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Posted by RollTide66
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:38 pm to
Head to Head: Alabama vs South Carolina.
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Alabama Crimson Tide on AL.com
Published on Sep 11, 2019
AL.com's Lauren Sisler and former Alabama WR Mike McCoy discuss storylines heading into Alabama's first matchup with the South Carolina Gamecocks since 2010, and give their score predictions for the Week 3, SEC-opening road trip to Williams-Brice Stadium.
Posted by RollTide66
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:09 pm to

9/11/2019 6:20:00 PM Alabama Continues Preparations for Saturday’s Meeting with South Carolina
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TUSCALOOSA, Ala. – The Alabama Crimson Tide held its second full-pad practice of the week, working for two hours at the Hank Crisp Indoor Facility on Wednesday afternoon.

Coach Saban's Press Conference: 09-11-19

The session was the Tide's third leading up to the team's 2019 Southeastern Conference opener Saturday, Sept. 14, at South Carolina. Game time is set for 2:39 p.m. CT at Williams-Brice Stadium in Columbia, S.C. The matchup will air on CBS with Brad Nessler and Gary Danielson in the booth and Jamie Erdahl working the sidelines.
Get all the latest information on the team by following @AlabamaFTBL on Twitter and Facebook and AlabamaFBL on Instagram. General athletic news can also be found at UA_Athletics on Twitter and Instagram and AlabamaAthletics on Facebook.
Posted by RollTide66
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:40 pm to
Alabama Crimson Tide Football vs. South Carolina preview with Kyle Henderson
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Published on Sep 11, 2019
Alabama Crimson Tide Football vs. South Carolina preview with Kyle Henderson
Some Player grades and stats
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:51 pm to
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Alfano digged a huge hole that he can't get out of... won't be easy but we will see.


What’s he do?
Is he in legal trouble, or potentially NCAA trouble?
Posted by mrbroker
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:51 am to
I think NS alluded to a team type issue so I doubt it is NCAA at this point
Posted by RollTide66
Atlanta
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:14 am to
mrbroker
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I think NS alluded to a team type issue so I doubt it is NCAA at this point

I believe you are most likely correct... probably more like a "quit on the team" kinda thang. "Im not starting, so I aint playing hard" much like the entitlement issues AJ alluded to when he was at Bama. 5 stars come in and expect to have it all served up to them and want to start in place of a 5 star who has been starting for a year or so.

Not saying any of this is true; but seems like a recurring issue with each class. Anoma anyone? Great potential, little experience, great expectations from both side.
Posted by RollTide66
Atlanta
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:21 am to
Alabama Football: What we learned from the NMSU game by Ronald Evans
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Before moving on to South Carolina, let’s review what we learned about the Alabama football team in its 62-10 win over New Mexico State.

It is tempting to look at the Alabama football game against New Mexico State and conclude not much can be learned in such a mismatch. But that is not accurate. Coaches and players learn from every game. For fans, the lessons might be less obvious, but we too can draw conclusions.

When Nick Saban said on Saturday he was not pleased, it was easy to see why. While his comments seemed to mostly apply to the Crimson Tide backups, we all saw weaknesses in some of the starters as well.

Thinking back to last season, Nick Saban often described Alabama football (especially the defense and special teams) as a work in progress. He could be using the phrase again this season. Last season’s ‘work in progress’ became the most explosive offense in Crimson Tide history. Along the way, fans during the 2018 season kept claiming Saban had fielded his best-ever team.

The team turned out not to be that. We are months away from knowing what this season’s team will become. But there is value in that unknown, that lack of assurance a team is destined for greatness. It makes players hungrier to prove themselves and less vulnerable to complacency.

On Saturday, as the Crimson Tide dispensed with a far inferior team, what did we learn about the 2019 Alabama Crimson Tide?

