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Robot Santa
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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ETA: And if you have a valid medical reason for not wearing one, you're excused. That's understandable. What I don't get is the people saying "you're not going to tell me what to do!"


Yeah I don't have an issue with a person who has a valid medical issue that makes wearing a mask a problem for them. The ones who bother me are the people who are treating it like a political issue and insisting that wearing a mask to Publix is some tyrannical infringement on their personal liberty. No, no it's not. It's an extremely minor inconvenience that can, and very likely does, benefit the population as a whole. It's no different than a penny tax for public works projects. It means practically nothing to you in and of itself, but when everyone does it there are significant benefits to everyone.


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wm72
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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But to get us all back to as close to normal as possible, I think a 90% reduction with a simple inconvenience of wearing a mask in public, I can do that. I want sports, I want gatherings, etc. I think it's a small price to pay for reclaiming our society.

ETA: And if you have a valid medical reason for not wearing one, you're excused. That's understandable. What I don't get is the people saying "you're not going to tell me what to do!"



Very well said. This is exactly how I feel.

The problem is that for every person with a legitimate reason for not wearing one or people that are tying to be extremely conscious there's a bunch of idiots who are "sure as hell not wearing a mask because it makes you look like a pussy and this is an overblown hoax anyway".

And, I imagine many of those are also proving they're "not a pussy" out at crowded bars and displaying that same confrontational attitude by rudely crowding the person in line they're behind at the supermarket or gas station etc etc etc . . .


Those are the people making this such a absurdly big issue.


I personally hate wearing that mask. I can't stand it. But it still seems to be a pretty small inconvenience in the big picture.

I think of my mom who is 79 telling me about trying go to the post office or grocery store in Escambia County and turning around to drive back home because she looks through the window and sees 20 people in there and none of them wearing masks and decides to try another day.

I don't want to be the person that's causing that extra worry for the people that really are at high risk.



Roll Tide Ravens
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
We will likely see a huge jump in case numbers for Alabama today (way above any daily case number we've had so far), but there is an explanation for it from ADPH:

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Important Notice (June 28): The total daily case count for June 27 that we reported on the dashboard today, June 28, shows 105. The automatic feeds from laboratories that make up the majority of the SARS-CoV-2 lab reports received did not process. The backlog for June 27 should be fixed and reflected in the June 28 daily total on the dashboard which will occur in tomorrow's update. Therefore the June 29 update will include the lab results from June 27 and 28. This also affects the total Confirmed Cases and Total Tested numbers that appear on the dashboard today and tomorrow.


mre
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
Already reflected:

It's obvious it's a lag in reporting, but, still, this bumps the 7 day average up to 950 cases.
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
Cases, cases, cases


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mistaken4193
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
I think everyone looking at cases isn’t looking at the right thing. Percentage Positive, Hospitalizations, and Deaths should be the main numbers.

And I think the numbers are supporting an article I read about a month ago that the virus is becoming more contagious but weaker. I think the death numbers support that.


mre
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
Hospitalization is clearly the most important number other than deaths. Thankfully, the climb in the rate of hospitalizations is far flatter than the rise in cases.

I was merely responding to ADPH's comments on the number of cases, cases, cases.
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Crimsonians
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Exactly


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C W
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Good point. If it helps even a little that’s better than the alternative. I don’t usually use a mask either but had to stop in at Belk and return an item this morning and did wear a mask due to the recent spike. It’s an el cheap o I use cutting grass but maybe better than nothing
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wm72
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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I think everyone looking at cases isn’t looking at the right thing. Percentage Positive, Hospitalizations, and Deaths should be the main numbers.


Certainly hope the idea that it's becoming more contagious but less severe holds true.

That 25% positive is very high when supposedly around 5% is the number you're hoping to get.





phil4bama
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
What are y'all hearing about returning after Thanksgiving break? Quite a few schools have already announced that students won't return after Thanksgiving. The first semester will be over and school will be out until after the holidays. And for good reason; after dispersing all over the country, it might not be wise to bring everyone back together since it's almost a guarantee someone or many someones will be coming from a hot spot. It will also allow for reevaluation of the plans for spring and for any deep cleaning, etc. that might be necessary.

