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How do you fellas feel about the new transfer rule ?

Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:11 am
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4636 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:11 am
It could be in full effect by the summer. I'm not a fan of this at all. Take Mac Jones and Bryce Young for instance. I don't think Young will unseat Jones. Jones is too good. What if Jones decides to stay another year and Young has to sit the bench for another season ? Then Young decides he's out and transfers ? Even Tua had mentioned he might have transferred had he not got to play in the championship vs Georgia. Bama is one of, if not the best school at recruiting qb's and usually having a couple on the roster who are legit starters.

I think we'll see a change in schollys offered and keeping some in reserve for transfers. What do you guys think ?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:23 am to
I don't think it went far enough, but it's a good start.
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:31 am to
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I don't think it went far enough, but it's a good start.


Shocker that you feel that way..lol

Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:33 am to
I think it will be a total disaster but this pay for likeness was already going to be too. NCAA is like the government.. when they get involved it all ways goes to shite. The programs are always abused and never work out like they were planned
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:46 am to
Until they allow players to profit from their name, then yes, I'm going to be in favor of freedom of movement without repercussions.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4636 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:49 am to
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The programs are always abused and never work out like they were planned


I agree. The best recruiting schools will be poached more and more imo unless the players are in it for a chance at a championship.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4636 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:50 am to
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Until they allow players to profit from their name, then yes, I'm going to be in favor of freedom of movement without repercussions.


Sometimes the can left unopened is better.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:10 am to
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Sometimes the can left unopened is better.
For who?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75822 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:13 am to
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Shocker that you feel that way..lol


He's a liberal. Thinking clearly is not his strong suit.

ETA: But hey, that's his choice. Doing survey work on the side of the road is tough.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 7:16 am
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4636 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:18 am to
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For who?


The sport of college football as a whole. This ain't hard.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12212 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:28 am to
Will hurt Bama's depth. Freshman will be transferring like crazy if they don't play year 1.

Just think of the players Bama could have lost over the years had players been able to transfer and play right away.

Henry, Tua, Ragland, Foster, N Harris, Humphrey just to name a few. Pretty much any Bama player that became great, but didn't play much their freshman year.
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11645 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:31 am to
I'm one of the few people who reads this completely different than most so it is possible I'm reading it wrong but I think the rule would help schools way more than transfers if the rules are adhered to which are these:

• Receive a transfer release from their previous school;

• Leave their previous school academically eligible;

• Maintain their academic progress at the new school; and

• Leave under no disciplinary suspension

The important requirement is the transfer release. Unless I'm mistaken a player can't be eligible immediately without their current school allowing it. If the school doesn't grant the waiver they go through the current system.

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I've thought about this and I actually think this might end up working in favor of the schools as much if not more than the players. Hear me out. While the headlines indicate this is for all players it really isn't, this is really centered around the NCAA avoiding judging hardship transfer cases for immediate eligibility. Under this, if the school grants the release the player is eligible next year, if they don't the player sits a year. With it being in the hands of the school I actually believe you will see less releases granted. I doubt Saban or most of these other coaches are going to grant a release unless it is absolutely necessary. These smaller schools aren't going to grant releases to players who want to go to better programs and there isn't going to be any public outcry if UAB, Buffalo, or USF doesn't grant a kid a release to go play at a better school immediately.

On the flipside, say you have an underperforming player-you are frustrated they aren't producing and they are frustrated because they can't get on the field. However they are a sophomore and while they would like to transfer to a school they might be able to see the field they definitely won't play because they have to sit out a year so they decide to stay because it isn't worth it. Now you have a scholarship that is being used by a non productive player and it is unlikely this kid will ever see the field for you. If you grant them the release then if I'm not mistaking you get the scholarship back if they find a transfer school and they get a chance to play.


Maybe I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 7:34 am
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4636 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:52 am to
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Maybe I'm wrong.


I think this is where you will see less committable offers extended. Still as whole, I'm not in favor of it.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:04 am to
quote:

How do you fellas feel about the new transfer rule ?

NCAA considering 1 transfer with no penalty for all sports
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11645 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:32 am to
I would think it would be the same or more if you are trying to replace underperforming transfers.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12613 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:32 am to
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For who?


This rule doesn’t benefit upperclassmen. It may force coaches to play guys with more potential over better upperclassmen.

We already saw this with Fromm and Fields at UGA. Fields didn’t even know the playbook. He would turn the wrong way to hand the ball off. Kirby still would throw him in there because he knew he had to try to keep him around.

Also, every transfer that leaves to get playing time, takes playing time away from a guy at the school they go to. A guy may choose to sign with a school because he’s the best at his position in their class. A year later he’s poised to start only to have several guys transfer in that take his spot.

Is it fair to Tate Martell that he had to transfer to Miami? No doubt Urban told him he was their top QB in that class, but when Justin Fields can instantly transfer in, Martell gets the shaft.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 8:37 am
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:38 am to
The NCAA is going to destroy it's sports just to keep these kids from making external income. These frivolous rule changes are done to appease the athletes in lieu of allowing external income.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:45 am to
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 It could be in full effect by the summer. 


I don't think this is accurate. I believe this new potential legislation is being discussed for 2021, not 2020.

Personally, I have no problem with it. There are only 5 collegiate sports that limit transfers - the rest can transfer just like any student. Personally, I believe allowing everyone to transfer freely is best for the sport so that the rules are uniform for everyone.

But remember, transferring is still limited by the fact that the destination school still has to have scholarship space. Scholarship limits will always hold down the total transfers significantly.

Furthermore, I believe it's better for the sport if benchwarmers can go get on the field elsewhere. Let the kids play, and let fans be entertained by those guys.

Either way, the Alabamas of the world will always benefit, so there's no reason to get upset. Under the new transfer rule, we'll always pick up better guys than the guys who leave, as we'll be exchanging guys who couldn't cut it for guys who can.

I can't see any possible downside for a team like Alabama.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:50 am to
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The NCAA is going to destroy it's sports just to keep these kids from making external income.


For the record, the NCAA doesn't create rules and never has. It ENFORCES the rules created by ADs, Presidents, and other governing bodies.

One big problem now is the fact that the NCAA has trouble enforcing the much of the CFB rule code, as it's beyond archaic and longer than you can possibly imagine. On a podcast, Tom Hart said the NCAA administrative code makes the IRS tax code look like a children's book. This new legislation simply takes a giant chunk off the NCAA's plate, which the transfer portal became. They just don't have the manpower to handle the portal in its current form. It's crazy.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12613 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:51 am to
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I believe it's better for the sport if benchwarmers can go get on the field elsewhere. Let the kids play, and let fans be entertained by those guys.


Those guys take the spots of other guys though.

This doesn’t benefit players. I think it’s very unfair to a guy who has waited his turn to start that the coach is now incentivized to bench him in favor of a worse player with more potential.
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