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re: Coaching Changes for Alabama(Analysts edition!!!)
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:41 pm to RollTide4Ever
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:41 pm to RollTide4Ever
The beautiful thing about Nick Saban and Alabama, is yeah we lose 7 starters on O. It is an opportunity. But with the way we recruit, no matter who ends up taking over at those 7 spots, it will be as good or better than 95 % of all teams in CFB on day 1. the kicker will be will it be the best by the end of the year? History says most likely it will be. Remember of all our National Championships, only 1 happened, 2012 when the QB was returning.
2009- GMac 1st year starter
2011- AJ first year starter
2012- AJ again
2015- Jake Coker 1st year starter
2017- I say its Tua, 1st year starter. Some could claim Hurts as second year starter, but Tua won the game.
2020- Mac a 1st year starter
2021- Young a 1st year starter? Maybe or Maybe not?
2009- GMac 1st year starter
2011- AJ first year starter
2012- AJ again
2015- Jake Coker 1st year starter
2017- I say its Tua, 1st year starter. Some could claim Hurts as second year starter, but Tua won the game.
2020- Mac a 1st year starter
2021- Young a 1st year starter? Maybe or Maybe not?
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:06 am to amders44
Per Zenitz
Surly Horns is not impressed
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Sources: Alabama analyst Mike Stoops is expected to be hired by Steve Sarkisian at Texas. Sounds like he'll be linebackers coach.
Spent the last two years at Bama after seven seasons as the defensive coordinator at Oklahoma.
Surly Horns is not impressed
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:48 am to Carlton
Frick 'em. We opening up rehab clinic analyst spots for Pruitt, Herman, Boulware, etc.This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 12:49 am
Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:51 am to Vidic
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I really don’t understand your obsession with having taller WR’s. You obsess about it I’m recruiting too. I mean have you watched our 6’ receivers lately? They literally do anything a 6’3 receiver can (and better)
He’s probably haunted by the fact that in recent history, when we’ve lost it’s usually by a tall WR. Clemson 2018/2016, Ole Miss a couple times, Texas A&M a couple times (lost once but Evans made it interesting when we won), Auburn a couple years, etc...
He’s probably haunted by tall WRs making big plays against our defense and assumes that’s what we’re lacking lol
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:02 am to HighTide_ATL
I also thinks a good mix of receivers is ideal and it is nice to have some height and bigger bodies available but but Billingsly fits the mold enough for that
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:51 am to TidalSurge1
Per Brian Davis Twitter
I was really worried about Sark for minute.
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Texas coach Steve Sarkisian tells me this morning the Horns are not hiring Mike Stoops. He does have someone else in mind for LB coach, hopes to finalize later today. “I’m really excited about who we’re talking to.”
I was really worried about Sark for minute.Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:01 am to UncleTommy
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Only with my wife.
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Same
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:02 am to HighTide_ATL
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He’s probably haunted by tall WRs making big plays against our defense and assumes that’s what we’re lacking lol
Not at all and I did not refer to or mention a 6-3 wr.
What I was talking about was based on some of our routes concepts and who is playing the X,Y,Z positions.I felt we needed a new pure X to step up so were still balanced..No-were did I say 8,18 did not make plays this yr..
The Z receiver is typically the #3 receiver on the depth chart, and plays "in the slot". He's usually a smaller, quicker, receiver who will run a lot of short crossing routes over the middle.
He's a yards after catch type WR.
So I only meant that with Smitty moving on one of Baker,Brooks, Holden,Hall needs to step up as a pure X..I am not saying the others(8,18) were not making plays or restricted.
whats crazy is our staff over the past 2 yrs have recruited a few more pure X wr types...
But killed it in this yr class also in slot types with getting both Leary and Jojo.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:48 pm to UncleTommy
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But for now, I have five very specific projections that you can hold my feet to the fire over. Any one is bad enough, but I suspect we’re going to see multiple come to maturation:
1. Alabama’s recruiting, specifically skills players, will take a hit — and it will come with someone who was committed or otherwise seemed a lock
2. Alabama will lose at least one talented skill player for whom it makes no sense, given the open competition and PT available — think QB/WR
3. Alabama’s PPG will regress to 37.6 PPG or somewhere there about. And the YPA will be in the median / upper third of the SEC. The explosiveness will be achieved, such as it is, on the back of sheer talent. Gone are the days of scheming players open into space.
