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Cecil Hurt Article on 2019-2020 Alabama Basketball Team

Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:54 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 8:54 am
100% dead on accurate

Alabama Basketball Buzz Getting Louder - Tuscaloosa News, Cecil Hurt

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There is a stronger, larger group of Alabama basketball fans than people realize. There are a core group of supporters who date back to the C.M. Newton days exists primarily in Tuscaloosa and Birmingham. There are others, ranging from those who love any team with “Alabama” on the uniform to basketball devotes raised on the strong history of the sport at the high school level, especially in places that have been hotbeds for years. That includes a broad swath across the far northern part of the state and another in the Black Belt, where rivalries run deep in counties like Wilcox, Sumter, Calhoun and Perry.


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Understandably, many of Alabama’s loyal backers are also as wary as rabbits in a hedge. They’ve ventured out a bit this year but are keeping a close eye on this team, focusing on each game potentially painful. The excitement that has been generated has been centered on three things thus far.


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As always, the rabbit ears of the fan base will twitch a bit when the Crimson Tide takes the court in Nashville at a gym that has been a historic house of horrors for Alabama.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:03 am to
I love Cecil but he seems to have made a big mistake with this article. Says the excitement from the fanbase can be attributed to 3 things and proceeds to only name 2.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:07 am to
Pretty sure Cecil stole this from Gary Busey from the season thread

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Neither will Vanderbilt’s 0-for-25 3-point shooting against Tennessee last Saturday, which has Law of Averages believers expecting a 14-for-19 effort out of the Commodores.


Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:07 am to
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I love Cecil but he seems to have made a big mistake with this article. Says the excitement from the fanbase can be attributed to 3 things and proceeds to only name 2.



LOL - he Rick Perry'd it
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 9:08 am
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:09 am to
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LOL - he Rick Perry'd it


Quick, someone buy Cecil some glasses!
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:09 am to
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There is a stronger, larger group of Alabama basketball fans than people realize. There are a core group of supporters who date back to the C.M. Newton days [that] exists primarily in Tuscaloosa and Birmingham. There are others, ranging from those who love any team with “Alabama” on the uniform to basketball devotes [devotees] raised on the strong history of the sport at the high school level, especially in places that have been hotbeds for years. That includes a broad swath across the far northern part of the state and another in the Black Belt, where rivalries run deep in counties like Wilcox, Sumter, Calhoun and Perry.


See me after class Cecil

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Understandably, many of Alabama’s loyal backers are also as wary as rabbits in a hedge. They’ve ventured out a bit this year but are keeping a close eye on this team, focusing on each game potentially painful. The excitement that has been generated has been centered on three things thus far.


Hey! Look guys! It's us!

Cecil either got some really good weed before he started this article, or ran out of weed before he started this article.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 9:11 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:10 am to
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Hey! Look guys! It's us!




Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:11 am to
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Cecil either got some really good weed before he started this article, or ran out of weed before he started this article.



Have you ever written an article about Alabama basketball..........on weed?????????
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:15 am to
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Hey! Look guys! It's us!


I love getting caught up in the emotional rollercoaster of basketball season. We get to go from thinking we suck and will never win another game to booking our hotels for the Final Four, often over the course of 45 minutes. I love football games, but it just doesn't do that for you. Even elite programs like Duke, Kentucky, and Kansas get to go for a spin on the same rollercoaster numerous times every year.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:34 am to
Plenty of Bama B-Ball fans out here than remember when Alabama used to take everyone's lunch money, including Kentucky. Since Wimp terrorized folks on their homecourt there has been a lot of false starts in getting this team back up to speed. Mostly because Alabama really hasn't looked that hard for the next CM Newton and Wimp Sanderson. After over 20 years of basketball futility, we have constantly settled for mid-tier coaches on the way up, always thinking we could hit the lotto.

It happens, but typically there are more misses then hits. Our BOT has always been willing to live with that. The fans have been so busy counting natties in football, maybe we haven't been paying as much attention to it than otherwise we would.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:40 am to
Like the part about the underrated basketball fanbase. If the program has just a bit of momentum, 14,000 fans will pack in a crappy arena to watch the bubble riding Tide play a 10-13 Ole Miss Squad
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 9:40 am
Posted by coachcrisp
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:47 am to
I was getting ready to link the article myself!

"There is a stronger, larger group of Alabama basketball fans than people realize. There are a core group of supporters who date back to the C.M. Newton days exists primarily in Tuscaloosa and Birmingham."

