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re: Breakout of OU's offense by stats vs tiers of defenses played
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:36 am to remaster916
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:36 am to remaster916
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it is like no one blitzes him
Well, they have a good run game, a great TE and a lot of quick options. I don't have numbers in front of me but I'd guess their passing numbers when blitzed are pretty staggeringly good.
You'd have to pick and choose wisely there.
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:45 am to remaster916
quote:where are the refs from? It's not the big12 at least, the guys who didn't call a single holding call in Clemson on 99 snaps against the best dline in the country by far in the 2016 championship game.
Murray usually has a ton of time to pass, it is like no one blitzes him.
Bama has to keep him contained, but also bring pressure.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 10:47 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:05 am to narddogg81
Their Oline is really good. After watching how UGA blocked our line and was able to hit the quick throws (wheel routes, crossing routes, RB/TE short throws) this game has me worried. I feel like our dline play won’t be near as important as our LB and backs being able to lock down coverage.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 11:09 am to GAFF
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Their Oline is really good. After watching how UGA blocked our line and was able to hit the quick throws (wheel routes, crossing routes, RB/TE short throws) this game has me worried. I feel like our dline play won’t be near as important as our LB and backs being able to lock down coverage.
Their O-line isn't the same as Georgia's, though. Georgia is unique as they are a downhill punch you in the mouth line. There aren't a whole lot of those left in CFB (I personally love it). Oklahoma is a really good O-line in the same way we are these days - zone blocking, pass protection, etc.
Now, does that mean we are better suited to penetrate it? I'm not sure.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:04 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yea, this game is going to be a nightmare. I feel pretty confident we win
Yea this game will be frustrating and nerve-wracking because Oklahoma will score plenty. I feel pretty confident that we'll score more though. I don't see how they stop us.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:10 pm to bigpapamac
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Yea this game will be frustrating and nerve-wracking because Oklahoma will score plenty. I feel pretty confident that we'll score more though. I don't see how they stop us.
If we play a solid game on offense and don't give away points I feel very confident we outscore them.
If we give them points then it's anybody's ballgame.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
It’s like I mentioned to you before George this is going to be a fight and my age will increase significantly. Oklahoma will be ready, it’s a fact.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
This is the part that pisses me off about the heisman. If tua got to play his first 8 games of the schedule but for 13 it’s one of the biggest heisman blowouts in recent memory.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Clemson’s 1? Hard to believe when I’ve said them twice get shredded by the only capable offenses they played against. Must have stat stuffed so much against the garbage offenses they played
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:41 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Oklahoma will be ready, it’s a fact.
No doubt about it. For anyone who thinks otherwise, turn on the tape from the 1st half against Georgia. Lincoln had a plan and they executed it to perfection.
They are gonna play cocky, fast and with a good plan. We just have to understand that. I know our players will, and I know theoretically I will, but I'll probably still freak out and melt and almost die
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:44 pm to Kcstills17
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Clemson’s 1? Hard to believe when I’ve said them twice get shredded by the only capable offenses they played against. Must have stat stuffed so much against the garbage offenses they played
Yea, I'm not sure - but then again, look at that Top 10. Everyone has been shredded. I think in this day and age it's just impossible to shut everyone down.
- Clemson was shredded through the air by A&M and USC
- Michigan was shredded by OSU
- Michigan State was semi-shredded by Utah State, Northwestern and Ohio State (their pace keeps scores way down)
- Washington was shredded by Oregon and to some extent Stanford and Oregon State
- Notre Dame hasn't played an explosive offense yet
- Mississippi State got run over by Kentucky
Defense in college football is just impossible now.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
True but while we’ve given up yards probably in more games than the others we haven’t been shredded yet. And that’s white playing a top 5 offense and uga and we performed much better vs A&M than Clemson did.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Defense is all about causing havoc plays now. 2 or 3 turnovers, key sacks and a few drive stops and count on your offense to do better. Alabama actually benefits more in this new style because we will always field at least a top 3/4 talent wise defense while pulling offensive talent that few other teams can dream of.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:47 pm to Kcstills17
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True but while we’ve given up yards probably in more games than the others we haven’t been shredded yet. And that’s white playing a top 5 offense and uga and we performed much better vs A&M than Clemson did.
Yea, I don't disagree. Clemson is a shut down defense.......unless they play a team that has athletes out wide and a QB who can stay in the pocket and throw it to them.
So, while they are probably better against 90% of teams than anyone else, they have a fatal flaw against a smaller % of teams.........their problem is they will 100% face one of those teams in the CFP Final in us or Oklahoma. Their secondary is average at the very best, and their LBs are average in coverage at the very best.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
OKLAHOMA HATE TIME BUMP
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:19 am to SummerOfGeorge
If you guys are worried maybe y'all should watch both ok vs Texas games. Ok had trouble scoring early vs ut . Beyond that ut's defensive secondary is awful. I'm not sure that they know how to play pass defense. You guys may be stressing for no reason.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 7:58 am to Tuscaloosahonor
quote:I agree. We may have trouble simulating Kyler in practice, but OU has no way to approach simulating an entire defense. They don't have one and they haven't seen one all season.
