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Cal Gov signs bill allowing Athletes to profit from their Image!
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:36 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:36 am
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This is huge. A bombshell till things settle down.
Would this cause Young to change his mind or this is too soon?
This is huge. A bombshell till things settle down.
Would this cause Young to change his mind or this is too soon?
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:44 am to My2Bits
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Cal Gov signs bill allowing Athletes to profit from their Image!
So stupid. This is going to kill college athletics.
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Would this cause Young to change his mind or this is too soon?
It shouldn't. The law doesn't go into effect until 2023.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 10:56 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:54 am to TideSaint
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So stupid. This is going to kill college athletics.
How so?
This does not mean the NCAA has to allow the athletes to profit.
The NCAA is a member-run organization and is allowed to have rules that disallow otherwise legal activities.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:56 am to My2Bits
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This is huge. A bombshell till things settle down.
Would this cause Young to change his mind or this is too soon?
LOL, the athletes could always legally profit from their likeness. NCAA rules prohibited it, and still do. NCAA is allowed to prohibit otherwise legal activities.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 10:57 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:57 am to biclops
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How so?
You don't see an issue with the NCAA disqualifying the California schools from competing if they take advantage of this?
Removing USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, etc. would drastically alter the landscape of college athletics.
Hell, Stanford has more national championships than any other university.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:59 am to TideSaint
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You don't see an issue with the NCAA disqualifying the California schools from competing if they take advantage of this?
Removing USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, etc. would drastically alter the landscape of college athletics.
Hell, Stanford has more national championships than any other university.
No, because if the only thing stopping them was the lack of this law, then they would have been doing it all along. It was always legal. It was only ever against NCAA rules.
The significance is that it's more of a sign that the movement to get the NCAA to change its rules is gaining support and traction. Which is important long-term for sure, but in the short term nothing should change.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 11:04 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:03 am to biclops
So what will happen at this point? A student athlete signs with an agent and they're ruled ineligible by the NCAA. The member school can't punish them, but the NCAA can punish the school as a member???
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:06 am to BamaReb
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So what will happen at this point? A student athlete signs with an agent and they're ruled ineligible by the NCAA. The member school can't punish them, but the NCAA can punish the school as a member???
Good question. I am not sure what the wording of the bill is, I guess it depends on that. A university is generally allowed to have rules that prohibit otherwise legal activities (e.g. no vaping, no skateboards on campus), but if this law specifically disallows the schools from punishing/disqualifying the athletes then your question may be valid.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 11:08 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:07 am to BamaReb
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The member school can't punish them, but the NCAA can punish the school as a member???
Yep.
The NCAA is going to disqualify any member who allows their athletes to get paid due to the unfair advantage of paying the players.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:09 am to TideSaint
Saint, does the bill/law state that the universities can't punish/disqualify athletes for profiting, or does it simply state that such profit is legal? There's a difference.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:09 am to biclops
Athletes could always profit ? No they can't,not if they want to play within the organization. Rules of the organization apply.
Unless the courts or the colleges in the NCAA force it everyone has to follow NCAA rules or get out.
We are in for some drastic changes in the future,will be interesting to see how this plays out.
The response from NCAA: LINK
Unless the courts or the colleges in the NCAA force it everyone has to follow NCAA rules or get out.
We are in for some drastic changes in the future,will be interesting to see how this plays out.
The response from NCAA: LINK
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:10 am to My2Bits
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Athletes could always profit ?
Yes, legally. But the NCAA could (and still can) still disqualify the athlete for such profit. I can be fired from a job for things that aren't illegal (but are against company policy). similar (but not perfect) analogy.
I think you are trying to make the same point as I was, but misread my post (or I didn't articulate clearly).
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 11:16 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:17 am to TideSaint
TS - I think what we would see is the school not allowing the athlete to participate in events outside of CA or with other schools outside of CA. And the CA schools should not allow the athlete to appear in school uniforms.
It will cause a cluster. You know (especially since it's in CA) some people will try to push the envelope. Some schools might jump onboard to push it. It is definitely going to cause the NCAA to start addressing some of their issues, so that might be a good thing.
It will cause a cluster. You know (especially since it's in CA) some people will try to push the envelope. Some schools might jump onboard to push it. It is definitely going to cause the NCAA to start addressing some of their issues, so that might be a good thing.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:21 am to biclops
It will open up buying of athletes. Mr Young, you come to Ala and we have a car dealership that will pay to use your name. We will line it up for you.
So a few athletes will be running around with a big roll of cash and the offensive linemen get nothing. That will go over real well
So a few athletes will be running around with a big roll of cash and the offensive linemen get nothing. That will go over real well
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:22 am to BamaReb
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TS - I think what we would see is the school not allowing the athlete to participate in events outside of CA or with other schools outside of CA. And the CA schools should not allow the athlete to appear in school uniforms.
It will cause a cluster. You know (especially since it's in CA) some people will try to push the envelope. Some schools might jump onboard to push it. It is definitely going to cause the NCAA to start addressing some of their issues, so that might be a good thing.
I know.
The other thing to consider is schedules are made years in advance. What if one of the California schools gets disqualified for having players taking advantage of this law? What does that do for their non-California opponents moving forward? Do they get a "victory" via forfeit? Do they get penalized for playing less games?
The ramifications of this situation goes far beyond giving a kid $1,000 for his jersey being sold.
The shortsightedness of these California lawmakers is fricking laughable.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:35 am to TideSaint
The whole deal is looked at from a myopic point of view. It's all about not letting Universities profit the images of players,while the not sharing the booty with players.
This is going to make recruiting dirtier than it is now while further blurring the line between Pro's and College athletes. At least in the short run.
This is going to make recruiting dirtier than it is now while further blurring the line between Pro's and College athletes. At least in the short run.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:39 am to TideSaint
Between Cal,USC,UCLA and Stanford they have more NCAA Champoinships than any other states or even a whole collection of states.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:45 am to My2Bits
If Im Phil Knight Im telling every 5-star in the country if you're wearing a Ducks uniform I'll will put you in a Nike ad and that ad pays 100K per face.
I mean when the state of OR follows Cali like they always seem to do on everything.
I mean when the state of OR follows Cali like they always seem to do on everything.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:49 am to My2Bits
I hope this goes nationwide and the NCAA gets their reckoning. The NCAA is such a corrupt and greedy organization. I wouldn't mind if this kills college athletics as we know it.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:54 am to The Spleen
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I wouldn't mind if this kills college athletics as we know it.
Well that would suck, you know, as an Alabama fan.
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