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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I find the article funny but maybe because it is coming from the CDC and government officials. NC in May had already developed those steps for the fall and I assume we were not the first state to do so.
The CDC since this has started has seem to be 5 steps behind regarding anything surrounding the virus. I will not get into a debate over the political agendas of so many decision makers but an organization like the CDC should have been better prepared to handle this and been ahead of this the whole time not following suit of what other organizations and countries have already implemented.
And yes I agree to what is in there but that is already been plan A for the fall but now we are moving to plan B it seems.
The CDC since this has started has seem to be 5 steps behind regarding anything surrounding the virus. I will not get into a debate over the political agendas of so many decision makers but an organization like the CDC should have been better prepared to handle this and been ahead of this the whole time not following suit of what other organizations and countries have already implemented.
And yes I agree to what is in there but that is already been plan A for the fall but now we are moving to plan B it seems.
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:26 pm to bamameister
My son was diagnosed with covid19 today. Three folks in my house have all the symptoms so I’ve got to assume the same diagnosis. I had pneumonia for nine months last year and a couple of lung biopsies so I’m scared.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:33 pm to Diogenes
Hope all goes well . Will pray for you 
Kinda nervous myself . Young kid at our house July 4-6 just got tested with 104 fever
Kinda nervous myself . Young kid at our house July 4-6 just got tested with 104 fever
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:04 pm to TideWarrior
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The CDC since this has started has seem to be 5 steps behind regarding anything surrounding the virus.
Yep
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The June 28 email to the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was ominous: A senior adviser to a top Health and Human Services Department official accused the CDC of “undermining the President” by putting out a report about the potential risks of the coronavirus to pregnant women.
The adviser, Paul Alexander, criticized the agency’s methods, and said its warning to pregnant women “reads in a way to frighten women .?.?. as if the President and his administration can’t fix this and it is getting worse.”
The latest clash between the White House and its top public health advisers erupted Wednesday, when the president slammed the agency’s recommendation that schools planning to reopen should keep students’ desks six feet apart, among other steps to reduce infection risks. In a tweet, Trump — who has demanded schools at all levels hold in-person classes this fall — called the advice “very tough & expensive.”
“While they want them open, they are asking schools to do very impractical things. I will be meeting with them!!!” Trump tweeted Wednesday. Within hours, Vice President Pence had asserted the agency would release new guidance next week.
“The president said today we just don’t want the guidance to be too tough,” Pence told reporters. “And that’s the reason next week the CDC is going to be issuing a new set of tools.”
The adviser, Paul Alexander, criticized the agency’s methods, and said its warning to pregnant women “reads in a way to frighten women .?.?. as if the President and his administration can’t fix this and it is getting worse.”
The latest clash between the White House and its top public health advisers erupted Wednesday, when the president slammed the agency’s recommendation that schools planning to reopen should keep students’ desks six feet apart, among other steps to reduce infection risks. In a tweet, Trump — who has demanded schools at all levels hold in-person classes this fall — called the advice “very tough & expensive.”
“While they want them open, they are asking schools to do very impractical things. I will be meeting with them!!!” Trump tweeted Wednesday. Within hours, Vice President Pence had asserted the agency would release new guidance next week.
“The president said today we just don’t want the guidance to be too tough,” Pence told reporters. “And that’s the reason next week the CDC is going to be issuing a new set of tools.”
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:15 pm to TideWarrior
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This came up either in April or May when many in medical profession were debating how to best utilize resources. I believe some hospitals in Chicago and maybe NYC were talking about no recitation for covid patients. To much risk and waste of resources.
Not sure about Chicago but the NYC "idea" -- it was never implemented due to widespread criticism -- was specifically non-resuscitation on EMT calls.
The logic wasn't primarily to free hospital space but due to a crisis of available EMTs.
They reported that calls were coming in 5x greater than normal at the same time nearly 40% of the city's EMT force was already quarantined or sick with Covid.
It was a desperation idea that could address the quickly increasing response times (to calls where someone had a much better chance to survive if EMTs arrived quickly) and also trying to keep the remaining EMTs from getting infected.
On a side note, this is another example of where people who witnessed what happened here in NY get put out with all the "conspiracy theory to make it look worse" "it's just fearmongering" and the "let's blame anything but Covid for deaths" crowd.
It's directly insulting to any of those that witnessed it and much more so to the people that risked their lives caring for patients (or just having to take to subway daily then to a ConEd job to make sure electricity came on every day).
Many people in NYC that died of heart attack etc during late March and April who may have survived any other time didn't die "because of the lockdown" but specifically because of the havoc Covid was reeking.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:19 pm to wm72
Mississippi 5 largest hospitals out of ICU beds
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:28 pm to Bear88
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TideWarrior
Meant to tell you the former Sec of Education , a woman , who lives /is from NC ? Handled herself very well on CBS this morning about schools and Gayle King who was asking some tough questions regarding Trump and reopening
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:27 pm to bamameister
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They have nowhere near the same economic interest as power 5 conferences.