There's been quite a few rumors and rumblings that Bama will follow suit, but they won't come out and say it yet. I'm fortunate in that we don't have to reserve plane tickets to get anyone home but I'd still like to know for planning purposes but UA continues to drag their feet on this issue. Is anyone hearing anything solid about this?
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The Spleen
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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Certainly hope the idea that it's becoming more contagious but less severe holds true.



UAB currently has the highest number of admitted Covid patients since this started, so maybe not.

Not sure what the state numbers look like as I just got a notification on UAB from a local news outlet.


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A good friend of mine was told to go to Chatanooga because UAB was full. He passed away.


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Crimsonians
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I got a notification from a local news outlet too. Make sure you read the whole thing. Pensacola ICU beds.

No agenda there.
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JustGetItRight
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UAB currently has the highest number of admitted Covid patients since this started, so maybe not.

Not sure what the state numbers look like as I just got a notification on UAB from a local news outlet.


Statewide is, as others have said, not rising nearly as fast as cases. It's around 700 now which is about 100 more than where it was a month ago.


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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
So it begins.

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“We’ve donated the entire supply . . . because we acknowledge and recognize the human suffering . . . and want to make sure nothing gets in the way of this getting to patients,” said O’Day. T

hough Remdesivir is not a coronavirus cure, in a study of 800 patients, the antiviral drug shortened the duration of hospital stay in users to 11 days on average, versus 15 days for COVID-19 patients who were not administered the drug.


So nice of them to be concerned.

$70 million dollars later of US funding from taxpayers.

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The maker of a drug shown to shorten recovery time for severely ill COVID-19 patients says it will charge $2,340 for a typical treatment course for people covered by government health programs in the United States and other developed countries.

Gilead Sciences announced the price Monday for remdesivir, and said the price would be $3,120 for patients with private insurance. The amount that patients pay out of pocket depends on insurance, income and other factors.


I mentioned this last month that this would happen. They donate it a lot to secure first use to help. Results got people to calm down and now it is time to profit from being first on the seen.

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“This is a high price for a drug that has not been shown to reduce mortality,” Dr. Steven Nissen of the Cleveland Clinic said in an email. “Given the serious nature of the pandemic, I would prefer that the government take over production and distribute the drug for free. It was developed using significant taxpayer funding.”

Peter Maybarduk, a lawyer at the consumer group Public Citizen, called the price “an outrage.”

“Remdesivir should be in the public domain” because the drug received at least $70 million in public funding toward its development, he said.


It would have been higher but a new cheaper alternative has hit the market and forced their price down by almost %50 of what they were wanting to charge.

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Last week, a study in the U.K. found that dexamethasone, a common steroid, increased survival in severely ill COVID-19 patients who needed help breathing.


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dexamethasone treatment led to a 35% reduction in death rate among patients on invasive mechanical ventilation and 20% for those receiving oxygen without invasive ventilation.


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The U.K. government has approved the use of dexamethasone — the first coronavirus drug that scientists says has been shown to save lives — and it costs just £5 ($6) per patient.


stomp
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
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ETA: And if you have a valid medical reason for not wearing one, you're excused. That's understandable. What I don't get is the people saying "you're not going to tell me what to do!"



Hardly any of the people claiming exemption have a legitimate medical reason. Are there some? Sure, but they're likely not out and about anyway.

John Q. Public bar hopping watering holes all Saturday night does not have a medical condition that keeps him from wearing a mask. Sorry, not buying it.
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1BamaRTR
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re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread - It's All Political Edition, Say Whatever You Want
Mobile looking at imposing a mask requirement

$50 fine for first offense and $100 for second

Most people here aren’t wearing masks so enforcing this would probably be an issue. There are some doctors and nurses among that group I’ve seen not wearing. When they’re not seeing patients of course.


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Robot Santa
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I mentioned this last month that this would happen. They donate it a lot to secure first use to help. Results got people to calm down and now it is time to profit from being first on the seen.


I could say a lot of words about the legal side of medical IP. None of them would be good. It is a realm full of some of the worst the legal community has to offer. Patent trolls and engineers with law degrees as far as the eye can see. If anyone can come up with a hundred dollar solution to a three dollar problem it's a fricking engineer with a law degree.


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