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Does Golding get another year?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:08 am
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:08 am
He came in with such promise, but in two years has been nothing short of a massive disappointment. Our LB play has be horrid under his leadership, even last year when we had Moses and Wilson manning the middle. Does Saban give him one more year to turn it around or is it time to get get an experienced DC (maybe Steele at AU) or someone like that?
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:11 am to tider04
Unless we can get a bona fide , 100% guarantee improvement, I'm tired of the coaching changes.
Look at Clemson, IMO, one of the main reasons they are good I'd the stability at coaching
Look at Clemson, IMO, one of the main reasons they are good I'd the stability at coaching
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:14 am to East Coast Band
I hear you on that, but they stick with assistants like Venables who are elite. Not projects from small schools who can't seem to establish themselves at the highest level like Golding.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:18 am to tider04
What happens at Clemson can't happen at Bama. Guys are at Clemson because of the lighter workload. That's not happening in the SEC and won't happen under Saban. I'm 50/50 with Golden right now.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:20 am to tider04
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Venables who are elite
Was fired from Oklahoma, gave up like 70pts to WVU or some team like that before becoming "elite".
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:21 am to Shaft Williams
He seems to be a solid recruiter, so I would say demote him to a position coach, but the problem is that his position (ILB) has been the worst unit on the field both years he's been coaching, which is not a good sign for him.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:22 am to tider04
Doubt he takes a demotion
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:23 am to Bear88
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Doubt he takes a demotion
He won't have a choice. I don't think anyone is going to be knocking down his door after this year.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:24 am to tider04
I kind of doubt it given that it sounds like Saban has eliminating staff turnover at the top of his mind. But I think this is one situation where turnover would be a good thing.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:25 am to tider04
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He won't have a choice. I don't think anyone is going to be knocking down his door after this year.
You are delusional.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:26 am to FeralFeral
People also forget Venables has a kid playing for Clemson. Why leave a place with a lighter workload with your child who is a starter in your defense?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:27 am to 3down10
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gave up like 70pts to WVU or some team like that before becoming "elite".
Wasn't that Steele? Still supports your overall point though.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:28 am to Shaft Williams
I remember hearing before this season that Saban kicked the tires on Aranda and Jimmy Lake at Washington. That tells me that Saban isn't so married to the idea of keeping a DC as some believe. Also, there's Charles Kelly and Sunseri on the defensive staff and both of those guys are veteran coaches who can maintain continuity if a new DC is brought in.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:32 am to Funky Tide 8
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Wasn't that Steele? Still supports your overall point though.
Could be, I'm terrible with names.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:36 am to 3down10
Steele was fired from Clemson. Venebles was fired from Oklahoma.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:37 am to prevatt33b
Also, this thread is terrible.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:51 am to tider04
He will have options whether you want to believe it or not in this hypothetical situation
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:51 am to Shaft Williams
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Why leave a place with a lighter workload with your child who is a starter in your defense?
With roughly the same pay, and competing at the same highest level.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:08 pm to tider04
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I hear you on that, but they stick with assistants like Venables who are elite
While I think Venables is the best DC around currently and he's elite now, he wasn't elite when he went to Clemson. His defenses at Oklahoma were from below average to pretty good; but they were susceptible to big plays, particularly in the passing game. OU's passing defense ranked 48th, 53rd, 41st, 59th, 99th, 20th, 51st and 79th in Venables' eight seasons. A Bama DC wouldn't last that long with seasons like that; to put it in context, right now Bama is ranked around 38th in pass defense which is better than all but one of Venables' seasons in his time at OU...
Just like players, coaches have to develop as well and Golding is a young dude. In his first real season as DC, Golding was dealt a difficult hand with our defense; both starting MLBs out for the season without playing a snap, LaBryan Ray out early and for the rest of the season, and up to 5 true freshmen starters at the same time, and, I think, they've had up to 6 true freshmen starting at one time or another this season. Name another time when that's ever happened at Bama? As good as Kirby Smart and Jeremy Pruitt were at Bama, how many true freshman started for any of their defenses?
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:31 pm to OldPete
i think the biggest issue with pg is, he had never coached ilb'ers before coming to bama. also, he may be a guy that has all the head knowledge about defense you could want. he just cant seem to translate it to a winning product on the field. it happens
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