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re: Here we go again: Coronavirus is ‘out of control’ in Alabama, warns health official

Posted on 11/19/20 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75837 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 8:21 pm to
A guy I work with found out he had it this morning. Someone asked what his symptoms were and he said he got a little winded on the last rep of his deadlift set in his garage gym.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30008 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 8:47 pm to
Positive test results mean nothing.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16976 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:04 pm to
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At some point people have to stop freaking out over "cases."

Tell me how many people under 70 with no other serious health issues are dying from Covid, then I'll decide the appropriate level of freakout.

I'd hate to see the reaction over something that had less than a 99.7% recovery rate.



Exactly
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3732 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:13 pm to
anybody heard the latest numbers on false positives? how about the numbers on asymptomatic people? it's all about "new cases" now. scare tactics imho.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:22 pm to
Yes, it is out of control. It’s now spreading exponentially and it’s not going to stop without extreme lockdown measures, herd immunity, or vaccination. But it’s also true that we’ve got a better handle on it now and while it’s not something you want to ignore, you’re probably going to survive it.

So let’s all accept the fact that it’s very likely we’re all going to get COVID19 and there will be a couple of people that will succumb to it. And another handful will have lasting effects from it. But the rest of us will recover and resume normal lives. Just like we do when we catch the flu or pneumonia or the measles. And we do it without a lockdown and without destroying our economy and our way of life.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 9:24 pm
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:41 pm to
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Alabama has reported some 225,910 cases of COVID-19 to date


Alabama has a state population of 4.9M people. If 225,910 of them have had the virus to date, that would mean nearly 5% of the entire state has Covid or has had Covid.

Do you honestly think 1 in 20 people has had this? That seems very high to me.
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7036 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:26 pm to
Keep on watching the news and keep on wringing those soft hands.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22511 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:37 pm to
Where I live, the count has been about around 30-50 cases per day for the last 2 months in a county of 400K people. Yet if you hear some people talk, you’d think we’re having a 1000 cases per day.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24463 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:38 pm to
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Do you honestly think 1 in 20 people has had this? That seems very high to me.


I can believe it very easily from what I’ve seen at my workplace, relatives workplaces, and my church. Now only a handful of these cases have been to the point where oxygen was required and there was serious worry about their recovery, but it’s definitely knocked a decent amount of folks on their asses for a few days.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13926 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 6:15 am to
So, here is my question as it pertains to the Crimson Tide and not the general healthcare sector: Will the University tell the students to stay at home after Thanksgiving? Many schools have sent that message and it appears to me it's the best scenario for actually finishing the season and allowing basketball season to survive.

Get the kids off-campus and we have a bubble of sorts. We can isolate and control with perhaps enough efficiency to combat the spiking numbers. If The SEC Universities have the sense to send all students home and we can get past this Holiday, it would seem we have a fighting chance.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 6:23 am to
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Alabama has reported some 225,910 cases of COVID-19 to date, according to data from the state health department. The rolling daily average of new cases has increased over the past two weeks to 684, representing a 50% jump. Current estimates show that one in every 342 people in the state has tested positive for the virus in the past week alone.


NC hit a new high of over 4000cases yesterday and our current rolling average is 2865 a day for the weekly average.

Our current positive test rate is at 8.3% but there are only 1501 people in the hospital currently across the state for the virus. Not sure if that is low or high in contrast but seems low to the number of people testing.

I still believe the increase in numbers has a lot to do with with testing now compared to the first 4 or 5 months of the virus. Unless you had trouble breathing or something severe you will told to just stay home and quarantine. There was very limited access to testing for the most part around the country. Now people go through the drive thru at some pharmacy daily. So I truly believe the numbers in the spring and early summer were just as high if not close.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24463 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 6:24 am to
Students will be off campus through thanksgiving and Christmas. Not sure when classes start again in person in January.