Although we're getting pretty old, there is a bunch of us still kicking, and we produced a helluva crowd/atmosphere for those good Bama teams. What Coach Oats has begun to put on the floor will quickly start a new wave of fan interest and participation, and will grow as long as the quality of his "product" continues to improve.
I'd love to see us get back to how things were before because the younger folks haven't enjoyed times like those around the basketball program.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:48 am to
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Understandably, many of Alabama’s loyal backers are also as wary as rabbits in a hedge.

Rabbits aren’t half as wary as us. Rabbits ain’t played nobody, Pawlll
Posted by BraveMom
Northwest Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:51 am to
My family used to have season's tickets to BBall. I loved the teams CM and Wimp put on the floor. Its so frustrating to see what the team has become. I thin Oats may be what we need.
Posted by crimson crazy
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 9:52 am to
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I love Cecil but he seems to have made a big mistake with this article. Says the excitement from the fanbase can be attributed to 3 things and proceeds to only name 2.


A few years ago he wrote an article encouraging fans to come out and support the players for senior night. He acknowledged it had been a disappointing season and how Wednesday night is still a church night for a lot of people. The problem? The game was on Tuesday.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 9:53 am
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:22 am to
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Mostly because Alabama really hasn't looked that hard for the next CM Newton and Wimp Sanderson. After over 20 years of basketball futility, we have constantly settled for mid-tier coaches on the way up, always thinking we could hit the lotto.


Um, do you know CM and Wimp's histories before they got the Alabama job?

CM had one head coaching job. He was slightly over .500 at that basketball powerhouse known as Transylvania University. Wimp had ZERO head coaching experience when he took over for CM. He'd never even been an assistant anywhere other than Alabama.

Other than David Hobbes, every coach we've had since CM and Wimp have been better qualified on paper.

Gottfried (in addition to being a former Bama player) won 75% of his games, made 2 NCAA trips, and won the conference every season he was coach at Murray State.

Anthony Grant did the exact same thing - 75% win rate with 3 conference titles and 2 NCAA trips in 3 years at VCU.

Avery Johnson was a former NBA coach of the year with multiple playoff trips to his name.

CM and Wimp weren't "mid-tier coaches on the way up." They were guys nobody ever heard of that happened to be diamonds in the rough. When Wimp go the job even fans that liked him said it was just an easy, lazy hire.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:53 am to
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Um, do you know CM and Wimp's histories before they got the Alabama job?


It doesn't change a point I was making about the choices we've made. And yes I'm very familiar with Mr. CM Newton. Also Wedell Hudson, Leon Douglas, Anthony Murray, TR Dunn, Ricky Brown and such. And I'm convinced we were robbed vs Indiana when the ref wrongly called the 5th foul on Big Leon instead of Kent Benson. Cost us a NC.

We were riding high after the untimely demise of the Wimpster. We had lots of opportunities to upgrade the selection process and we did not. The Hobbs internal hire was lazy and smacked more of the idea that we were keeping it all in house, like forever. Gottfried, as an ex-player was just more of back to the future. After the blood ties grew stale, we choose our mid-tier guys from a larger pool.

Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 11:44 am to
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We had lots of opportunities to upgrade the selection process and we did not.


You're judging the hires completely in the rear view mirror. As the pre-Bama records prove, all the post-Hobbes hires on paper were better than both CM and Wimp. The college guys all had roughly the same level of D1 success as Nate Oats has coming in and Grant is having again at Dayton.

Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:19 pm to
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You're judging the hires completely in the rear view mirror. As the pre-Bama records prove, all the post-Hobbes hires on paper were better than both CM and Wimp. The college guys all had roughly the same level of D1 success as Nate Oats has coming in and Grant is having again at Dayton.





Patterns, my friend, patterns. You don't have to believe everything you "hear," but it's kinda stupid to deny what you "see."

The pattern for our BOT from CM Newton's departure to the Mark Gottfried firing was all in house. Just calling it like it is. Grant can coach, but he went full retard and tried to reinvent basketball. And the fact he has Dayton at around #10 in the polls and actually running a high powered offense only heightens my belief he made a pack with the barners before he took our money.

This is the same BOT and ADs that were making history in their football search.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 12:25 pm to
yep, Grant is looking pretty good at Dayton. When Bryant hired CM Newton, he was mostly concerned that the basketball coach wouldnt bring the ncaa in, and get us on probation.
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