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Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:58 am to phil4bama
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An interesting find on why people respond differently to the coronavirus.
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The biggest problem I have with the actual treatment process in some countries is getting such a late start on attacking this virus once a positive test has been made. Why wait until breathing becomes a critical issue? Once the immune system breaks down for a lot of people it can be over and out.
A lack of oxygen and inflammation are 2 big deals associated with the epidemic. Building a patient up as quickly as possible makes the most sense. One friend that already has a number of health issues is being given prednisone as a preventer. Turns out the steroid has already helped her get back on her feet from previous ailments and she is actually doing so much more physically than she has been able to in years.
I was reading where EPO is being used in COVID treatment in some countries. It seems like all the good doping drugs that have been used and abused by athletes in all sports are still the best way to build up a patient's stamina before and after you come in contact with this stuff. EPO as most sports fans know is super for introducing an obscene amount of oxygen into the system and Lance Armstrong and marathon type sports absolutely love the stuff. It also has an anti-inflammation property to it which almost makes it perfect for what ails you with this virus. Patients with kidney failure know this product well. EPO provides much-needed oxygen for those on hemodialysis.
In short, if you are an athlete in almost any sport you are probably already doing a lot of things that make getting this disease a lot less risky.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:17 am to bamameister
US reaches 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases
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ROME (AP) — The confirmed number of coronavirus cases in the U.S. reached 5 million Sunday, by far the highest in the world, according to the tally kept by Johns Hopkins University.
However, health officials believe that for every reported case, there are roughly 10 times as many people infected, given the limits on testing and the large number of mild infections that have unreported or unrecognized.
The bleak milestone was reached as new cases in the U.S. run at about 54,000 a day. While that’s down from a peak of well over 70,000 in the second half of July, cases are rising in nearly 20 states, and deaths are climbing in most. Many Americans have resisted wearing masks and social distancing.
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“We Italians always saw America as a model,” said Massimo Franco, a columnist with daily Corriere della Sera. “But with this virus we’ve discovered a country that is very fragile, with bad infrastructure and a public health system that is nonexistent.”
Italian Health Minister Roberto Speranza hasn’t shied away from criticizing the U.S., officially condemning as “wrong” Washington’s decision to withhold funding from the World Health Organization and expressing amazement at President Donald Trump’s virus response.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 11:03 am to jatebe
Posted on 8/9/20 at 11:23 am to jatebe
Reported as of July 23
Posted on 8/9/20 at 11:31 am to jatebe
Posted on 8/9/20 at 11:31 am to jatebe
Yeah that’s not going to be followed 
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:06 pm to jatebe
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“We Italians always saw America as a model,” said Massimo Franco, a columnist with daily Corriere della Sera. “But with this virus we’ve discovered a country that is very fragile, with bad infrastructure and a public health system that is nonexistent.”
His country has a 17% death rate from the virus, yet the AP seeks out Italians to criticize American health care and provide political commentary.
This virus is a wet dream for people with a political agenda.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 8/9/20 at 1:33 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:Meh. They were one of the first countries to get hit hard and their median age is 7 years older than ours (5th oldest country according to the CIA). They have largely been in control of the virus since May. I don't think they've had more than 400 deaths since May 3 nor more than 100 deaths since May 31.
His country has a 17% death rate from the virus, yet the AP seeks out Italians to criticize American health care and provide political commentary.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 2:01 am to pvilleguru
Virus seems to have flattened. The weak have already gotten it. Seems like the downward spiral will begin soon.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:42 am to Lemonpuppy
And throughout this big spike in cases in July there has not been a concurrent rise in deaths. They have stayed relatively similar over the last several months. Meaning less people at risk are contracting the virus, all the while testing has dramatically increased over the last several months.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:56 am to jatebe
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UGA ISSUES COVID SEXUAL GUIDANCE TO STUDENTS
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:28 am to train1523
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And throughout this big spike in cases in July there has not been a concurrent rise in deaths. They have stayed relatively similar over the last several months.
What? That isn't true at all.
