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re: CFP Expansion, Conference Realignment, NCAA Changes

Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:58 am to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:58 am to
Miss St. shouldn’t even be in the SEC at this point. Addition by subtraction, even though it won’t happen
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10033 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 2:07 am to
We have played State and they closer to Tuscaloosa than anyone else.

If you want to argue that there should be a FPS with many of the lesser schools from the power 5 being left behind I would agree. I wouldn't start with Miss St though.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 2:40 am to
quote:

Alabama’s 3 permanent opponents should be Auburn, Tennessee, and Miss St.

New SEC 16-team structure & scheduling (sneak preview) -- (thread)
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 11:47 am to
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 11:37 am to
ODU, Marshall, S. Miss plan to leave C-USA early (espn)

C-USA threatens OSU, Marshall, S. Miss (espn)
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 8:52 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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36467 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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36467 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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36467 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 5:57 pm to
Why the CFP is not expanding, what people are saying and what's next (espn)



Because the ACC/B1G/PAC 'Alliance' commissioners voted against it.
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 2:49 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50266 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 7:48 pm to
It's weird to me that other conferences are claiming OK and TU joining the SEC is a deterrent to expanding the playoff.

If anything, that should be even MORE reason why other conferences would want to expand.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:27 pm to
Apparently they fear SEC expansion could help the SEC get more teams in a bigger CFP. Those same commissioners want automatic inclusion in the CFP for their own conference champs.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 7:28 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 9:29 am to
If the CFP eventually expands, a Top-6 CFP is best, imo. Round-1: #1 & #2 byes, #6 at #3 and #5 at #4. No changes to semis and final, except schedule -- play final on 1st Sat. in Jan. Top-6 (without automatic bids) enables all P5 conference champs and a G5 to earn a top-6 ranking. Round-1 byes for #1 & #2 and home fields for #3 & #4 are incentives to play better out-of-conference opponents to earn higher ranking/seeding. Maybe the CFP should also require playing no FCS opponent(s) to qualify for a Top-6 ranking (non-contenders could still play them). Also, a Top-6 CFP wouldn't further devalue bowls like a bigger CFP would.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 2:14 pm to
Sidenote: Imo, any healthy player who "opts out" of playing (e.g., "to prepare for the NFL draft") should have to forfeit his FB scholly and involvement in the program, effective immediately. NCAA rules should require that standard-language stipulation in every athletic scholarship agreement. Instead of quitting on those who helped you gain your good fortune because you fear being injured in a bowl, spend some of your big NIL bag on insurance (instead of pissing it away on tattoos, etc).
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 11:12 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 2:58 pm to
NCAA to review NIL impact on athletes, violations (espn)

This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
3756 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 8:43 am to
In no way should boosters organize pay for play. That is not NIL. It’s buying players. Jimbo can cry all he wants but you dont sign 3 5 stars in 4 years then 7 5 stars in a single year coming off a mediocre season without luring players with cash. It will be interesting how deep the NCAA looks into this situation.
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 8:44 am
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3732 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:35 am to
theres a path to the playoffs in most every sport without being ranked highly. i still dont understand why college football fans are so against it. conference champs should be rewarded for being conference champs. nobody has a problem ranking uga at the top when they play in the weakest division in the power 5. how many years now has uga played in the weakest power 5 division and been punished for it, none. go undefeated in the weakest div, go to the seccg, boom playoff bound win or lose. but we can not have a pac 12 champ anywhere near the playoffs because they're so weak, a bunch of folks are talking out the side of their neck.

go to a fully transparent bcs, kill the committee crap. take the 5 conference champs then the highest ranked team. 1&2 get byes, 3 vs 6, 4 vs 5, 1 vs 3 or 6, 2 vs 4 or 5. boom champs
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:59 am to
Smh. Automatic bids for conference champs is idiotic. Winning a conference title is it's own reward. But a multi-loss champion of a weak conference doesn't thereby deserve to be in the CFP. The 6 best teams might be in 2 or 3 conferences. And there are 10 conferences, not 5.

The committee has done a good job, much better than a (not really transparent) crappy combo of computers and ignorant biased poll voters can. The committee rankings are pretty transparent and extensively scrutinized. They pretty much have to get it right.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3732 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:39 am to
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Smh. Automatic bids for conference champs is idiotic.


well then it's "idiotic" in every sport, right? or are we just picking and choosing?
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:13 am to
By your logic the AAC, CUSA, SBC, MAC & MWC champs should get automatic bids to be in the CFP. Imo, 95% of the G5 teams belong in a lower sub-division with its own playoff. They're rent-a-wins vs most P5-level teams.

I'm talking about the FBS. It's very different than other college sports. CFB is a 12-15 game grind, not several games per week with tourneys, series and double headers. Do you think injuries from that grind weren't a huge factor in the most recent CFP final? It's also more feasible for any school to have a great team in other sports than it is in CFB. Large championship tournaments are fine for other sports, but not the FBS.

The CFP doesn't need to be any bigger than a top-6 to determine the best team. By regular season's end, we almost know who it is.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 1:31 pm
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