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re: Feel more comfortable with Mac than I did with Tua
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:06 am to BLG
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:06 am to BLG
When healthy, Tua was a cheat code.
In 18 he would have run away with the Heisman had he not been injured and had Saban not wanted to play Hurts so much.
Last year after six fully healthy games and no Hurts eating into his playing time, Tua had 27 touchdowns to 1 int. That was more touchdowns and less int then Burrow had after six games. Tua was on pace for 68 touchdown passes last year had he played 15 games.
A fully healthy Tua is the best QB I've ever seen play college football.
In 18 he would have run away with the Heisman had he not been injured and had Saban not wanted to play Hurts so much.
Last year after six fully healthy games and no Hurts eating into his playing time, Tua had 27 touchdowns to 1 int. That was more touchdowns and less int then Burrow had after six games. Tua was on pace for 68 touchdown passes last year had he played 15 games.
A fully healthy Tua is the best QB I've ever seen play college football.
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:17 am to remaster916
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A fully healthy Tua is the best QB I've ever seen play college football.
I agree with that. Darned unfortunate he's had such horrible injury luck. I'm glad he got that NFL money.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:46 am to RescueT
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So Saban isn’t a leader when he gets in players asses on the sideline or on the middle of the field?
Can you not even fricking read? Or are you really that fricking stupid? When was the last time that a player pushed Saban when Saban got in his grill?
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:43 am to BamaGradinTn
Hey idiot, do you really think a player is gonna push Saban!?! Good lord man. Removed from team immediately. These are 18-21 year old kids who when called out by a peer sometimes react. Your brother ever get in your arse and react negatively? Your grandpa ever get in your arse and you push him? Both are trying to impress something on you, different reactions. I know you aren’t this freaking stupid.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:45 am to RescueT
nevermind
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:48 am to King Cam
Is it really that hard for you to admit that Tua wasn’t the savior you want him to be. He had good stats and was a good qb. He was not and never will be AJ, and he was soft as toilet paper, unlike Coker who had more grit and tenacity.
Kyler Murray was statistically better than 99% of other qbs, but when playing equal competition couldn’t do a damn thing.
Kyler Murray was statistically better than 99% of other qbs, but when playing equal competition couldn’t do a damn thing.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 7:06 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Team chemistry was better with AJ,
I don't believe this for a second.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 7:55 pm to Syd
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Is it really that hard for you to admit that Tua wasn’t the savior you want him to be.
Tua gave us the best half of football I have ever witnessed, and the best and most important play in Alabama history.
And, somehow, the next two years were a disappointment. That's what I'll remember after 2nd and 26--just lots of anxiety, disappointment, and unmet potential.
We were supposed to win 3 in a row. That's not Tua's fault--our defense shite the bed. Well maybe he could have lived to fight another play a couple of times, but that was/is his competitive spirit.
Y'all are beating up on this guy but it's the truth. Tua never led a team through the regular season to win a championship. Like Gmac, McCarron(x2) and Coker did. He was a joy to watch, but at the end of the day, Alabama's about hardware, not flash and stats.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 7:59 pm to bamameister
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The Teague play certainly counted.
You're goddamned right it did.
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If he had not taken the ball Miami would have simply declined the offsides and the Hurricanes would have been in business at the goal line. It was a huge momentum buster and no doubt saved us 7 points.
I don't know why we have to keep explaining it. They accepted the 5 yard penalty instead of an gajillion yard gain precisely because Teague made that play. It was the nail the coffin.
2nd and 26 is the greatest Bama play ever. This one is way, way up there.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:51 pm to remaster916
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had Saban not wanted to play Hurts so much
Let’s think about that. Had Hurts not been ready for UGA we lose that game. He saved our arse.
Tua played great in about every game but UGA found his weakness and Clemson exploited the absolute shite out it. Tua would pre snap his read and not change it, defenses would show the same coverage and switch mid way.
In the Natty he had a pick 6 right out of the gate.
I absolutely love the kid but he wasn’t perfect.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:55 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Tua played great in about every game but UGA found his weakness
Tua was playing on an injured knee most of the latter part of 2018, then the ankle was injured early in the game vs UGA. Actually I think both ankles were injured vs UGA, but only one required a procedure the day after the game.
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:57 pm to BLG
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Tua played great in about every game but UGA found his weakness
Tua was playing on an injured knee most of the latter part of 2018, then the ankle was injured early in the game vs UGA
No doubt he had ailments but his tell caught up to him and UGA and Clemson baited the hell out of him. It worked because there was no time to correct it.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:01 pm to CrimsonBoz
I don't know what "his tell" is but when a qb is injured it impacts their entire game, including mental
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:04 pm to BLG
He was reading pre snap and not changing from said read. UGA and Clemson switched coverages after snap and he threw in to it each time. I understand injury impacts those areas but this was just something that happened.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:28 pm to CrimsonBoz
Who whacked my post in this thread and why?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:56 pm to Spread
I didn’t see it. So no idea.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:09 pm to RescueT
He didn't also have beastly defenses that Coker and AJ had. How many games did AJ carry Alabama in? Like actually despite the mediocre performance of the defense? That's like half the team right there you are ignoring. Hell Coker had Henry to hand off 30-40 times a game. I highly, highly doubt either of those two would have won championships either if they were put in his situation. So yes the offensive weapons he had but also the defenses.
I'm not saying Tua didn't have flaws because he did, but football is a TEAM sport. This is not basketball. Equating championships to individual success is easily the dumbest take you see in the sport. You're asking top QBs to play perfect in every game to make up for other issues on the team.
You see this in the NFL too. Plenty of HOF QBs with zero or a whopping one Super Bowl win despite playing for like 15 years or more. If your defense does not step up in the key games, you will NOT win it all.
I'm not saying Tua didn't have flaws because he did, but football is a TEAM sport. This is not basketball. Equating championships to individual success is easily the dumbest take you see in the sport. You're asking top QBs to play perfect in every game to make up for other issues on the team.
You see this in the NFL too. Plenty of HOF QBs with zero or a whopping one Super Bowl win despite playing for like 15 years or more. If your defense does not step up in the key games, you will NOT win it all.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:33 pm to 1BamaRTR
Tua was phenomenal when healthy. The best we’ve ever had as a pure passer. The problem with Tua was he was almost never healthy. I’ve literally never seen a player so injury prone in my life. Every time he got tackled you had to hold your breath. That’s not his fault, but it’s a fact.
Personally I’d rather have a less talented player like a Mac or AJ that still has plenty of talent, great leadership and are tough as hell.
Personally I’d rather have a less talented player like a Mac or AJ that still has plenty of talent, great leadership and are tough as hell.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:41 pm to tider04
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The problem with Tua was he was almost never healthy.
I’ve often said, if he would have played more as a freshman, he wouldn’t have been available in the championship game
Posted on 9/30/20 at 12:04 am to Grievous Angel
It was such a sad ending to what could have been the greatest team of all time in 2018. Idk what happened in that championship but I have never seen a Saban team beat like that.
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