That isn't the real issue. They don't have scholarships to worry about.
A school like Alabama still has 500 athletes who get tuition, unlimited meals, housing stipends, COA stipends, etc. Millions in athletic department salaries. The university can't carry that for too long without football to pay those bills.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:10 pm to Diogenes
Your family is in my thoughts and prayers.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:15 pm to Diogenes
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The president said today we just don’t want the guidance to be too tough,” Pence told reporters. “And that’s the reason next week the CDC is going to be issuing a new set of tools.”
Former Sec of Ed was on CBS today and said states are not looking to Washington for advice and the threat of the 12% Federal money would not affect decisions . Said each state and community will stand on their own . Who knows ?
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:32 pm to Diogenes
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The president said today we just don’t want the guidance to be too tough,” Pence told reporters. “And that’s the reason next week the CDC is going to be issuing a new set of tools.”
Former Sec of Ed was on CBS today and said states are not looking to Washington for advice and the threat of the 12% Federal money would not affect decisions . Said each state and community will stand on their own . Who knows ?
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:39 pm to Bear88
Florida had 120 COVID19 deaths reported today, including an 11 year old. It shattered the previous one day mark of 83 a couple of months ago. Hospitalizations are rising too. The news is grim.
Alabama Panhellenic announced today that Bid Day would be via email. Rush is completely virtual now I think. With this announcement and the prospect of fall sports not happening, including football, I am going to have to have another tough conversation with my daughter, strongly recommending a gap year. College wasn’t meant to be virtual; that’s an empty shadow, an illusion of what is supposed to be. I don’t want it to be like that for her. And i also have a hard time contemplating paying out of state rates for her to sit in a dorm room taking classes virtually, to be in a sorority virtually, while the price tag will almost certainly remain the same as for the real experience. I give up, COVID wins. Maybe next year will be better.
Alabama Panhellenic announced today that Bid Day would be via email. Rush is completely virtual now I think. With this announcement and the prospect of fall sports not happening, including football, I am going to have to have another tough conversation with my daughter, strongly recommending a gap year. College wasn’t meant to be virtual; that’s an empty shadow, an illusion of what is supposed to be. I don’t want it to be like that for her. And i also have a hard time contemplating paying out of state rates for her to sit in a dorm room taking classes virtually, to be in a sorority virtually, while the price tag will almost certainly remain the same as for the real experience. I give up, COVID wins. Maybe next year will be better.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:59 pm to Diogenes
Praying you will all avoid serious complications and be well soon!
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:57 pm to phil4bama
Im afraid we waited too long to take this seriously.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:11 am to stomp
C’mon Stomp, it’s just the flu. When are we going to close our eyes and pretend it doesn’t exist? That seems to be the popular thing to do.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 12:12 am
Posted on 7/10/20 at 5:46 am to phil4bama
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Florida had 120 COVID19 deaths reported today, including an 11 year old. It shattered the previous one day mark of 83 a couple of months ago. Hospitalizations are rising too. The news is grim.
DeSantis and Kemp must have some morbid bet going to see who can kill more of their own citizens. Prison would be a more appropriate place for both of them than their current offices.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 6:30 am to Robot Santa
More newly recognized effects of this shite. LINK
Posted on 7/10/20 at 8:55 am to phil4bama
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Alabama Panhellenic announced today that Bid Day would be via email. Rush is completely virtual now I think. With this announcement and the prospect of fall sports not happening, including football, I am going to have to have another tough conversation with my daughter, strongly recommending a gap year. College wasn’t meant to be virtual; that’s an empty shadow, an illusion of what is supposed to be. I don’t want it to be like that for her. And i also have a hard time contemplating paying out of state rates for her to sit in a dorm room taking classes virtually, to be in a sorority virtually, while the price tag will almost certainly remain the same as for the real experience. I give up, COVID wins. Maybe next year will be better.
I'm going to predict that for colleges with students on campus this fall, at least 75% of them will end up with COVID by Christmas.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 8:55 am
Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:26 am to Diogenes
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My son was diagnosed with covid19 today. Three folks in my house have all the symptoms so I’ve got to assume the same diagnosis. I had pneumonia for nine months last year and a couple of lung biopsies so I’m scared.
Sad to hear my friend. I wish you and your family the very best of health. I've been personally trying to understand some medical techniques that countries are using that seem to be truly helping patients get through this thing.
The UK is highly touting the corticosteroid dexamethasone that has saved a lot of lives over there.
It's being used in a wide range of conditions for its anti-inflammatory and immunosuppressant effects. It's apparently really helping COVID patients get the needed oxygen in their system that otherwise wasn't happening.
UK's clinical trial show a decrease in mortality of 33% for patients on ventilators and 20% for patients on oxygen only, with no serious side effect.
I know you are doing your own homework, just sharing some things that are especially intriguing to me at this time, just in case.
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