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Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:07 am to
Posted by Brodeur
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:07 am to
Keon Ambrose-Hylton is either bigger than 6-8, or James Rojas is shorter than 6-8
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:09 am to
Whose 10,30, and 34? And which one is getting the boot for Koolaid?


Nvm, answer is in OP
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 8:10 am
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:30 am to
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Keon Ambrose-Hylton is either bigger than 6-8, or James Rojas is shorter than 6-8


I think it's both. Rojas looks to be about the same height as Miles and a little taller than Ellis, so probably 6'7"ish.

KAH looks like he's only an inch or so shorter than Tchikou, so he might actually be closer to 6'9"-6'10". He very well could have had a late growth spurt. It has been known to occur. I think Anthony Davis was only like 6'1" when he was 16.
Posted by Bryant91092
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:37 am to
If anyone has ESPN+ and wants to bring over info, they have an article regarding the SEC overview as well as an article with discussion on 2nd year coaches.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:51 am to
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If anyone has ESPN+ and wants to bring over info, they have an article regarding the SEC overview as well as an article with discussion on 2nd year coaches.


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SEC 2020-21 superlatives
Player of the Year

Medcalf: Keyontae Johnson, Florida
Borzello: Trendon Watford, LSU
Gasaway: Keyontae Johnson, Florida
Lunardi: Keyontae Johnson, Florida

Newcomer of the Year

Medcalf: B.J. Boston, Kentucky
Borzello: B.J. Boston, Kentucky
Gasaway: B.J. Boston, Kentucky
Lunardi: B.J. Boston, Kentucky


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There were four first-year coaches in the league last season -- Nate Oats (Alabama), Eric Musselman (Arkansas), Buzz Williams (Texas A&M) and Jerry Stackhouse (Vanderbilt). Whose program do you see taking the most meaningful leap this season, and why?

Lunardi: I am most bullish on Alabama. What kind of odds could we get on the Crimson Tide making the Final Four in both football and basketball? Throw Ohio State into that parlay and I'm taking the bet. This is a season in which a "down ballot" power conference team (or two...) figures to play in April. When asked to predict the unpredictable, Alabama is as good a long shot as any.

Gasaway: Buy that Alabama stock now. And by that I actually mean something more like, "The Crimson Tide might look about the same as last season, while many of the other teams in this question could take a step back." Oats will have to replace Kira Lewis, but the coach does have Jaden Shackelford, John Petty Jr., Alex Reese and Herbert Jones back for another season. Who knows, Villanova transfer Jahvon Quinerly might add a lift as well. In fact, Quinerly might feel as if he never left Philadelphia: Alabama shot more 3s than 2s in SEC play last season. If nothing else, the Tide's perimeter-oriented attack should be entertaining.

Medcalf: I think Williams and Stackhouse will need more time to make any leap. And Musselman just lost Mason Jones (22.0 PPG) who willed the Razorbacks to multiple wins last season. That's why I like Alabama and Oats here.

First, John Petty is back for his ninth season -- honestly, it feels as if he has been in Tuscaloosa forever. The Crimson Tide lost two SEC games in overtime last season, and another by a point against Tennessee. They were right there in multiple conference matchups. One player won't replace Kira Lewis, but Oats has a cast of talent that could make up for what was lost. I also think Quinerly gets a fresh start after going from top recruit to struggling at Villanova. That will help too.

Borzello: It's a close call between Oats and Musselman. Both teams fell short of the NCAA tournament last season and both teams should be borderline top-25 teams entering this season. But since Arkansas finished a game below Alabama last season, and I have the Razorbacks one spot ahead of the Crimson Tide in my projected finish, I'll have to go with Musselman and Arkansas.

It might be strange to say Arkansas is going to be better than last season after losing its two best players, Mason Jones and Isaiah Joe, early to the NBA and two other players who started at least 30 games. But this is Musselman's type of team. He rebuilt his rosters every season at Nevada, and it worked just fine. Ten newcomers are expected to get major time, with a top-10 recruiting class joining six eligible transfers. I do think both teams are poised for a big jump, but Arkansas edges it for me.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:52 am to
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Anonymous coaches size up the SEC

Jeff Borzello spoke to SEC coaches about their expectations for the conference in 2020-21.

"The transfer from Wake Forest, [Olivier] Sarr, being eligible is going to be a huge addition to Kentucky. Cal has done it with freshmen and has shown he can get guys to play at a high level. He gets those guys to play unselfish, but to have a big kid like that, replacing Nick Richards, who was probably the most valuable player, giving them a presence down low for those guys.... He was a big difference for their team. Sarr will help stabilize their frontline. They lost [Nate] Sestina, [Nick] Richards and [EJ] Montgomery. That was a big question mark in their offseason."

"I think LSU might be the best team in our league this year. They bring back so many pieces from last year's team. [Trendon] Watford is my preseason player of the year. Javonte Smart is back, Darius Days, who can stretch the floor. Their freshman class is really, really good. Cam Thomas is going to be awesome. When he wants to take over a game, as you know, he has the capability of doing it. I think they're the sleeper to win this thing."