7D MA US Deaths
July 1 - 560
August 1 - 1,123
101% rise
7D MA US Daily Cases
June 10 (3 weeks earlier) - 21,048
July 10 (3 weeks earlier) - 72,320
244% rise
Deaths in Arizona, California, Florida, Texas, Georgia, South Carolina, etc all went up 2-4x. You can argue that deaths are low and therefore it's not a big deal, but there is no argument to be made that deaths didn't also increase significantly (if not at a similar rate) 3-4 weeks in arrears.
7 Day Moving Average Deaths : July 7 vs August 2
Texas
July 7 - 53
August 2 - 222
319% rise
Florida
July 7 - 48
August 2 - 175
265% rise
California
July 7 - 70
August 2 - 131
87% rise
Louisiana
July 7 - 14
August 2 - 35
150% rise
South Carolina
July 7 - 15
August 2 - 41
173% rise
Mississippi
July 7 - 13
August 2 - 30
131% rise
Georgia
July 7 - 14
August 2 - 49
250% rise
Alabama
July 7 - 11
August 2 - 22
100% rise
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 8:49 am
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
Death rates are roughly 3 weeks behind case rates. Case rates spiked in early to mid July. This is the follow through. Death rates should start to go down very soon.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:44 am to phil4bama
Rumors about Dr. Eric Mackey, State Superintendent of Education, making some sort of big statement today.
Anyone hearing anything about this?
Anyone hearing anything about this?
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You’re right, there has been a national rise in total deaths compared to approximately a month ago. On a national scale while cases were up approximately 3+ times what they were on a 7 day average in late May and most of June, the death rate (again, nationally) has increased about 30%.
That’s why I used the term “concurrent” which means trending along the same lines, which again, has not happened.
That’s why I used the term “concurrent” which means trending along the same lines, which again, has not happened.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:16 pm to train1523
Just read an editorial in the paper that says the website most often cited by The White House Coronavirus Task Force, The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation ( IHME) and supposedly conservative , projects 295,000 deaths by December. You guys keep up with this stuff more than me , but are any of you familiar with it ? That seems awfully high for a supposedly conservative site
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:01 pm to Bear88
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Just read an editorial in the paper that says the website most often cited by The White House Coronavirus Task Force, The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation ( IHME) and supposedly conservative , projects 295,000 deaths by December. You guys keep up with this stuff more than me , but are any of you familiar with it ? That seems awfully high for a supposedly conservative site
I don't blame IHME because they are just doing the best they can with the data they have and the inputs they can muster.........but those projections have been off (both low and high) literally every step of the way. There are way too many unknowns and future forks in the road with multiple outcomes to be able to even semi-accurately predict that stuff.
Unfortunately, it's just too clickbaity for the media to ignore or even add a "here are how the previous projections played out".......they just splash the number up there and act shocked.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:09 pm to Bear88
An article I read over the weekend said the WH projections(assuming it meant the task force, and possibly used that same source) show a sharp increase in cases in September and October. Guessing those projections are attributing the rise to schools opening and the start of cold and flu season.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:18 pm to The Spleen
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An article I read over the weekend said the WH projections(assuming it meant the task force, and possibly used that same source) show a sharp increase in cases in September and October. Guessing those projections are attributing the rise to schools opening and the start of cold and flu season.
The problem is they've used what they considered to be applicable indicators for growth/contraction of cases for the last 3-4 months and they've been extremely hit or miss. Again, that's going to happen, we started from a place with almost zero knowledge and were relying on a playbook that was created for a different disease 100 years ago. However, there are still tons of variables at play that could change everything:
- how much longer do people somewhat follow guidelines? The May estimates from IHME had deaths topping out at around 70K, even with reopenings
- what happens in October-February, especially in the colder areas of the country, when people are forced inside for most all activities (somewhat similar to the Sun Belt and California/Arizona in July because of heat)?
- how much do the new precautions taken by most to stop the spread of COVID slow down flu/cold?
- how much better do we get at treating the disease to prevent death? We've gotten much, much better over the last 8-12 weeks at this.
- does COVID mutate again?
Just a whole lot of variables that are really hard to predict for a disease that we are still learning new things about every day. Like I said, the biggest problem isn't the modeling folks - they are doing the best they can with the information they have - it's those who grab the numbers from the models and run around trumpeting them to support their position (whichever it is) without giving proper context to how wide the variations could be from the numbers estimated.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 1:19 pm
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