4. There will come a game this season, at least one and perhaps two, where Alabama will lose a shootout because the offense simply cannot get it done. This WILL come at the hands of a former Saban protege, most likely Lane Kiffin.
5. Brian Robinson will be grotesquely overused.
Posted by Erik Evans on Jan 22, 2021 | 8:58 AM
This was discussed earlier in the thread. This is RBR's Erik Evans take on BoB. Thoughts?
Posted on 1/22/21 at 1:01 pm to UncleTommy
For the football X and O people you can check this Sark video last year describing our offense. A few times he refers to plays as what “ we do here “ at Bama and talks of how we were running some of the same stuff when he was not even here. I assume BOB will bring his wrinkles and tweaks to the offense but it will still have a lot of the same stuff we have seen the last few years
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This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 1/22/21 at 1:01 pm to UncleTommy
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1. Alabama’s recruiting, specifically skills players, will take a hit — and it will come with someone who was committed or otherwise seemed a lock
Very vague and something that happens almost yearly.
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2. Alabama will lose at least one talented skill player for whom it makes no sense, given the open competition and PT available — think QB/WR
This literally happens every year. Solid prediction.
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3. Alabama’s PPG will regress to 37.6 PPG or somewhere there about. And the YPA will be in the median / upper third of the SEC. The explosiveness will be achieved, such as it is, on the back of sheer talent. Gone are the days of scheming players open into space.
It could drop to that, which would put us still in the top 20 probably of scoring offenses in the country. Having a brand new QB and a host of new WR could also be a contributor. Putting it entirely on the OC is senseless.
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4. There will come a game this season, at least one and perhaps two, where Alabama will lose a shootout because the offense simply cannot get it done. This WILL come at the hands of a former Saban protege, most likely Lane Kiffin.
If you lose a shootout, isn't it your defense that isn't getting it done?
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5. Brian Robinson will be grotesquely overused.
We don't even have confirmation he's back, and I'll take his bet. I'm betting on a committee approach back there where we probably have three guys getting decent touches. Thinking 2018 - Harris, Harris, and Jacobs.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 1/22/21 at 1:07 pm to UncleTommy
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But for now, I have five very specific projections that you can hold my feet to the fire over. Any one is bad enough, but I suspect we’re going to see multiple come to maturation:
1. Alabama’s recruiting, specifically skills players, will take a hit — and it will come with someone who was committed or otherwise seemed a lock
2. Alabama will lose at least one talented skill player for whom it makes no sense, given the open competition and PT available — think QB/WR
3. Alabama’s PPG will regress to 37.6 PPG or somewhere there about. And the YPA will be in the median / upper third of the SEC. The explosiveness will be achieved, such as it is, on the back of sheer talent. Gone are the days of scheming players open into space.
4. There will come a game this season, at least one and perhaps two, where Alabama will lose a shootout because the offense simply cannot get it done. This WILL come at the hands of a former Saban protege, most likely Lane Kiffin.
5. Brian Robinson will be grotesquely overused.
Posted by Erik Evans on Jan 22, 2021 | 8:58 AM
That is full on off season drivel. Cocksucker couldn't even wait until February.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 1:29 pm to UncleTommy
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1. Alabama’s recruiting, specifically skills players, will take a hit — and it will come with someone who was committed or otherwise seemed a lock
2. Alabama will lose at least one talented skill player for whom it makes no sense, given the open competition and PT available — think QB/WR
gee. That guy is going out on a limb there, considering neither of those things are unusual at Alabama or anywhere else
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3. Alabama’s PPG will regress to 37.6 PPG or somewhere there about. And the YPA will be in the median / upper third of the SEC. The explosiveness will be achieved, such as it is, on the back of sheer talent. Gone are the days of scheming players open into space.
