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Charges dismissed in Farmer case

Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:32 pm
Posted by BFANLC
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:32 pm
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These were weird charges to begin with. Prostitution I could see but trafficking is just something I think prosecutors are trying to push.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:22 pm to
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Robinson said 10 of the defendants have had preliminary hearings so far, and Farmer’s is the first to be dismissed. The judge who heard evidence against Farmer, he said, had previously heard evidence against six other suspects and said Farmer’s case was not similar to the others. “The facts of his case were not remotely similar to the other 15,’’ Robinson said.

Hmmm.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 12:10 pm to
Wow! This guy's name was dragged through the mud.
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 1:12 pm to
I wouldn't exactly believe his lawyer here. I mean he called the place for sex. He was soliciting sex from someone even if it wasn't minors which is still pretty lame.

No game farmer!

I'd imagine someone wrote a check to someone's campaign here which made it go away.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 7:05 pm to
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Farmer’s case was not similar to the others


They all wanted to bang a minor.What did Jim Farmer want.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:02 pm to
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I'd imagine someone wrote a check to someone's campaign here which made it go away.


The district attorney didn't dismiss the charges and Farmer wasn't acquitted. The judge in the preliminary hearing didn't find that the evidence presented didn't establish enough probable cause to send it forward to a grand jury.

What that means is that while the charges are gone for now, there is nothing to prevent the DA from presenting it to a future grand jury if he/she is convinced the evidence shows Farmer committed a crime.

If someone "wrote a check to someone's campaign here" because Farmer did something and they really need to stack the deck and make it disappear, they spent their money on the wrong elected officials.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 5:38 am to
Whatever happened it should be prostitution charges not trafficking.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:52 am to
To the best of my knowledge, none of us has seen one bit of the evidence and aren't in a position to say what (if any) charges should be filed.

That's really my point in continuing to post about it. Folks knee-jerked to execute him, then folks knee-jerked to completely exonerate him. Both of those reactions are things you just cannot do until you see actual evidence.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:31 pm to
Unless he actually trafficked the minor then he shouldn't be charged with that.

He was (allegedly) attempting to have sex with a minor which is prostitution not trafficking.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 4:41 pm to
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Unless he actually trafficked the minor then he shouldn't be charged with that.

He was (allegedly) attempting to have sex with a minor which is prostitution not trafficking.


My initial response would be that to my knowledge none of the evidence from the case has been published so we don’t know what he was accused of doing. We know how the media portrayed what he was charged with doing. A magic 8 ball is about as reliable as a reporter. Never take their word for anything.

With that out of the way, you cannot apply how you define words to criminal charges. For example in Alabama if you force someone to perform oral sex on you, you are not guilty of rape. You are guilty of sodomy.

In this case, Tennessee law makes both the purchaser (John) and provider (pimp) of someone for a commercial sex act guilty of human trafficking whether we call it that or not.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:10 pm to
Well then the Tenn Law is shite. Prostitution and trafficking are two different things.

Human trafficking is the trade of humans for the purpose of forced labour, sexual slavery, or commercial sexual exploitation for the trafficker or others.

Was he trafficking people for sex? No.
Was he attempting to have sex with a minor? Yes = prostitution.

You can continue to state that we dont know this and dont know that. I don't really care. I'm going by what has been stated in the news.

States have started to create laws that are all inclusive for example Alabama has terroristic threats which include threats against people in general. Are those really terroristic threats? It's just a threat. Quit trying to make something worse than what it is.

I'm not defending or saying he is guilty. My issue is the crime verbiage. Which looks worse and which is actually true to what crime he committed. Prostitution or trafficking? What was his intent?
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:26 pm to
Dude has went off the deep end. Put him in jail and throw away the key.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:49 pm to
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Since then he worked as a model and country music singer. In the early 2000s, Farmer released an album titled “Baby Come On.”


Wait, what?
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24466 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:52 pm to
I wonder if Passink will tweet about this as much as he did when the charges were dropped.
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