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coachcrisp
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Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
His analogy is so appropriate!..excellent read!


biggsc
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
No link?


mrbroker
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
on Tidesports I see one dated 3-2


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coachcrisp
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
They'll take away my online subscription if I do.

It's the "deja vu" one!
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East Coast Band
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
A summary?


coachcrisp
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
What the hell!

"Imagine you are on a journey. Imagine your journey is from one end of the state of Kansas to the other. On a tricycle. Into a headwind.

You don’t encounter any high mountains or deep valleys. You don’t find yourself in a tropical jungle or arctic tundra. Just a flat, straight road cutting through wheat fields. Every day, day after day, until the days run into one another and you look around and have no way to differentiate where you are today from where you were yesterday. The sameness may have a calming effect at first, a reassuring consistency, a sense that at least you are holding your own. But then it stretches on — a year, two years, five years. The feeling of reassurance gives way to something else, a concern that this journey is going to look the same forever, no matter how long you are on the road.

For the fifth straight year, after the 29th game of its college basketball season, Alabama has a record of 17-12. The exact same record, not one game better or one game worse. In the “give credit where it is due” department, freelance sports writer John Mitchell pointed out on Twitter that Avery Johnson’s teams had gone 17-12 for a fourth consecutive year. Even he underestimated the length of the streak — Anthony Grant’s final team was 17-12, too. That’s half of a decade, some years more exciting and some more frustrating but ultimately reaching the same level, like a glass of water sitting on a table at room temperature. It’s a full turnover of the roster with the exception of The Eternal Riley Norris.

And it makes for a thorny dilemma for a columnist. If things were better, showing progress, you wouldn’t have to think about the big picture. If they were significantly worse, that would be easy, too. But when things are same — the unchanging same — there is a more difficult puzzle to solve. Do you advocate blowing things up and starting from scratch? Would that makes things better or is it just a frustration reaction, a desire to overturn the apple basket just to see which way the apples will roll? Furthermore, you have to rely on guesswork about the future? Will it be better, or worse? Looking at Alabama’s returning roster — no Donta Hall, no Norris — and recruiting class to date, one might guess that it will be yet another 17-12 at this time next March.

You don’t make that judgment on one game. Saturday’s 74-69 loss to SEC leader LSU wasn’t quite the non-starter that the loss to Florida two weeks ago was. There was talk in the postgame interviews about how Alabama “played hard” although it seemed to me to about an average SEC effort especially when two starters, Dazon Ingram and Tevin Mack, combined for one point. (To be fair, Ingram has a quad injury that seemed to affect his mobility and, perhaps, his concentration.)


All that Alabama can do now is keep peddling that tricycle. Last year’s team won three more games after that initial 17, all in the postseason, and that made the season seem a little sweeter in the end. Beating Auburn on Tuesday would help improve the chances for postseason play this year. Eventually, though, there has to be some scenery along the way, something that Alabama fans can feel optimistic about. There was a win over Kentucky, yes, but that game wasn’t a case of late heroics so much as it was pulling up the gas station on fumes. There has be some surprise happy ending at some point. So far, it’s been a fifth season of a miniseries with new actors — but the exact same script."



mrbroker
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
spot on dude.


Canyon16
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
Cecil, in a diplomatic article has seen enough, bored with the same ole monotonous talk & play, tired of rolling his eyes, ready for change. If Avery's plug is finally pulled you'll get that justified article he's probably already written up, laying on his desk.


Cobrasize
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
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Cecil, in a diplomatic article has seen enough, bored with the same ole monotonous talk & play, tired of rolling his eyes, ready for change. If Avery's plug is finally pulled you'll get that justified article he's probably already written up, laying on his desk.

Exactly. Cecil knows there needs to be a change, he just isn't comfortable unleashing a firestorm......yet.


phil4bama
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
I find it rather curious that Avery didn’t go to Trendon Watfords game yesterday. He sent all the assistants instead. Will Wade went. Where was Avery? Was it lack of concern? Is he no longer engaged? Is one foot out the door? Why? If you are still the coach at Alabama and intend on remaining here next season, I can think of no good reason not to recruit the most important in state prospect in person barring a family emergency. Can you?


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coachcrisp
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
Exactly. If/when we see a truly negative article from him about the situation, we'll know that the decision has been made.


Cobrasize
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
It's alarming to me that Avery couldn't get off of his arse to drive less than an hour and see by far the best player in the state. It isn't just about Trendon. This is the biggest basketball tournament in the state, it would be good for the head coach of Alabama to at least be seen. There are a bunch of other kids that may blossom into top tier players and Avery missed the opportunity to be there.


TiderNAL
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
Hopefully he was making departure plans instead.


bamarep
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
I bought into "buckle up" hook, line, and sinker.


It's time for a change though.


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14&Counting
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
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His analogy is so appropriate!..excellent read!


If only there was a link so I could read it


bbeck
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
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I find it rather curious that Avery didn’t go to Trendon Watfords game yesterday.

If I’m Watford, there’s no way in hell im coming to Bama.


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coachcrisp
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
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If only there was a link so I could read it
You do realize that The Tusc. News frowns upon linking their articles, right? Besides, I went ahead and copied it anyway, so if you'll look up a few posts, you'll find it....knock yourself out!


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3down10
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
So 17-12 all these years, but what was the difficulty of the schedule in each of these years?

I really have no idea how the results would turn out, but when judging performance and using record, it's kind of a big deal.

If for example our schedule has gotten easier over the past few years, that would be pretty damning for Avery. On the other hand, if it had gotten more difficult, that would actually be a sign of progress, despite the even record.

And of course, it could just turn out a rut is a rut.

But it matters IMO.


wm72
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
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So 17-12 all these years, but what was the difficulty of the schedule in each of these years?

I really have no idea how the results would turn out, but when judging performance and using record, it's kind of a big deal.

If for example our schedule has gotten easier over the past few years, that would be pretty damning for Avery. On the other hand, if it had gotten more difficult, that would actually be a sign of progress, despite the even record.

And of course, it could just turn out a rut is a rut.

But it matters IMO.



Schedule has been more difficult the past 2 seasons.

However, that's frustrating too since it's due to more SEC teams having Top 25 seasons whereas we just remain the bubble team.

It's actually even fair to say that Avery's teams have probably improved slightly every year he's been here.

Again, however, that incremental improvement is on pace for an actual SEC title contender to be about a 2 decades away, if it can be continued.

That's really the conundrum Cecil is pointing out.

Avery's not been so bad that replacing him is a no brainer but just so slightly above average that it's draining the energy his hire had created.


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coachcrisp
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re: Cecil Hurt's Sunday article hits the nail on the head!
The reason I started the thread was because Cecil perfectly framed the situation with the basketball program. If you're content with being a bubble team, ending up a hand full of games above .500 and being in the upper level of the middle of the conference, then let's leave Avery alone. If you're NOT, then changes are gonna have to be made and waiting is only going to prolong things. It looks to me like our AD needs to earn his money and make a decision....or maybe he already has.


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