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Bobby OG Johnson
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want


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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
That is with us needing to cut all physical and social communion, locking ourselves at home for over a month.

Imagine what the numbers would be had we not?


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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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Montgomery is having to divert patients to Birmingham.




There are 1,903 ICU beds in the state of Alabama, FAR more than we have ever needed for COVID. Why the heck do Montgomery hospitals have a shortage? Did people in MGM just not require critical care prior to the virus?


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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
Honestly it's just wild how "safe" in general we all are as humans in this country in 2020.

The general death rates are so incredibly low.


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paperwasp
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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Imagine what the numbers would be had we not?

Aren't we all realistically going to get it at some point, though?

Wasn't the point of this to just slow it down so that the healthcare system could keep up?


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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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There are 1,903 ICU beds in the state of Alabama, FAR more than we have ever needed for COVID.
How many of those are in Birmingham?
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Why the heck do Montgomery hospitals have a shortage?
Montgomery County alone has had over 100 more new cases in the last 2 weeks than Jefferson County.
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Did people in MGM just not require critical care prior to the virus?
Probably not this level. I don't know how the rest of the state is doing, but it looks like a lot of the counties around Montgomery have seen almost half of their total cases have come in the last 14 days.
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wm72
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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There are 1,903 ICU beds in the state of Alabama, FAR more than we have ever needed for COVID. Why the heck do Montgomery hospitals have a shortage? Did people in MGM just not require critical care prior to the virus?



I believe that a lot of the recent Alabama cases are in rural counties near Montgomery (Butler Co etc) and all of the critical hospitalizations from that region go to Montgomery.


The larger factory struggling to stay open due to continued cases that I mentioned in an earlier post has a few patients in Montgomery hospitals even though it's an hour from Montgomery.


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JustGetItRight
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I believe that a lot of the recent Alabama cases are in rural counties near Montgomery (Butler Co etc) and all of the critical hospitalizations from that region go to Montgomery.


Pretty much this - and to go further even if you're in Montgomery if you need truly specialized care in this area you very often get shipped to Birmingham.

The only Level 1 trauma centers in the state are in Birmingham, Huntsville, and Mobile. The closest you get in the Montgomery area is Baptist South, which is a level 2. I've been diverted from Jackson with a GSW because they didn't have a surgeon on duty. In Montgomery. On a Saturday night.

Trauma care ability doesn't exactly translate to Corona cases but it does in that it gives an indication of the limited resources that are available in this area to treat people that are really sick or hurt.

Edited to add - if you travel a lot between Birmingham and central Alabama take a glance at the names on the sides of some of the ambulances you see running north balls to the wall. You'll very often see Haynes, Care, and Alex City FD. Last Saturday I saw a Dothan Ambulance service truck. Every time you see one that's a patient going from a Montgomery area hospital to Birmingham.
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mre
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
Rt up to 0.99 is concerning.


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wm72
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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Aren't we all realistically going to get it at some point, though?

Wasn't the point of this to just slow it down so that the healthcare system could keep up?


I suppose also that research would yield much more effective treatments so that getting a bad case of it July would result in much better treatment than the same case in April.

Not really sure that has panned out as well as hoped though, so far.



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TideWarrior
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
NC is moving to phase 2 of the 3 phase plan on Friday

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Gov. Roy Cooper will lift his stay-at-home order at 5 p.m. Friday and move the state into the second stage of a three-phase plan to resume business and social activities during the pandemic. But he called it a "safer-at-home" effort in scaling back earlier plans.


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Now, restaurants, hair and nail salons, barbershops and swimming pools can reopen at 50 percent of their allowed capacity. But bars, gyms, movie theaters and playgrounds will remain closed for now.

Cooper also expanded the limit on outdoor gatherings to 25 people, up from 10. Indoor gatherings will remain capped at 10 people.


Phase is suppose to last for at least 5 weeks but could be extended if numbers spike.