4. There will come a game this season, at least one and perhaps two, where Alabama will lose a shootout because the offense simply cannot get it done.
so basically, it might be like 2016 and 2017
I never even heard of this guy till I read it in this thread.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 1/22/21 at 1:31 pm to UncleTommy
Meh, we run a system which is same/sister to Gerhardt-(Ray) Perkins system run in New England. I am assuming the reason both Daboll and O'Brien were brought in is because they know those systems better than anyone (Sark obviously knows it exceptionally well ). Not really worried especially since a lot is centered on the decision making of the QB not the playcaller. For instance when DeVonta is on the LB for that TD in the Natty, one of the concepts in the system is getting the receiver on that linebacker. Anyway here is a bunch of stuff to read and watch (also go look at the Sark video posted earlier).
History of Alabama offense via OC's through Daboll
Breakdown of Patriots Offense
O'Brien sharing some E-P Concepts
sharing some E-P Concepts 2
sharing some E-P Concepts 3
Video explaining Pats offense with Bill spliced in
Bill needs to make sure that the wrinkles added to get wide receivers, tight ends and backs catching out the backfield are still be implemented.
ETA: Some of this is relationship stuff mostly centered around his relationship with pros I'm guessing. It could be a problem but until he bailed on PSU he was well liked. I know a greatest coach of all time who rubbed a lot of pros the wrong way.
). Not really worried especially since a lot is centered on the decision making of the QB not the playcaller. For instance when DeVonta is on the LB for that TD in the Natty, one of the concepts in the system is getting the receiver on that linebacker. Anyway here is a bunch of stuff to read and watch (also go look at the Sark video posted earlier). History of Alabama offense via OC's through Daboll
Breakdown of Patriots Offense
O'Brien sharing some E-P Concepts
sharing some E-P Concepts 2
sharing some E-P Concepts 3
Video explaining Pats offense with Bill spliced in
Bill needs to make sure that the wrinkles added to get wide receivers, tight ends and backs catching out the backfield are still be implemented.
ETA: Some of this is relationship stuff mostly centered around his relationship with pros I'm guessing. It could be a problem but until he bailed on PSU he was well liked. I know a greatest coach of all time who rubbed a lot of pros the wrong way.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 1/22/21 at 3:16 pm to Carlton
Ok, I'm going to give 5 predictions and if 1 becomes true I'll pat my self on the back.
1. We will lose a game in the future.
2. Our offense will not be as good in 2021 as it was in 2020.
3. The abbreviation BOB will be used 85,436 times before the spring practice.
4. Someone will downvote this post.
5. My handle is Syd, no one will copy my handle.
1. We will lose a game in the future.
2. Our offense will not be as good in 2021 as it was in 2020.
3. The abbreviation BOB will be used 85,436 times before the spring practice.
4. Someone will downvote this post.
5. My handle is Syd, no one will copy my handle.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:45 pm to TidalSurge1
Zenitz is now saying that Sark wanted Stoops but once the news broke the backlash caused him to reconsider and Stoops will stay at Bama . I don't know if Zenitz is covering his arse but if he isn't this is why I believe this is going to blow up on Sark. Stoops is an odd hire but if they are already dictating his staff look out .
Looks like they have hired Montana State head coach as their LB Coach. That is some pull right there.
. I don't know if Zenitz is covering his arse but if he isn't this is why I believe this is going to blow up on Sark. Stoops is an odd hire but if they are already dictating his staff look out . Looks like they have hired Montana State head coach as their LB Coach. That is some pull right there.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:11 pm to Carlton
After a quick search, there are no big time recruits out of Montana. Maybe he is just a good coach?
Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:13 pm to FWBFLlaw
He use to work with their DC.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:19 pm to MagillaGuerilla
Yeah this was a combo hire like Sark/Flood - somebody the new DC works well with. Makes me wonder if it was suppose to be Golding/Stoops?
Posted on 1/22/21 at 8:55 pm to Carlton
Maybe Ogre can hire Stoops as his DC. 
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 8:57 pm
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