"For Tennessee, it's the mixture of returning guys with [John] Fulkerson and [Yves] Pons and [Santiago] Vescovi, those three guys returning played a ton of minutes. Fulkerson and Pons have been part of a couple really good teams. They learned the winning culture from Grant Williams and Admiral Schofield and those guys. The biggest question mark would be the point guard position. Vescovi is a really talented guard, but it was difficult for him to run the point. Now he's got a year of experience under his belt. Is Jaden Springer gonna play point guard? I think Keon Johnson is gonna be a really good player. But they're both young guards, it will take some time for them to get acclimated."

"The point guard [Kentucky] got, [Devin] Askew, he's really, really good. I've seen him in person one or two times. He's got a sense of physicality and maturity level that's needed in this league. They may struggle a little early, but by the time conference play kicks in, they'll be right there in the thick of things. I don't think they'll be as good as the 2019 team with Tyler Herro and Keldon Johnson and those guys, but they've got a good combination."

"Alabama has a ton of returning guys. They've had a lot of talent over the last couple of years. It hasn't produced what it should have. It's all going to hinge on [Jahvon] Quinerly this year. How his progression has been. I don't think people understand how important Kira Lewis was to their basketball team. We spent hours talking about how to stop Kira and we still couldn't do it. If Quinerly had a great offseason, they have the talent around him to be really, really good. Their biggest thing will be what strides have they made on the defensive end. They obviously could put up a ton of points, but they couldn't stop anyone."

"We know how good [Kentucky's] B.J. [Boston] is gonna be. Out of all the guys I've watched, he's definitely the most ready to contribute. His game will really translate to the SEC. When he plays with a high energy level, he's really, really good. He can impact the game in a lot of different ways. When he's making shots, he's a really, really effective player."

"I think Florida will be better. One of the things [Andrew] Nembhard and [Kerry] Blackshear kept them from doing was playing at a pace that fits them. They'll play faster. They'll be a more up-tempo team. That pace fits their team. Nembhard being a bigger point guard, Blackshear being a bigger, slower big man slowed them down. It made them a half-court team, and that didn't fit the majority of the guys they had on the floor. One thing you do have to say, coach [Mike] White's teams get better throughout the year. They should be better than they were last season."

"South Carolina and Missouri are a lot better than people give them credit for. I wouldn't be surprised if they finished ahead of Alabama or Arkansas."

"I would go with [LSU's] Trendon Watford over [Florida's] Keyontae Johnson just because I think he's the most talented guy in the league. He's just a tough matchup. I like Keyontae a lot. He's productive, he plays well with other good players. He's a perfect fit and I think he'll have a big year for sure. But Trendon Watford, the way he rebounds it, he's so big, so athletic, he's just a hard matchup. When we do scouting reports, we fear him the most. If he's improved his shooting, he becomes that much harder to guard. I think [LSU's Yves] Pons has to be in that discussion. He's probably the best defender in the league. He's so athletic, plays so hard. And I think they'll have a chance to win the league."

"Arkansas will be deeper. The freshman class they have coming in, it was perfect timing with the talent in that state, they did a good job of keeping those guys home. [Moses] Moody may have the best shot of those guys of playing early among the freshman group. Then there's the grad transfers, which Musselman has been known to [attract] since Nevada. They'll have more depth, which was part of the reason they faltered down the stretch. They had to play Isaiah Joe and Mason Jones 30-something minutes and they had to take a lot of shots. And then Joe got hurt.

"Bruce Pearl does a good job. He's a master of motivation, so I'm sure he's using [where Auburn is picked] to fuel those guys. If they're picked to finish in the bottom half or whatever, I'm not sure they will."

"South Carolina has a chance to be really good. They always play hard. They defend. They have three guys as good as any three in the league in [Jermaine] Couisnard, [AJ] Lawson and the kid from Florida [Keyshawn Bryant]."

"[Auburn's] Sharife Cooper will be given the ball and have a lot of responsibility, a lot of freedom to play. I would imagine he'll be the Freshman of the Year just given the role he'll have. [Jaylin] Williams and [Devan] Cambridge improved as the year went on, Jamal Johnson will step up. They've got enough guys that didn't play a lot, but were part of a team last year that was really good. And Bruce has proven himself as one of the best coaches in the league."

"Ole Miss should be more physical, deeper. They brought in Romello White and Dimencio Vaughn, two guys that are experienced, proven commodities. They've shown they can play. The guys that are back, are a year older. KJ Buffen could make a jump. Devontae Shuler is a senior. And they have Luis Rodriguez back, who got hurt after four games. They have more guys who can make plays off the dribble and more size and depth up front."
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:54 am to
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Consensus SEC 2020-21 predicted order of finish


Kentucky
Tennessee
Florida
LSU
Alabama
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Auburn
Missouri
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Mississippi State
Georgia
Vanderbilt
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:58 am to
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[Alabama] obviously could put up a ton of points, but they couldn't stop anyone

Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 11:14 am to
Ranked #25 in the coaches poll LINK /
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 11:21 am to
This just means we are cursed to lose our first game on a buzzer beater.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:16 pm to
its a true statement. Unless the defense improves, we are going no where. Other than Petty and Jones, everyone else was a liability on defense.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25441 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 12:30 pm to
Petty and Herb can play defense...we know that.