The Alabama football staff used 67 players in the game. Two other numbers stick out. Fifteen of those players are true freshmen. Six of them started the game. As we knew before and as it becomes more obvious each week, the 2019 Crimson Tide is a very young team. It will need more time than normal to mature and develop. The six true freshmen starters were Evan Neal on offense and Will Reichard at placekicker. On defense, they were D.J. Dale, Shane Lee, Christian Harris and Jordan Battle.
Eight defensive linemen played. Backing up Dale, Raekwon Davis and LaBryan Ray were Phidarian Mathis, Byron Young, Christian Barmore, Stephon Wynn and Tevita Musika. Based on two weeks of play, Mathis, Young and Barmore are where the coaches are looking for depth. Young had the most snaps Saturday in the group of backups. When healthy, Justin Eboigbe is expected to join the rotation. An early guess is the core this season will be the three starters, plus Mathis, Young, Barmore and Eboigbe.
At linebacker, the only true freshman other than the starters who saw action was outside linebacker, King Mwikuta. Terrell Lewis and Chris Allen rotated and neither played very many snaps. The backup inside linebackers, Markail Benton, Jaylen Moody and Ale Kaho did not get much action. None of the three appeared to be close to prepared if an injury happens to Lee or Harris.
The offensive line of Leatherwood, Neal, Dickerson, Womack and Wills still had some problems getting a push. A few times they got pushed back into Tua. Improvement is needed.
Sophomore punter, Skyler DeLong averaged 41 yards on his three punts.
Will Reichard was superb with kickoff and field goal duties.
Does the Tide have a running back problem? We don’t know but a guess is true freshman Keilan Robinson may be getting some more snaps.
*The participation data for this post came from rolltide.com.

Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:02 am to
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I think NS alluded to a team type issue so I doubt it is NCAA at this point

Saban hasn't gone very far into details with the media, but he indicated that Alfano has gotten himself in the doghouse, partly due to being irresponsible on the academic side -- perhaps missing classes, tutoring sessions, etc. Saban has also indicated that Alfano has "compounded his mistakes" by how he's responded to them.

Apparently he's still not always doing what he should be doing. Saban said he's suspended until he does what's been laid out for him to get himself out of the doghouse. Saban also said he's talked to the team about it -- learning from mistakes and responding appropriately.

Beyond that, I haven't seen anything indicating Alfano's situation is an NCAA or team issue.
This post was edited on 9/14/19 at 9:15 am
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:39 am to
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Two different situation.


No shite? I thought it was exactly the same situation.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:46 am to
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Not saying any of this is true; but seems like a recurring issue with each class. Anoma anyone? Great potential, little experience, great expectations from both side.


I think Anoma has a ton of mental health and other personal issues that were always going to prevent him from succeeding in a high pressure environment like at Alabama.

As a general rule though, these elite recruits spend a couple of years having everyone around them, including the coaches recruiting them, telling them their shite doesn't stink and they are God's gift to football. Then their first college spring or fall camp arrives and they find out their shite smells terrible and apparently God gave 84 other gifts to football just to one school. Some guys are able to overcome that shock and others aren't. The sensationalism of the modern day recruiting process + social media sets these guys up for failure.
Posted by RollTide66
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:57 am to
Off Topic...but didnt wish to start another thread:

Matt Lindsey, a 2013 Alabama graduate, is South Carolina's director of player personnel.
Former Alabama intern now a personnel star at South Carolina By Matt Zenitz | mzenitz@al.com
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When Alabama needed a new director of player personnel in 2018, Matt Lindsey was one of the first to receive a phone call from Nick Saban.

Just five years removed from graduating from Alabama and finishing his run as a Crimson Tide recruiting intern, Lindsey had already built a reputation as one of the nation’s top young personnel guys.

Saban was well aware, which is why Lindsey was on his short list of targets for that job once Jody Wright left for UAB.

Ultimately though, Lindsey — who was entering his second season at South Carolina after three years with the Philadelphia Eagles — didn’t want to leave South Carolina. At least not at that point.

Despite being from Tuscaloosa and having history with Alabama, Lindsey told people close to him he was enjoying the process of helping to rebuild the Gamecocks and that he would have felt bad leaving Will Muschamp after just one year on the staff.

So he passed on the potential opportunity at his alma mater and stayed at South Carolina, where he’s continued to assist Muschamp in adding talent to the roster that Saban and Alabama will face on Saturday.

“Matt’s one of the best in the country at what he does,” said Ed Marynowitz, whom Lindsey worked under both with the Tide and Eagles. “He’s had a lot of opportunities, including to be able to go back to the NFL in a variety of different roles. But I know he’s excited about where he is now and I know he loves who he’s working for. And I think they’ve done a great job there."

