Tide
Analysts don't recruit so what difference does it make when he comes on board?
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:50 am to Bham Bammer
I would be fine with Freeze as an off the field analyst. We did give Sark that role and he fricked up worse than Freeze did.....
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:53 am to pvilleguru
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Our identity has changed quite a bit over the last decade.
Not really. A physical style of play is still what Saban wants. The ability to control the clock and run the football. And above all, discipline.
Five wide on 3 and 1 has never been Alabama's identity. And it never will under Saban.
Now adjusting to the modern RPO, read, and other spread philosophies was necessary. But you can marry those concepts with the traditional pro-style.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:55 am to Bham4Tide
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If he goes to Florida as the OC, so what? We all know it is for recruiting only, not for being an offensive genius. Mullen calls his own plays and runs what he wants.
It is Florida State that has been interested in him. Florida came after him last offseason when Jim McElwain was still there. But I get your point.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:56 am to Bham Bammer
I know, if hired, he can't recruit. I'm just not sure I would want him on staff before then. Recruiting can get ugly and he is a very, very easy target.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:58 am to 14&Counting
In an analyst capacity only! But HF was available during the regular season and Saban didn't bring him in as an analyst, so why now?
Saban wants top shelf recruiters on his staff - he'd never be able to trust Freeze on the recruiting trail. Is HF even allowed to recruit under the NCAA restrictions he under?
I have a hard time seeing Hugh's ego allowing him to work under a demanding hard arse like Saban.
Saban wants top shelf recruiters on his staff - he'd never be able to trust Freeze on the recruiting trail. Is HF even allowed to recruit under the NCAA restrictions he under?
I have a hard time seeing Hugh's ego allowing him to work under a demanding hard arse like Saban.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:33 am to RT1941
I think Saban will make the right decision, Freeze is legit and really beat Bama when we had far superior teams, I'm not one to judge and personally dont care about the baggage but I do agree his running game was dodo and he struggled on short yardage.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:38 am to RT1941
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In an analyst capacity only! But HF was available during the regular season and Saban didn't bring him in as an analyst, so why now?
I don't think there's necessarily a cap to the amount of analysts Alabama employs, but they have seemed to keep two offensive and two defensive analyst. Those were filled before Freeze was let go at Ole Miss last summer.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:53 am to CapstoneGrad06
Saban wasn't bringing him before the NCAA matter was settled anyway.
If he received a show cause, wouldn't be at Bama even as an analyst.
If he received a show cause, wouldn't be at Bama even as an analyst.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:55 am to phaz
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Saban wasn't bringing him before the NCAA matter was settled anyway.
If he received a show cause, wouldn't be at Bama even as an analyst.
This is very true as well.
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