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Posted on 8/12/19 at 1:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 8/12/19 at 1:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Good read: Stalwart LB Anfernee Jennings looks to make final season count (BamaOnLine)
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Terrell Lewis on Anfernee Jennings: “Man, he’s a dog. He’s kind of proven himself around here. Anfernee, a lot of times even when I was younger, I would look at him as one of those physical guys, just like I would look at Ryan Anderson. And look at him and try to learn from his game and put it into mine as far as like setting the edge, being physical and just having that dog mentality.”
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:06 pm to TidalSurge1
I saw it, and I also didn't understand what your point was. McMillon can get a Medical Redshirt. If he does and continues to play, he will become what is called a 6th year Senior. Of course, a committee must approve of it, but surely you didn't go to the all that trouble just to point out that a committee decision was involved. Surely...
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:09 pm to prevatt33
I am hopeful that with those newcomers and younger LB's that one or more of them will become the man this season. If that is the case Josh might not be able to take his spot as a starter in 2020. Best of luck to him regardless to which way this things falls.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:14 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Encouraging notes Boz. Seems we have a more complete team position wise compared to last year.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:20 pm to Canyon16
Would be very happy to see Ben Davis go the Jerrell Harris route and give us some solid all around minutes his last year.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:25 pm to prevatt33
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I saw it, and I also didn't understand what your point was. McMillon can get a Medical Redshirt. If he does and continues to play, he will become what is called a 6th year Senior. Of course, a committee must approve of it, but surely you didn't go to the all that trouble just to point out that a committee decision was involved. Surely...
The point is the NCAA Bylaws clearly state that a waiver for a 6th year is only granted due to injury if the player is unable to play for two seasons due to injury(ies) and/or other causes beyond his or the institution's control (e.g., serious illness) within his five year clock. McMillon is only unable to play for one season due to injury. So, it's pretty doubtful he'll get a waiver for a 6th year in his situation. It's far from the "slamdunk" you so adamantly claimed it is. You're an intelligent guy, so I'm a bit surprised you didn't understand that. And surely you don't really think it was much trouble to find the information I posted. Surely...
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:42 pm to TidalSurge1
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And surely you don't really think it was much trouble to find the information I posted. Surely...
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:07 pm to TidalSurge1
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They point is the NCAA Bylaws clearly state that a waiver for a 6th year is only granted due to injury(ies) if the player is unable to play for two seasons due to injury(ies) within his five year clock. McMillon is only unable to play for one season due to injury. It's pretty doubtful that he'll be granted a waiver for a 6th year in his situation. It's far from the "slamdunk" you so adamantly claimed it is. You're an intelligent guy, so I'm surprised you found that hard to understand. And surely you don't really think it was much trouble to find the information I posted. Surely..
Anyway, I hope you're not trying to start drama where there is none. If so, just tell me and I will not engage with you further.
Quoting your source:
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A waiver of the five-year period of eligibility is designed to provide a student-athlete with the opportunity to participate in four seasons of intercollegiate competition
McMillon by season:
2015 - redshirt (did not participate)
2016 - participated
2017 - participated
2018 - participated
2019 - Will not participate
And so, if McMillon is medically undable to participate, then he will not have been afforded the opportunity to "participate in 4 seasons of intercollegiate competition." Receiving a medical redshirt would give him that opportunity, and it does look like a slamdunk to me.
Quoting your source again:
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This waiver may be granted, based upon objective evidence, for reasons that are beyond the control of the student-athlete or the institution, which deprive the student-athlete of the opportunity to participate for more than one season in his or her sport within the five-year period.
The reason that it says "more than one season" is because the first season is taken care of by regular redshirt. Since McMillon already redshirted, this injury will take away season number 2.
If McMillon was a regular Senior who had not already redshirted, he would not be eligible for nor need a medical redshirt, as he would take his redshirt year in 2019 and be eligible again in 2020.
And so again, if you want to start drama, just indicate it and I will move along. However, based on the evidence, McMillon's injury is a clear slamdunk case for a medical redshirt since a medical issue is taking away a second season of participation, not his first.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:20 pm to prevatt33
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The reason that it says "more than one season" is because the first season is taken care of by regular redshirt. Since McMillon already redshirted, this injury will take away season number 2.
Nope. The decision for him to redshirt his freshman year was not caused by anything beyond his or the institution's control. That's a risk of redshirting. If you redshirt and then later miss out on playing a season due to injury you only get to play three seasons instead of four. That situation happens a lot and those players do not get waivers for a 6th year to be added to their eligbility clock.
I'm not trying to start drama. I politely and light-heartedly, via a Lee Corso meme, alerted you to something you were apparently misinformed about. You responded with veiled snide remarks. So I responded in kind as you like to excuse yourself for doing.
As we both know, I came down on you pretty hard not long ago and then quickly told you I think you're an intelligent guy who could be one the best posters on the board, if you'd just stop provoking other posters into arguments and trading insults.
I should've already said so, but believe me, I have certainly noticed and very much appreciate your significant inprovement in that regard. So, why would I try to initiate drama with you? I wouldn't and I didn't. You assumed that was my intent. It was not.
This post was edited on 8/13/19 at 9:38 am
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:26 pm to TidalSurge1
And for the record Surge, you giving me guff about the word "surely" and tossing out veiled insults is bullshite:
Since we had some words last week, I agreed to be civil and have done exactly that. This issue comes up and we speak about it in a civil way, and then you go and make the "in case you missed it" post with the hyperlink to another post. That is a bullshite move. I saw it the first time. I reacted to this bullshite move by giving you a couple of "surely"s, which you throw back in my face along with veiled insults about intelligence and understanding.
