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Posted on 4/3/21 at 3:09 pm to Chad4Bama
Posted on 4/3/21 at 3:09 pm to Chad4Bama
Again, these guys make it sound like it’s impossible to miss wide open receivers. How many open receivers did that Michigan qb over throw in the citrus bowl? I’m not saying Mac is a sure bet, but to crap on him because he is surrounded by elite players and makes the throws he is supposed to, is stupid.
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 3:44 pm to Chad4Bama
In the last decade, guys like Brady, Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, and Eli Manning have won SB MVP. None of them are considered dual threat guys. Yeah they’re mostly older QBs but they prove it’s still possible to be successful with a traditional pocket passer.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 4:19 pm to Chad4Bama
How many dual threat elite QB came from OSU that have all shite the bed in these past 5-7 years. The list is long.
Blank will draft a black QB to put butts in seats in Atlanta.
Mack might not be Joe Willie but the QB from NDS is pure fools gold.
Blank will draft a black QB to put butts in seats in Atlanta.
Mack might not be Joe Willie but the QB from NDS is pure fools gold.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 4:55 pm to 1BamaRTR
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they prove it’s still possible to be successful with a traditional pocket passer.
I would argue it's the ONLY way to be successful. "Athletic" QBs aren't winning championships. You want a QB that can move around in the pocket when needed, but you don't need an Olympic athlete back there. You need a smart, accurate QB with enough arm talent to make all the throws with leadership qualities. Your Tom Brady or Joe Montana.
Posted on 4/3/21 at 4:59 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Troy Smith. Terelle Pryor.Braxton Miller.The Conductor Barrett(as "Sugar" Gus Johnson called him 
Last year he called them "The World Famous ohio state bbbbbbuckeyes!!!!!).CARdale,Haskins.The Ga. transfer. These guys ALL have 2 things in common.1 is that NONE of them were EVER developed with any thought or desire by the Coaches to make them NFL QBs.Especially by Pinnochio...They were put in place for ohio to dominate a weak league as far as athleticism goes.Nothing more...Nothing less
Last year he called them "The World Famous ohio state bbbbbbuckeyes!!!!!).CARdale,Haskins.The Ga. transfer. These guys ALL have 2 things in common.1 is that NONE of them were EVER developed with any thought or desire by the Coaches to make them NFL QBs.Especially by Pinnochio...They were put in place for ohio to dominate a weak league as far as athleticism goes.Nothing more...Nothing less
Posted on 4/5/21 at 11:21 am to viceman
People are shitting on Mac for the talent gap and there is some truth to it. But is there not a similar talent gap between Ohio State vs. the B1G, Clemson vs. the ACC, and North Dakota State and the rest of the FCS? Hell BYU was probably more talented than anyone in the Sun Belt schedule they played last year
Do any of those teams lose a bunch of games if Mac is their QB? Honestly their seasons would probably go about the same
Do any of those teams lose a bunch of games if Mac is their QB? Honestly their seasons would probably go about the same
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 11:23 am
Posted on 4/5/21 at 11:38 am to Chad4Bama
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I would argue it's the ONLY way to be successful. "Athletic" QBs aren't winning championships. You want a QB that can move around in the pocket when needed, but you don't need an Olympic athlete back there. You need a smart, accurate QB with enough arm talent to make all the throws with leadership qualities. Your Tom Brady or Joe Montana.
It's not the only way, but pure running ability has become significantly overvalued by NFL FOs with respect to QBs. QBs need to know how to run to throw, not run to run. NFL defenses will give up a 6 yard scramble all day long. What they don't want to deal with is a QB who can sidestep a pass rush and immediately deliver a ball to a receiver in stride 17 yards downfield. Those are the plays that make Mahomes so deadly.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 3:30 pm to Robot Santa
Posted on 4/5/21 at 3:40 pm to Robot Santa
Lamar Jackson received the MVP award and all of a sudden people think that's the "future" of the position. I don't think so. He's still not a great passer and while he might "put pressure on a defense" so did Michael Vick. Winning championships is the goal.
I see Carolina traded for Darnold. If Mac doesn't go #3, he might slide to New England at #15, unless someone moves up.
I see Carolina traded for Darnold. If Mac doesn't go #3, he might slide to New England at #15, unless someone moves up.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:13 pm to Chad4Bama
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Athletic" QBs aren't winning championships.