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Research from the University of North Carolina's Business School found that, in the U.S., governors up for re-election on average implemented more executive actions in response to the COVID-19 pandemic than governors not up for re-election. An average of 21 more executive orders were issued in states with governors up for re-election, researchers said, noting "this may indicate that election pressures have affected the state response" to the pandemic.


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TideWarrior
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Strong concern about a second wave of coronavirus infections is reinforcing widespread opposition among Americans to reopening public places, a new poll finds, even as many state leaders step up efforts to return to life before the pandemic.


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The poll finds that 83% of Americans are at least somewhat concerned that lifting restrictions in their area will lead to additional infections, with 54% saying they are very or extremely concerned that such steps will result in a spike of COVID-19 cases.


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About 8 in 10 Americans say that it's essential to reopening for people to return to self-quarantine if they are exposed to the virus. Roughly 6 in 10 also say having widespread testing for the coronavirus in their area is essential to reestablishing public activities, along with requiring people to keep 6 feet (1.8 meters) apart in most places and to wear face masks when they're near others outside their homes.

Nearly as telling as the public's appetite for rigorous precaution: Close to half say it is essential that a vaccine be available before public life resumes. A third say that's important but not essential.


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The latest AP-NORC survey was conducted over this past weekend, before Monday's news of positive results in a clinical trial of a potential vaccine. It found that a solid majority of about 6 in 10 Americans are in favor of requiring people to stay in their homes except for essential errands, with about a third of the country strongly behind that approach.

While still resolute, support for such measures to contain the coronavirus has slipped in the past month — 80% were in favor of stay-at-home orders in April. The new survey found that 69% now favor restricting gatherings to 10 people or fewer, down from 82% in April.


I thought many of those numbers were interesting.


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The University of Cambridge does not plan to hold any face-to-face lectures in the 2020-21 school year due to concerns about the coronavirus. Instead, students will attend online lectures.


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Purdue University's president said its professors will be teaching behind plexiglass, and its students will be asked to wear masks.


It will be interesting all the different routes colleges and even K-12 will take this fall for providing an education for their students.


Roll Tide Ravens
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
The ADPH hasn’t officially, specifically said this yet, but based on numbers, Alabama has added 676 new cases today. That is by far the most Alabama has added in a single day during this pandemic.

This is from the BamaTracker website, which isn’t an official state site, but provides detailed data based on ADPH numbers:

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TideWarrior
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
NC is seeing larger numbers being reported daily now but the state is attributing that to large increases in testing. So really makes you wonder how many people have actually had it for the last several months when either testing was not available on a larger scale or people were told to just stay home.


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stomp
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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The ADPH hasn’t officially, specifically said this yet, but based on numbers, Alabama has added 676 new cases today. That is by far the most Alabama has added in a single day during this pandemic.

This is from the BamaTracker website, which isn’t an official state site, but provides detailed data based on ADPH numbers:


It looks like ADPH is adding new cases to the total and then assigning them to a specific date afterward. Probably did not collect 600+ today.

Main thing is to look at the 7 day average


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FairhopeTider
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
The ER Director of Baptist South in Montgomery got tired of the fake news out there about how they are supposedly overrun and diverting patients. He posted on Facebook last night what’s actually going on.

It’s a long read but brings the truth. “The idea that we have no ICUs available is an exaggeration of the truth.”

LINK
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JustGetItRight
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
Came here to post this very thing.

I have a strong hatred for most reporters but you cannot put this on them. They reported what they were told by the mayor of Montgomery.

It will take a few more instances of this before they learn that they can’t believe anything Stephen Reed says.
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FairhopeTider
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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It will take a few more instances of this before they learn that they can’t believe anything Stephen Reed says.


It’s a great read and the doctor has an impeccable reputation in Montgomery. Its sad that the he had to resort to a Facebook post to get the truth out. It’s really clear that certain mayors see this as an opportunity to have their moment in front of the lights. They’re trying to create their own personal “Bush on 9/11” moment.
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