For Lindsey, it all started at Alabama, though his original position with the Tide didn’t have anything to do with personnel or recruiting.

He was a weight room intern under Scott Cochran, a position he landed as a freshman at Alabama in 2009.

That didn’t last long. Lindsey was so interested in scouting and player evaluation growing up that he would fake being sick at times during high school in order to stay home and watch the NFL scouting combine. After taking care of weight room responsibilities during the morning as a freshman, Lindsey would regularly make the trip to the upstairs level of the Mal Moore Athletic Building to track down Marynowitz and see if there was anything he could help with from a recruiting standpoint.

Eventually, Lindsey started working under Marynowitz full-time as part of a student intern team that also included current Georgia director of player personnel Marshall Malchow and current Tennessee director of player personnel Drew Hughes.

They picked up coffee and dry-cleaning for coaches, assisted with recruiting visits, broke down recruiting film and learned under Marynowitz, who’s considered a pioneer in the college personnel world.

It was during that time that Lindsey began to show a knack for identifying talent. Specifically, there was an unheralded Class of 2013 quarterback whose tape he loved and whom he tried multiple times — unsuccessfully — to get Alabama coaches to consider.

Baker Mayfield.

“You could just see right away that Matt was a tireless worker but also that he had a passion for football and a passion for evaluating players,” said former Tide staffer Joe Pannunzio, who worked with Lindsey at Alabama and with the Eagles. “Those kind of guys kind of come to the top right away and you could see that he was going to elevate pretty fast.”

Marynowitz was so impressed with Lindsey that he had the Eagles hire the then-21-year old as a scouting assistant in 2013. Lindsey was then promoted to college scouting coordinator one year later, the role he was in for the rest of his time in Philadelphia.

“The Baker Mayfield story, there’s a lot of examples of guys like that,” Marynowitz said. “Matt’s willing to do the work. He’s willing to research it and really go the extra mile. And when he has conviction on a player, he’s not afraid to communicate that. He’s very passionate about the players that he feels good about and he’s going to always be able to provide a lot of information and examples to prove to whoever he’s talking to that this guy can play. That’s what you’re looking for, especially with guys in that role. You want them to have strong opinions. You want guys that are willing to go against the grain. And I can’t tell you how many times he pounded the table on certain players to me. And he’s right a lot more than he’s wrong.”

At South Carolina, the now 28-year old Lindsey has helped the Gamecocks build two straight recruiting classes that have ranked among the top-20 nationally.

One of the headliners for this year’s class was the quarterback Alabama will face on Saturday, Ryan Hilinskiu , a top-65 recruit from California who probably wouldn’t be at South Carolina if it wasn’t for Lindsey.

After watching game tape from the early part of Hilinski’s junior season in 2017, Lindsey got the South Carolina staff to start recruiting him. That was back when Hilinski was still only a three-star recruit and back when his only other scholarship offers were from Boston College, Fresno State, San Jose State and Montana State.

If South Carolina hadn’t gotten in on Hilinski that early, he’d likely be playing somewhere like Southern Cal, Ohio State or for one of the other prominent programs that ended up recruiting him.

“Matt does a really good job,” Muschamp said of Lindsey, who was the 2018 Football Scoop Player Personnel Director of the Year. “He’s extremely bright. He’s a hard worker. He’s a guy that is a very good evaluator of talent. He understands the critical factors we’re looking for at each position. ... We have a very organized recruiting department as far as on-campus visits, unofficial visits and the evaluation of tape that they set up for us as coaches to make sure they’re getting the right players in front of us. And he’s done a really good job in the time he’s been here at South Carolina.”

It doesn’t go unnoticed with Saban.

And there’s still a chance Lindsey could end up back at Alabama at some point down the road.

But on Saturday, he will be watching from the South Carolina sideline as the team he’s helped construct attempts to compete with Saban and the Tide.

