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phil4bama
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re: 2019-20 Alabama Basketball Off-season and Recruiting Thread
Gene, my comments about the Auburn approach was more directly tied to the Cam Newton saga. Everybody damn well knows he was bought with money to daddy's church but Auburn told the NCAA "prove it!" and lawyered up. They backed away real fast.

Bruce is most certainly cheating, as was Avery, as is Will Wade and as is Penny. They all know the ins and outs of the AAU circuit and how things get done. Bruce apparently has that part down pat, he just needs to work on his BBQ skills. Avery almost screwed the pooch with Sexton but got away with a slap on the wrist. Wade just got arrogant and careless. Penny just hasn't got caught yet. I hope I'm wrong and all college athletics haven't become a cesspool of human trafficking but basketball certainly appears to be that way. Wouldn't surprise me if our new assistant that looks like Russian mafia is in fact, Russian mafia and is bankrolling rosters for a little payback when they make the league.


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Cobrasize
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Jayden Stone twitter class of 2020
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As I end my junior season at Sacred Heart what a year it has been. ???? I’m humbled to announce I’ll be making the transition to Kansas,attending Sunrise Christian academy for my senior season. Appreciate all that Alabama has done for my family and myself.

Image: https://foolishwatcher.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/archie-bunker-exasperated-head-in-hands-ugh.gif


Tide or Die87
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re: 2019-20 Alabama Basketball Off-season and Recruiting Thread
Smh asked about him the other day. Finally thought we would get a good white guard lol.
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Cobrasize
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Finally thought we would get a good white guard lol.

I don't think this is possible.


Canyon16
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Its been over 30 years since we had 1 of those. He was our former coach. Lol


Cobrasize
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I brought up Cousins earlier today. He just went down with a strange hip/thigh injury. He wasn't touched. I hope it isn't serious


Canyon16
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Warriors so loaded would win another without him.
Hope that big punk is okay.


RollTide4Ever
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Stone is originally from Australia.


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GenesChin
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my comments about the Auburn approach was more directly tied to the Cam Newton saga
but Auburn told the NCAA "prove it!" and lawyered up. They backed away real fast.

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This is objectively false. Auburn declared Newton ineligible and NCAA reinstated him because AU worked with them

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They all know the ins and outs of the AAU circuit


Auburn is an Under Armour school. There is a reason why most of our recruits have no real high major competition for their signature

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Bruce is most certainly cheating


Very real possibility, but hard to believe it is even ball park what you are referencing

Possibly but somehow AU and Under Armour have never been implicated in the FBI shoe company indictment/scandal


Of AUs starting 5, only 1 guy had P5 offers when he committed. So not like it is obvious


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he just needs to work on his BBQ skills.


Bruce got in trouble for making really, really shitty "bad guy" moves, not for paying recruits/cheating


I can't emphasize enough how Fd up Bruce Pearl was in this. A good argument that he shouldn't be coaching college kids can be made

Yet, that argument has absolutely nothing to do with paying recruits






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GenesChin
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re: 2019-20 Alabama Basketball Off-season and Recruiting Thread
I don't care if you want to talk shite about Auburn or Bruce, just get your facts straight man.

-I'm not saying Cam didn't get paid, just that AU worked with NCAA

-Im not saying Bruce isn't/hasn't dabbled in "pay to play" recruits, but he has never been implicated nor is AUs roster filled with any

-Bruce Pearl was a shitty shitty person in the BBQ scandal but it has nothing to do with paying recruits
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phil4bama
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re: 2019-20 Alabama Basketball Off-season and Recruiting Thread
Yeah, whatever Gene. You usually bring something decent to the thread but your orange and blue colors are showing right now. Don’t be so thin skinned. If you don’t think sleazy Bruce who has been a slick used car salesman everywhere he’s been isn’t still doing shady things and flying under the radar, you’re either naive, stupid, or biased and I don’t think it’s the first 2.
Everybody knows the “facts” in the $Cam case. Everybody also knows the real truth and back story too. It’s summed up neatly in that little video clip of Cam smugly grinning at the camera and infamously saying “it’s an ongoing investigation”


rcbama
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Got an aubie fking up our board with hi au bullshitee.

au has always cheated. scam newton was just another case where they lied their way out of it.


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TiderNAL
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re: 2019-20 Alabama Basketball Off-season and Recruiting Thread
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And?
Are we still pretending CBB isn't dirty as hell?
That we haven't paid a player in any sport in the last 5 years?


I've been on here since yesterday saying until I'm blue in the face that CBB is the dirtiest, sleaziest college sport there is, so I don't know what you're talking about.

I'm not here denying that Alabama has paid players in basketball, football, or any other sport for that matter. I am well aware of how the game works. I just happen to think the whole thing is gross, it's ruining the amateurism of college athletics that is the foundation of playing for pride and love for the school you attend.

I suppose what really set me off on the whole Watford deal is that all of what I just said above has irked me for a while now, and we hire a guy like Nate Oats who has said he wants kids that come to Alabama because they love the school, he expects them to have a servant mindset while there, etc. Then you throw in how Watford's recruitment seems to be turning into a shopping spree by his parents and/or runners, some folks saying "Damn, we can't even land a kid that's been a Bama fan his whole life", when the reality is he is going to the highest bidder.

If you recall, Greg Byrne got up to introduce Nate Oats as the new HC and one of the first things out of his mouth was related to the background work he did on Oats' compliance in recruiting, his attention to academics. I guess time will tell if Oats can be successful here without playing the game the rest of big time college basketball is playing in recruiting. He seemed to build a dang good program at Buffalo without playing the game. That is refreshing to me, and I am hopeful he can do it without compromising his convictions about doing things the right way.


pvilleguru
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it's ruining the amateurism of college athletics that is the foundation of playing for pride and love for the school you attend



TiderNAL
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pvilleguru


Possibly the most pretentious a-hole on this board btw.


Robot Santa
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re: 2019-20 Alabama Basketball Off-season and Recruiting Thread
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I just happen to think the whole thing is gross, it's ruining the amateurism of college athletics that is the foundation of playing for pride and love for the school you attend


There hasn't been true amateurism in college athletics for the better part of the last 40 years, so this is nothing new.
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pvilleguru
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Possibly the most pretentious a-hole on this board btw.



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pvilleguru
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re: 2019-20 Alabama Basketball Off-season and Recruiting Thread
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There hasn't been true amateurism in college athletics for the better part of the last 40 years, so this is nothing new

Yeah. The absolute last thing I give a shite about is players making money as long as the university isn't coordinating it.


Robot Santa
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Yeah. The absolute last thing I give a shite about is players making money as long as the university isn't coordinating it.


I really don't either. I would be OK with the idea of officially paying players too if not for the fact that if you pay the football team and men's basketball team the women's tennis and golf teams would file a lawsuit (successfully) under Title IX to get paid the same. It would bankrupt all but the most profitable athletics departments.

The idea that amateurism has only just recently begun to get ruined by pay for play schemes is ridiculous though. Hell, it's no secret that UGA bought Herschel Walker a car to get him to sign with them and that was 1979. Miami had a higher payroll than the Dolphins in the 80s. Barry Switzer wasn't a cartoon character. He actually existed. SMU was also in the 80s. This stuff has been going on for a while. If anything, the social media age has actually toned it down because every damn thing is recorded now.
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