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Posted on 8/7/20 at 12:43 pm to bamasgot13
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It's also irrational. 50% of all covid deaths have come from nursing homes (make up about 0.6% of population). 81% come from people 65+. According to the CDC, people age 1 - 24 have made up a total of 230 deaths due to covid (weeks ending 2/1 through 7/29).
If you are a college aged student, you have a significantly better chance of drowning than you do dying from Covid. Are students staying away from pools, lakes, and oceans? Hardly.
Is this virus bad? Absolutely. Especially if you are 65+ or have one of a handful of underlying medical conditions. That said, if you are a college or professional athlete surrounded by incredible medical teams, enhanced nutrition, and a team of people who are financially motivated to keep you healthy, then you are likely in a significantly better position to deal with this than any of your peers.
The outcomes of COVID-19 aren't binary, like "not dead" means that those people are perfectly fine.
A high school classmate of mine is an ex-Marine and a regional champion bodybuilder at 32 years old. He was in the hospital for 3 weeks, on a ventilator in a coma. He was 240lbs on July 4th and he was 180lbs last week when he came home.
But hey! Not dead! Chalk it up as a win in the statistics, Clay Travis.
If I had a 7-8 figures of future income dependent on me being in peak physical condition, you bet your @$$ I would be concerned. 99% survival means I most likely wouldn't die. But that doesn't say anything about my NFL future.
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Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:01 pm to DLev45
but like your high school classmate, you can get it anywhere. If these 18 to 22 yr olds are not at school in a football program, they will likely be running the streets, and exposed to the virus. Most of these kids want to go back to school, whether they are football players or just another student. Its not like they are taking them from a safe environment and putting them in a bad place. If the players starting getting covid, they will shut it down. (which is what I think will happen). But, they will get to see what happens when the NFL plays a few games. If that doesn't go well, college football will never start. So for right now, these SEC football players are probably in a safer environment than at home, have better medical care, and have way better nutrition. If it doesnt work in the early NFL games. they wont put these kids at risk.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 6:00 pm to IB4bama
BOL put up some insider info Today about 2 separate things, can someone paraphrase?
Posted on 8/7/20 at 6:20 pm to rtr12
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Freshman Nuggets. I guess I can kind of summarize them. Roydell Williams has stood out amongst the true freshman running backs. Trey Sanders is special and will push Najee even tho Najee is the clear starter. Javon Baker has cut his 40 time and is a dog. Expect a breakout year from him. Gonna be hard to keep Brian Branch off the field. One of the best athletes in the class. Bryce Young is as expected. Will Anderson is impressive on and off the field and is already a leader on defense... Tim Smith will have to get in shape but should still see playing time.
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Posted on 8/7/20 at 6:24 pm to TidalSurge1
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This post was edited on 8/7/20 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:31 pm to TidalSurge1
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:35 pm to TidalSurge1
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:34 am to TidalSurge1
Taulia Tagovailoa's transfer waiver has been approved (247Sports)
Best wishes for Taulia!
Best wishes for Taulia!
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 5:45 pm to TidalSurge1
Posted on 8/8/20 at 9:35 pm to jatebe
Sure, whatever. I had it 2 weeks ago and was sick for 3 days with a fever, cough, and body aches. I've still got a little bit of a throat-clearing cough but that's it and I'm overweight, so I'm probably in the "at-risk" group. My wife had it too, basically the same as me, although she didn't run much of a fever.
My dad had a rougher time, went to the hospital twice, but mostly because he was dehydrated, his lungs were fine. He's overweight, diabetic, has blood pressure problems, late 50s... He's all good now.
It's way overblown.
My dad had a rougher time, went to the hospital twice, but mostly because he was dehydrated, his lungs were fine. He's overweight, diabetic, has blood pressure problems, late 50s... He's all good now.
It's way overblown.
Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:38 pm to Goombaw
It's overated.... meanwhile, I've had three family member who died from COVID-19, watched my wife who has lupus fighting for her life for a month and half and she was close to death... Oh, then I had my friend who was found dead in his home a week after being diagnosed with COVID-19.... Sure.. it's overrated and that's disrespectful to anyone who had to watch their loved one fight for their life battling covid-19.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:32 am to Goombaw
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Goombaw
I was getting ready to respond to you, but I think Panthers has said all that needs to be said.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:13 am to Panthers4life
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It's overated.... meanwhile, I've had three family member who died from COVID-19, watched my wife who has lupus fighting for her life for a month and half and she was close to death... Oh, then I had my friend who was found dead in his home a week after being diagnosed with COVID-19.... Sure.. it's overrated and that's disrespectful to anyone who had to watch their loved one fight for their life battling covid-19.
I'll add that my 31 yr old friend passed away 2 weeks ago too. He was actually a poster on the TD side of this site.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:22 am to Panthers4life
I hate to hear it, but statistically those are outliers. I'm not trying to be callous toward people suffering, but the vast majority of people that get it aren't going to have those types of symptoms.
This argument is just basically going to come down to my anecdotal evidence versus your anecdotal evidence, because I've had it and known several people that have had it and they've all recovered and their symptoms were mild. I think the the stats say my experience is the more common one.
Life isn't devoid of risk; a percentage of planes are going to crash yet we still fly, people die in car accidents every day yet we still drive... Those are risks we all are willing to take just being alive in this world.
This argument is just basically going to come down to my anecdotal evidence versus your anecdotal evidence, because I've had it and known several people that have had it and they've all recovered and their symptoms were mild. I think the the stats say my experience is the more common one.