“I can’t say enough good things about who Matt is as a person and who he is as a worker," Marynowitz said. "And when you have a head coach that has a vision and it’s clear and he communicates it the way Will does and then you’ve got a guy like Matt — who’s as organized as he is, loyal, on the same page and he is literally elite at his job — I think that’s a combination that’s going to lead to success."
Matt Zenitz is an Alabama and Auburn reporter for the Alabama Media Group. Follow him on Twitter @mzenitz.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 11:05 am
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:52 pm to
Cole Cublic responding to a question about whats wrong with the Ala running game. He said its two things. First they dont get a lot of movement up front by the line. And, Alabama doesnt have a true down hill running back. Cole said Najee struggles with just planting your foot, squaring your pads and just powering ahead for as much as you can get. He said Brian is better at that but isnt the dynamic athlete that Alabama has had in the past. Cole said, but you dont have to be a D Henry to be a good down hill runner.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:59 pm to
I like Cubelic but I think he's wrong here. Both B Robinson and Najee are averaging significantly less YPC than they did for the 2018. Robinson's down exactly a yard (3.3 from 4.3) and Harris is down close to 2 (5.0 from 6.7). They're also both much lower than the YPC they had on limited carries (> 1 yard for Harris, >3 for Robinson) in 2017. That kind of dropoff isn't a result isn't on the back suddenly forgetting how to run.

The OLine's run blocking has simply been subpar so far. That's not to say it won't get better or that the staff is even worried about it. They've used different combinations throughout both games. I know Saban preaches respecting every opponent, but he knows full well these games are a chance to see who does what well in games and they're using that opportunity. Probably starting this weekend you're going to see the lineup stabilize and the production increase.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24717 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:07 pm to
TE blocking or lack of it has blown up a lot of plays. May be time to put an extra OL out there as a TE like we did with Brandon Greene.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:49 pm to
At some point people will have to understand and accept that the Bama RB's for 2019 are just good and not elite.
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:26 pm to
Define "greatest".

If anyone thinks any of the teams from the 60s, 70s, 80s and probably even 90s can compete with the ones todau they're crazy.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6457 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:43 pm to
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If anyone thinks any of the teams from the 60s, 70s, 80s and probably even 90s can compete with the ones todau they're crazy.


This kind of list obviously judges teams vs other teams of their own era. Where I do think it would be reasonable to draw a line is pre and post integration, because a lot of great players couldn't even attend the school of some of those "greatest" teams, let alone play for those programs, and of course, it wasn't just in the South. Look at photos of Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, and any other team back in the day. Pretty much lily white.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 7:52 pm
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:45 pm to
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At some point people will have to understand and accept that the Bama RB's for 2019 are just good and not elite.


I can't see how a person can say this definitively. The RBs have not been put in position to succeed. If people are regularly unblocked, there's nowhere to go. Period.

Now don't get me wrong - I believe there's plenty to improve, especially from Harris. Harris seems to me to be the one with the poorest vision at the moment. However, we currently have a new OC (whose back in CFB after being in the league for a spell) and a new Oline coach, as well as replacing several starters along the Oline. These coaches are not allowed to bring in their system - they are required to come in and learn, coach, and implement Bama's system - which takes some time. This is not a recipe for immediate success - it's likely going to take some time to jell and find the right recipe for success.

But let me give an example of how the RBs are not set up for success. Cole Cubelic recently stated that Bama RBs are not getting their shoulders square and running downhill. Fair enough, but I challenge anyone here to show me the formations and play calls by Sark where these players are in position to do that.

We've almost exclusively run out of Shotgun, where the ball must travel through the air before being caught by the QB and then handed off. The RB literally must hesitate multiple beats and doesn't take the ball with any head of steam. Frequently, the handoff takes place with the runners body turned facing the sidelines, whereupon he must turn his body 90 degrees to get going downhill.

Add to that the fact that the Oline hasn't exactly been clicking and opening up holes where they should be, and so I ask you all - what do you expect? Do you think "elite" RBs would be regularly making something out of nothing? Do you think elite RBs would be telling Sark to keep Tua under center and run our offense from 2012? False. None of these things would happen.

The simple fact is that while Bama is the most talented team in the country, we have a metric frick-ton of turnover each year because of the NFL, and sometimes it takes a bit of time to get everyone executing in unison to the top of their ability.

FYI, there's a reason for the expression "mid-season form", and many here need to remember that. Bama's run game is a work in progress, and that's fine. Being awesome in September doesn't interest me. Being awesome in November and beyond does.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:52 pm to
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Define "greatest".


Teams who created the biggest separation between them at #1 and the rest of college football at that time - in the area of overall dominance, as defined by eye test, game results, and stats.
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