ETA: I should add, classes will be online. That doesn’t mean kids staying in Tuscaloosa off campus have to go home though.
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 6:25 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 6:27 am to
Another interesting note here in NC is according to the new state county tracking system the counties listed as critical for cases are the rural counties. All the counties in the state with the largest cities are showing the lowest increases for the rolling average and daily new cases.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 6:28 am to
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Students will be off campus through thanksgiving and Christmas. Not sure when classes start again in person in January.

ETA: I should add, classes will be online. That doesn’t mean kids staying in Tuscaloosa off campus have to go home though.




Same here at UNC with classes to start near the end of January.
Posted by Judah Mann
Houston Area
Member since Aug 2016
2033 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 6:39 am to
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You are by far the most negative and miserable person on this site. I don’t know how you get the nerve up to walk outside of your house. A plane might fall on you or a rabid coyote might bite you.


Actually, you aren't too far off. Statistics show you are far more likely to die driving to your local supermarket that from corona flu.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:05 am to
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While only 14% of the intensive care beds in state hospitals are empty and a few people are beginning to show up with the flu, fewer COVID-19 patients are requiring ICU space because of improvements in treatments, Williamson said. Of roughly 1,400 intensive care beds that were in use statewide Tuesday, only 368 were filled by COVID-19 patients.


Seems ok to me. This article is BS. “Flatten the curve” was to buy time for the hospitals to prepare and for treatments to develop, and what do you know that’s happened. The number of cases don’t matter, they’re going to happen until there’s a vaccine, it’s the treatments that matter.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:16 am to
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It's not effective at all.

It's asinine to believe a piece of fabric is going to keep you from getting it.


If you go back and read my posts you'll see I'm far from a mask flag waver but this simply isn't true.

They help . If you sneeze without a mask, you'll throw snot and 'rona all across the room. That little piece of fabric will knock that down to a foot or two.

From the start, the biggest problem with masks is that the places we need them most isn't where we'll wear them - and that's when we spend vast amounts of time around those closest to us. We don't wear them there because (1) we inherently trust those people and (2) it's our home.

I'm a prime example. I'm an EMT that works on an ambulance. I've been in close proximity well beyond 15 minutes with a bunch of known positives. We wore masks, put masks on the patient and I never caught Rona. I was off the truck for a few days, hadn't been on a call in almost 2 weeks (or even so much as out to eat), and both me and my wife caught Rona. There's no way to be sure, but it's very likely we got it from her sister - an elementary school teacher from Atlanta who was visiting a few days before we tested positive and herself tested positive a day before us.

The new problem is that now people are simply tired of wearing them. Go to Wal-Mart and maybe 25% of the people are wearing masks.

So, that's a lot of words to say that the truth is in the middle. Masks, because of the times they aren't EVER going to be worn, aren't going to be as effective as their champions hope but on the other hand to say they do no good is to ignore what can be proven by simply putting one on and trying to spit.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8507 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:20 am to
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Do you honestly think 1 in 20 people has had this? That seems very high to me.
quote:

I can believe it very easily from what I’ve seen at my workplace, relatives workplaces, and my church. Now only a handful of these cases have been to the point where oxygen was required and there was serious worry about their recovery, but it’s definitely knocked a decent amount of folks on their asses for a few days.
Yeah, pretty much this. It spreads incredibly quickly. Saw the same thing where I work. Doesn’t mean it’s the grim reaper, but it’s certainly not fun.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8507 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:25 am to
This is true. I think masks would have to be worn at home and pretty much everywhere else in order to work, but that’s something I wouldn’t be willing to do, so why should I ask others to do the same?
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21668 posts
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:26 am to
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It's asinine to believe a piece of fabric is going to keep you from getting it.


I don't think basic physics is asinine at all. Would you rather be sneezed on, or have the person cover their mouth?

No doctor ever claimed that masks make you safe. They help. That's better than nothing.

And some of you seem to think you're wearing a mask to protect yourself. You're not. You're wearing it to protect others.

Here's the real deal:
1. Masks help reduce risk.
2. Covid kills some people.

Wearing a mask might save 10,000 people, or 1,000 people, or 5 people. Who knows? But, what amount is enough for you to have to endure the inconvenience of wearing a mask when you're in public?
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 8:28 am
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