You guys may be stressing for no reason.
Of course, everyone said Bama hadn't played a defense up until mid-season and we know how that turned out.
This will be the typical Bama game against good competition where we have to weather the fury of the first couple drives, adjust where necessary and begin to tighten the noose. OU will do everything it can to get out to a quick lead knowing they can't stop us from scoring and hoping they can make it a track meet.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:52 am to Bamadiver
I expect the 1st half to be a track meet. We can’t simulate their offense adequately in practice so it will be adjustments made in the 1st half and at the break that will make the difference.
Their offensive line scares me. They are elite and while we have excellent talent on D, if they are allowed to hold which I suspect will happen (a good officiating crew is going to let them play and get involved as little as possible), Murray will have all day. It’s time for Buggs, Q, Davis to earn their scholarship and play angry for 60 minutes. We’re talking enraged beast mode. You can’t blitz often, they will kill you. Secondary needs to lock down, turn and find the ball, and get some picks. Don’t lose Calcaterra in the scrum, he’s deadly.
Offensively, should be easy. They suck stopping both, but worse against the pass. Take whatever they give you. I’d start off leaning pass heavy unless they are in dime then I’d feed the Harris’s and Baby Rhino until they get out of it.
I do think it’s important that the coaches drill it into Tuas head that he’s not there to show up Murray. We don’t need 80 yard bombs every play just to show up the Heisman winner. Get the ball in the hands of our playmakers and let them work. OU can’t possibly contain them. A 5 yard throw with a 70 yard YAC TD counts the same as the bomb. Tua has to remember that. Just get the W and survive and advance.
Their offensive line scares me. They are elite and while we have excellent talent on D, if they are allowed to hold which I suspect will happen (a good officiating crew is going to let them play and get involved as little as possible), Murray will have all day. It’s time for Buggs, Q, Davis to earn their scholarship and play angry for 60 minutes. We’re talking enraged beast mode. You can’t blitz often, they will kill you. Secondary needs to lock down, turn and find the ball, and get some picks. Don’t lose Calcaterra in the scrum, he’s deadly.
Offensively, should be easy. They suck stopping both, but worse against the pass. Take whatever they give you. I’d start off leaning pass heavy unless they are in dime then I’d feed the Harris’s and Baby Rhino until they get out of it.
I do think it’s important that the coaches drill it into Tuas head that he’s not there to show up Murray. We don’t need 80 yard bombs every play just to show up the Heisman winner. Get the ball in the hands of our playmakers and let them work. OU can’t possibly contain them. A 5 yard throw with a 70 yard YAC TD counts the same as the bomb. Tua has to remember that. Just get the W and survive and advance.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 8:54 am
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:04 am to phil4bama
I go back and forth between thinking OU is going to score 50 points, and we're going to shut them down pretty well.
If I'm completely honest, my gut tells me they're basically Ole Miss playing in a shitty conference.
If our LB's can figure out how to cover TE's and RB's out of the backfield, I'm not too worried.
If I'm completely honest, my gut tells me they're basically Ole Miss playing in a shitty conference.
If our LB's can figure out how to cover TE's and RB's out of the backfield, I'm not too worried.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:22 am to phil4bama
quote:I don't agree. We are virtually identical. We've also retooled our D to be more effective against guys like Tyler.
We can’t simulate their offense adequately in practice
quote:It's an unknown to be sure. I want to say they haven't played anyone, but the same was said about us. I've watched a little film on them and they certainly pass the eye test.
Their offensive line scares me.
I'm not convinced they've truly been punched in the mouth yet.
quote:100% agree.
if they are allowed to hold which I suspect will happen
quote:I think with almost a month off to heal this has a high chance of happening.
It’s time for Buggs, Q, Davis to earn their scholarship and play angry for 60 minutes. We’re talking enraged beast mode.
quote:I don't know about pass heavy. I'd run our normaly play selection and see what OU has worked on in prep time. In the end, I think we need to eat clock. This is actually my primary concern. Our play calling the last few weeks of the season was abysmal. Whether that was due to injuries or lack of focus, who knows? It was inconsistent and unimaginative.
I’d start off leaning pass heavy unless they are in dime then I’d feed the Harris’s and Baby Rhino until they get out of it.
I was kind of hoping that Enos would be calling plays from here on out.
quote:This is my secondary concern. It was obvious that Tua was pressing against UGA for this very reason. Perhaps if he doesn't try to spin out of that tackle early in the first quarter he blows UGA up. We'll never know. No matter what he has accomplished, he's still learning.
I do think it’s important that the coaches drill it into Tuas head that he’s not there to show up Murray.
quote:100%
Just get the W and survive and advance.
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