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Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24633 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:28 pm to
Prayers up for you and yours TS. If yall need anything just holler and I will do what I can as I am just over in Elmore County.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75835 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:39 pm to
Thanks, brother.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:13 pm to
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She has not had any symptoms whatsoever and neither have I.



Hope it stays that way.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:13 pm to
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I am just over in Elmore County.


Small world. Me too.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24633 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:25 pm to
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And now she's on the phone with the Department of Health and Safety. I guess the doctor's office contacted them.


Lawd, she’s gonna be mad as a hornet
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 6:11 pm to
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In Alabama they already have it. The University can invoke sovereign immunity pretty much as it wishes.


I had to look that up because I heard someone say that about another state but that is not actually the case, at least not completely. It is interesting reading the cases that have been challenged and how the AL State Supreme Court handled it. If a federal law is broken it will not protect the state agency.

quote:

These two cases do not declare new law in the State of Alabama. They do reaffirm that state institutions, including the state’s institutions of higher education, and its officials in their official capacity enjoy a large measure of protection from litigation claiming monetary damages due to the doctrine of sovereign immunity. State officials can be sued for mandamus, requiring the officials to do their legal duty, and for declaratory judgments, seeking prospective, non-monetary relief.


The only cases I have seen the US Supreme Court step is when a violation of the 14th amendment has transpired and they will allow for the state to be sued and ignore any immunity at that point.

Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 6:12 pm to
I hope you guys have a speedy recovery(whatever that entails)
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 6:15 pm to
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If they can't get some sort of tort protection, I would expect them to attempt a waiver system. I've already seen it around a little bit (locally).


I am not sure how they can sue a college. No one is being forced to attend in the fall. And for the majority that do they can take classes online.

The only concern is maybe someone local that feels they were exposed to people from out of the area coming to campus. Doubt it would stick in the end though.
Posted by CrimsonShadow
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2015
1278 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:59 pm to
Hope she continues to have no symptoms and you do not have it. Lots of people never have symptoms, maybe neither of you will.
Praying for you both!
Posted by CrimsonShadow
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2015
1278 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:02 pm to
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We haven't been celibate at all during the stay at home order so I know I got it.


Maybe that's the secret cure!
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75835 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:24 pm to
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Maybe that's the secret cure!



Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:31 pm to
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I am not sure how they can sue a college. No one is being forced to attend in the fall. And for the majority that do they can take classes online.



That's my thought as well.

On the sovereign immunity thing - it does not keep state government entities from getting sued. The state of Alabama gets sued all the time in both federal and state courts. The largest (number of attorney wise) division in the Attorney General's office is the one tasked with defending the state from claims. At the state level, they have to first file a claim with risk management. If that's denied then they move on to the suit phase. The immunity claim will come into play but it goes out the window if gross negligence is involved. I helped work on a case where a woman on O2 burned herself up smoking the cigarettes provided by the DHR employee assigned to check on her. The goal of that case was to keep the settlement below the $1,000,000 max damage cap you can get from successfully suing Alabama in state court.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:43 am to
TideSaint, glad to hear yall are asymptomatic! Praying it stays that way!
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22511 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 11:56 am to
If you look at the 7 day average, Tuscaloosa has the 2nd most cases in that span. They were doing well for a while. Montgomery will probably overtake Jefferson for most cases at some point at the rate they’re going. Good thing for them is they don’t have nearly as many deaths as place like Mobile.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62712 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 9:52 pm to
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Tuscaloosa has the 2nd most cases

Hasn’t it mostly been Forest manor nursing home , the jail, and a mention of Bryce?
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 10:09 pm to
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Good thing for them is they don’t have nearly as many deaths as place like Mobile.


Im starting to wonder if hospitals are finding a solution that they didn't know to use early on to keep people from dying. Seems like the deaths are slowing compared to the rise in cases.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 10:27 pm to
Learning better ways to treat is certainly part of it. Another part MAY be that there have been some studies that suggest it has migrated to be even more contagious but less deadly.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22511 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 7:51 am to
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Seems like the deaths are slowing compared to the rise in cases.

A good chunk of these death in every state (except for places like NY somehow) are from nursing homes. If it’s finally being contained there, that could explain it.

Also at one point, most everywhere in the US was primarily testing people who showed obvious symptoms and were more serious. But now a lot of places are testing everybody. A number of companies are testing all their workers, hospitals are testing all their patients, everyone getting an elective procedures have to be tested first. We’re going to continue to see cases rise. Hopefully death rates fall.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30833 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:34 pm to
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push the talk to political board


The poliboard *IS* a disease.
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