Keon Ellis was an Elite Juco defender...Hopefully he can be here too.

But the Key is Jordan Bruner, who was Elite in the Ivy League. If he can be that good here we will be very good on defense.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25441 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 2:07 pm to
It’s gonna be weird watching Petty this year without his big hairstyle. I’ve become strangely attached to it.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 3:03 pm to
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Unless the defense improves, we are going no where.


I don't disagree with this at all, but Oats has said numerous times that the defense last year wasn't what it needed to be. I've got full faith that it will be better this year.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 5:25 pm to
With the style we play, I don’t believe that it will ever be like a Grant defense, but I have all the faith in the world that the coaching staff will improve our defense this season.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25441 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 5:29 pm to
Ivy League cancels their season.....LOL.


One less Auto Bid for NCAAt means an extra spot for a Bubble team
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 5:47 pm
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 6:53 pm to
I have tickets and wouldn't be upset if I got a call saying 'no fans. We want to get the season played.'

Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 11/13/20 at 12:32 pm to
Jon Rothstein reported that they’re allowing no more than 1K fans for the UK-GT Holiday Hoopsgiving game on Dec. 6th. But then 6 days later, they’re not allowing ANY fans for those games including Bama-Clemson smh
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40750 posts
Posted on 11/13/20 at 2:34 pm to
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The Alabama men’s basketball team has nine players that will play in their first games for the Crimson Tide this season. But a few of them have college experience already under their belts, including guard Keon Ellis, who transferred to UA from Florida Southwestern State.

Ellis was the nation’s top junior college combo guard and No. 3 overall JUCO prospect during the 2020 recruiting cycle, according to 247Sports. Assistant coach Bryan Hodgson has plenty of experience recruiting the junior college ranks and helped sign a player from Ellis’ former school when he and Nate Oats were at Buffalo. It’s easy to see why Alabama was interested.

“We think his length, athleticism and effort on the defensive end, that was as big of a selling point to us as his offensive game. And his offensive game’s great,” Oats said. “I mean, he was the leading scorer on the No. 1 JUCO team in the country. He makes threes at a high clip. He can drive the ball. He can finish. He’s skilled.

“Him and (John) Petty are a similar size, 6-5 and long -- and Petty’s been playing unbelievable defense here. We’ve tried to sell the two of those guys on being two of the better two-way players in the SEC, and I think they’re both capable of doing that.”

Ellis was named a second-team NJCAA All-American before coming to Tuscaloosa, Ala., after averaging 18.7 points per game for the Buccaneers and connecting on 54 percent of his shots from the field, 40 percent from beyond the arc and 81 percent from the charity stripe. His 562 points in his sophomore campaign were the most in a single season in school history.

In his first interview since joining the program, Ellis shared how he fits into Oats’ system.

“I feel like I fit better into a more run-and-gun style of offense,” Ellis said. “Watching a couple of their games last year, watching them play, I felt like I could fit in because they do get up and down on offense. I think that’s my best offense to play in, even though I feel like I can play in any style of offense. But seeing that they get up and down a lot and I can finish in transition, I can shoot the ball, be someone off the dribble, that makes it easier to play in this style of offense.”

In addition to playing fast on the offensive end of the floor, Oats’ teams are also known for their blue-collar mentality, and defensive improvement is a point of emphasis prior to the season.

At Florida Southwestern State, Ellis made his presence felt on the defensive end, averaging 2.1 steals and 1.2 blocks per game as a sophomore. He was just one of four junior college players to average 2.0 or more steals and 1.0 or more blocks per game, while the 6-foot-6, 170-pound combo guard ranks as his junior college’s all-time leader in career steals with 114.

“I think this may be the first time defense has really been, like, asked of me, to actually bring it,” Ellis said. “I could always play defense on my own, but here, you have to play defense. The blue-collar thing, I think that escalated my defensive ability even more because now, I’m thinking about getting more rebounds, getting in passing lanes, diving for loose balls, which I’m capable of and I’ve been doing a good of that in practice.”

Ellis feels like he can make an immediate impact in Tuscaloosa, and his new teammates agree.

“He’s a great shooter,” forward James Rojas said. “He can shoot. He can drive. He’s a really good defender. He’s a long wing. He can do everything out there, and we love that. We need those guards who can move and play offense and defense. So, I think he brings a lot to the table.”
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 11/13/20 at 2:36 pm to
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One less Auto Bid for NCAAt means an extra spot for a Bubble team


Doesnt mean much for a future 3-seed
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