Life isn't devoid of risk; a percentage of planes are going to crash yet we still fly, people die in car accidents every day yet we still drive... Those are risks we all are willing to take just being alive in this world.
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:01 am to Goombaw
my cousin died from covid and I don't think it's fair to the families just to dismiss those who died as "outliers".
and the deaths can only be considered outliers due to the fact so many have had this disease and many more will die before it's over. It's affected nearly every thing we do. I don't understand how anybody can pass it off as not much to worry about.
and the deaths can only be considered outliers due to the fact so many have had this disease and many more will die before it's over. It's affected nearly every thing we do. I don't understand how anybody can pass it off as not much to worry about.
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:08 am to Goombaw
The problem with your outlook on COVID, Goombaw, is we still don’t know enough about this disease to say who has a bad cold and lives and who dies. A 7 year old Ga boy died from it yesterday, no underlying conditions. Why did he die? Yeah, statistically, he’s an outlier, but based on what? Until we can answer that with some degree of certainty ( so we can most likely prevent it from happening), nobody is going to want to play Russian roulette with the lives of the people we care about.
And people are going to throw out there the statistics of auto accidents, the flu, etc. but we know what causes those 99% of the time. Because 99% of the time, it involves a definable cause: texting and driving, falling asleep at the wheel, human error. In the case of the flu, it’s an underlying condition; COPD, secondary infection, severe cardiovascular disease. With COVID, we don’t know everything and that scares people. It also kills people. We treated like a severe pneumonia in the beginning because that’s all we knew. But now we know it attacks the lungs, the vascular system, the brain, the heart, and just about every organ system in the body. You were lucky. Your body recognized it as an invader, mounted the correct defense, and fought it off. Many aren’t so lucky and either don’t fight it off or their body responds so violently, it kills them.
To blow off this disease because you and your loved ones are among the fortunate ones that reacted mildly to it is callous and not real intelligent. Because we aren’t even sure you can’t get it again in six months and this time you might not be so lucky.
And people are going to throw out there the statistics of auto accidents, the flu, etc. but we know what causes those 99% of the time. Because 99% of the time, it involves a definable cause: texting and driving, falling asleep at the wheel, human error. In the case of the flu, it’s an underlying condition; COPD, secondary infection, severe cardiovascular disease. With COVID, we don’t know everything and that scares people. It also kills people. We treated like a severe pneumonia in the beginning because that’s all we knew. But now we know it attacks the lungs, the vascular system, the brain, the heart, and just about every organ system in the body. You were lucky. Your body recognized it as an invader, mounted the correct defense, and fought it off. Many aren’t so lucky and either don’t fight it off or their body responds so violently, it kills them.
To blow off this disease because you and your loved ones are among the fortunate ones that reacted mildly to it is callous and not real intelligent. Because we aren’t even sure you can’t get it again in six months and this time you might not be so lucky.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:35 am to bamasgot13
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If you are a college aged student, you have a significantly better chance of drowning than you do dying from Covid. Are students staying away from pools, lakes, and oceans? Hardly.
For this age group, it's not the fear of dying, though that's a small part of it; it's the fear of a medical problem that could happen, even if small.
Some of these guys come from poor families and have worked hard all their lives to be able to get into the NFL and possibly make millions to help their families.
If their medical expert, or even one of their family members say there is a chance, even a small chance, that if they catch this it could damage your heart or lungs and keep you out of the NFL, some will think it's better to just opt out and maybe stay close to home to keep the chance of infection down.
A new medical study has come out about the long term effects on the heart. A small percentage have found to leave behind scars in the heart, known as myocarditis.
Most as you've said are older patients, but now they're finding this in young people even athletes that have been infected.
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In a small percentage of infected patients, COVID-19 leaves behind troubling scars in the throbbing muscle within their chests, known as myocarditis. The virus directly invades the heart muscle, weakening and damaging its cells, through blood clots and inflammatory responses to viral infection. Earlier during the pandemic, doctors only associated the condition with severe and, oftentimes, hospitalized COVID victims, usually elderly patients or those with underlying health problems.
Lately, physicians are identifying the condition in young, healthy Americans — including athletes. “The last month or two, even asymptomatic young people are developing myocardial injury,” Martinez says.
Of all the hurdles impeding a 2020 college football season, there is one roadblock that has gone mostly overshadowed, buried beneath the other more prominent obstacles, such as testing, travel, a bubble-less college campus and quarantine requirements. That hurdle? The heart.
“That’s what has been the final straw,” says a team doctor at a prominent college football program. “The commissioners are finally figuring it all out. The commissioners are going, ‘Oh my gosh!’ And the doctors are like, ‘Yeah...’”
SI - At the Heart of It: Cardiac Inflammation the Next Virus Hurdle for College Leaders
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:38 pm to jatebe
Here’s the problem with allllll of that you just posted. So does not playing guarantee that they will not contract the virus? Here’s the truth that no one wants to say: A bubble for players with online classes and quarantining in dorms with all human contact limited to those that are also in that bubble with multiple tests weekly is exponentially safer than no football, no quarantine, and in person classes. Why isn’t the media posing that scenario? It’s almost as though they have an ulterior motive... 
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:51 pm to JJ27
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A bubble for players with online classes and quarantining in dorms with all human contact limited to those that are also in that bubble with multiple tests weekly is exponentially safer than no football, no quarantine, and in person classes.
I don't disagree with you, but the problem is that the scale of that bubble is exponentially greater than what the NBA has had success with. You'd basically have to quarantine everyone associated with the athletics department who can't work exclusively from home. That's hundreds of people at just one school. Thousands over an entire conference. It can work in theory, but in practice is a whole other story.
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