Mahomes is an athletic QB. As is Rodgers. They’re QBs who can run but are almost always pass first guys. They primarily use their athletic ability to avoid pressure and extend plays long enough for a receiver to get open. Like ducking out of 2 pass rushers and throwing a 50 yard pass on the run. That’s what people mean when they say athletic. Not just guys like Lamar Jackson
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:03 pm to 1BamaRTR
Maybe, but then again, Mac ran the 40 faster than Mahomes did...yet they act like Mac is stuck in concrete in the pocket while Mahomes is God's gift to QBs. Now Mahomes has proven himself in the NFL and Mac hasn't...he could be a bust for all I know, but the narrative some are trying to spin is BS.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:39 pm to Chad4Bama
Being athletic is more then just running a 40 yard dash. It’s also about lateral quickness, agility, and footwork. Mahomes is thought about so highly not because of his 40 but because a lot of other things. There’s no reason to compare the two. I only brought him up because he shows it’s possible to be a successful QB as a pure pocket passer or as an athletic type.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 8:39 am to TidalSurge1
Todd McShay reveals Steve Sarkisian's evaluation of Mac Jones (247)
McShay: Najee Harris 'did wonders for his draft stock' in 2020 (247)
McShay: Najee Harris 'did wonders for his draft stock' in 2020 (247)
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 9:33 am
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:16 pm to 1BamaRTR
Yes, I'm aware being "athletic" is about more than the 40 time...but 99% of fans would not have thought Mac was faster than Mahomes. There's a false narrative... that's my point.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:00 pm to Chad4Bama
Well, if you had said this one year ago you probably would have been ridiculed.
All indications point to Mac Jones being the first Alabama player picked in this year's draft.
Smith, Waddle, and Surtain will be the next three off the board (not necessarily in that order) and all appear to be close to locks to go in the top 15. They could potentially all be gone by 10, but unlikely.
Many mocks lately are absent of Barmore in the first round, so his stock appears to be slipping. On the other hand, Dickerson has made his way into the first round of some legitimate draft guys.
Najee and Leatherwood appear to be solidly in the second round, but Najee is still on the first round radar of a couple of teams - namely Miami and Pittsburgh, while Leatherwood has been linked with the Bucs, Chiefs and Redskins in the first so there is a decent chance of six first rounders this year with a long-shot possibility of seven.
**This is all off the top of my head from looking at some of the latest from mock draft guys.
All indications point to Mac Jones being the first Alabama player picked in this year's draft.
Smith, Waddle, and Surtain will be the next three off the board (not necessarily in that order) and all appear to be close to locks to go in the top 15. They could potentially all be gone by 10, but unlikely.
Many mocks lately are absent of Barmore in the first round, so his stock appears to be slipping. On the other hand, Dickerson has made his way into the first round of some legitimate draft guys.
Najee and Leatherwood appear to be solidly in the second round, but Najee is still on the first round radar of a couple of teams - namely Miami and Pittsburgh, while Leatherwood has been linked with the Bucs, Chiefs and Redskins in the first so there is a decent chance of six first rounders this year with a long-shot possibility of seven.
**This is all off the top of my head from looking at some of the latest from mock draft guys.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:09 pm to Bham Bammer
I've seen Najee in a lot of first round mocks. It's just going to depend on if any team needs an RB enough to spend a 1st round pick on him. The thing that has confused me recently is seeing Smitty sliding down a lot of people's mocks. Most ones I've seen recently have Chase, Waddle, and Pitts all going before him. Saw one that had him slide all the way to 19th.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:26 pm to RollTide33
Steelers need a RB. Hope they take him.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:28 pm to RollTide33
Lowest one I've seen is 16 but I just don't believe it. Some teams will be hung up on his size and for that reason may not value him as highly as others, but there's just no way a guy as good as him drops that far. I still have to think he's gone in the top 10.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:03 pm to Bham Bammer
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Many mocks lately are absent of Barmore in the first round, so his stock appears to be slipping. On the other hand, Dickerson has made his way into the first round of some legitimate draft guys.
I saw yesterday Barmore was invited to the draft and accepted, I think teams are higher on him than the media. He should go 1st round, especially since IDL is pretty shallow this year.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:16 am to TheNameIsDalton
I don't recall any QB getting so much negativity from a fan base over potentially being picked than what Mac is getting from 49er fans online. It's ridiculous. At this point I hope they pick Winston 2.0 Justin Fields and flop. I'd rather Mac go somewhere with a little more welcoming fan base.
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