My point is that at your request, I have been a very civil poster and not started anything, and then you, out of your own different interpretation of NCAA bylaws, engaged in some mild drama starting and aimed it at me.
And so, if you want me to be an a-hole, I'm happy to do it. However, if you want me to be a civil poster, don't go around unnecessarily provoking people that you've asked to be civil.
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You're an intelligent guy, so I'm a bit surprised you didn't understand that. And surely you don't really think it was much trouble to find the information I posted. Surely...
Since we had some words last week, I agreed to be civil and have done exactly that. This issue comes up and we speak about it in a civil way, and then you go and make the "in case you missed it" post with the hyperlink to another post. That is a bullshite move. I saw it the first time. I reacted to this bullshite move by giving you a couple of "surely"s, which you throw back in my face along with veiled insults about intelligence and understanding.
My point is that at your request, I have been a very civil poster and not started anything, and then you, out of your own different interpretation of NCAA bylaws, engaged in some mild drama starting and aimed it at me.
And so, if you want me to be an a-hole, I'm happy to do it. However, if you want me to be a civil poster, don't go around unnecessarily provoking people that you've asked to be civil.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:27 pm to TidalSurge1
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Nope. The decision for him to redshirt his freshman year was not caused by anything beyond his or the institution's control. That's a risk of redshirting. If you redshirt and then later miss out on playing a season due to injury you only get to play three seasons instead of four. That situation happens a lot and those players do not get waivers for a 6th year to be added to their eligbility clock.
Fair enough, you have your anecdotal evidence and we can agree to disagree.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:35 pm to prevatt33
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Fair enough, you have your anecdotal evidence and we can agree to disagree.
My evidence is not anecdotal. I wholeheartedly agree to civilly disagree and let it go at that.
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This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 8/12/19 at 4:27 pm to TidalSurge1
I looked up some more stuff, and you are correct:
It seems that McMillon will have to apply for and get a waiver. However, I think he has a shot, given the nature of his participation at Alabama - sat until his final year to start, was set to start, and then suffered season ending injury. I have seen cases like his get that 6th year if the player never really started and looks to have that opportunity. I also have no idea as to what happened in his redshirt season. He may be able to show a good reason out of his control for that 2015 season. He also could be done.
I'm saying this to be civil and talk football. If in the future, you have an agenda with me other than talking football, please stop and find another person to engage. Regarding you posting a thing and it not getting replied to, there's no need to make another post and call attention to it again. If I had wanted to reply the first time, I would have.
I understand now why most folks lurk. They're the smart ones.
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This is problematic for athletes took a normal redshirt season or sat out due to a transfer. An athlete can generally not use a medical redshirt in those cases unless they get a clock extension or sixth year waiver. To do that the athlete show they lost two seasons outside of his or her control. The medical redshirt would be one, but the athlete would still need to show another.
It seems that McMillon will have to apply for and get a waiver. However, I think he has a shot, given the nature of his participation at Alabama - sat until his final year to start, was set to start, and then suffered season ending injury. I have seen cases like his get that 6th year if the player never really started and looks to have that opportunity. I also have no idea as to what happened in his redshirt season. He may be able to show a good reason out of his control for that 2015 season. He also could be done.
I'm saying this to be civil and talk football. If in the future, you have an agenda with me other than talking football, please stop and find another person to engage. Regarding you posting a thing and it not getting replied to, there's no need to make another post and call attention to it again. If I had wanted to reply the first time, I would have.
I understand now why most folks lurk. They're the smart ones.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 4:46 pm to prevatt33
I have no desire to get into debates (especially heated ones) or make anyone look bad. That's not how I roll. I have no agenda with you. I told you before, I don't consider you or anyone on this board an adversary. And I'm very sincere about all of that.
There was discussion on BOL about McMillon's situation. I actually posted there that I thought he'd easily get a waiver for a 6th year, in part because you had convinced me. I then got a quick education that actually jogged my old brain's poor memory (too many concussions) regarding how prior normal redshirts don't count in the two missed seasons needed to get a 6th year waiver.
So, I merely wanted to pass along to you what I learned including clear evidence (NCAA Bylaws) and I wanted to be sure you saw it. I assumed you might not have paged-back and seen my post since you hadn't replied to it. So I alerted you to it. If this board had direct messaging, I would've DM'd you instead of posting.
ETA: Sorry for responding in kind to your mildly snide remarks. At that time it didn't hit me that you thought I was trying to make you look bad.
There was discussion on BOL about McMillon's situation. I actually posted there that I thought he'd easily get a waiver for a 6th year, in part because you had convinced me. I then got a quick education that actually jogged my old brain's poor memory (too many concussions) regarding how prior normal redshirts don't count in the two missed seasons needed to get a 6th year waiver.
So, I merely wanted to pass along to you what I learned including clear evidence (NCAA Bylaws) and I wanted to be sure you saw it. I assumed you might not have paged-back and seen my post since you hadn't replied to it. So I alerted you to it. If this board had direct messaging, I would've DM'd you instead of posting.
ETA: Sorry for responding in kind to your mildly snide remarks. At that time it didn't hit me that you thought I was trying to make you look bad.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 8/12/19 at 5:13 pm to TidalSurge1
Posted on 8/12/19 at 5:15 pm to prevatt33
Roll Tide, bro!Posted on 8/12/19 at 5:28 pm to TidalSurge1
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Sorry for responding in kind to your mildly snide remarks. At the time I didn't hit me that you thought I was trying to make you look bad.
I appreciate you saying that. Roll Tide.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 5:49 pm to prevatt33
We all just need the season to get here. Been a long time since that arse kicking we received
Posted on 8/12/19 at 5:56 pm to Cobrasize
Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Random, but very important post. Swamp arse is real!!
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