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2018-2019 Alabama Athletics Results

Posted on 6/3/19 at 8:56 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 8:56 am
Not a great year, but not a terrible one either. Some of the problem spots remain (Cross Country, Soccer, Volleyball) and a few that we had hoped were about to breakthrough took big steps back (Men's and Women's Basketball). Two of our normal elite teams had very bad years for a variety of reasons (Men's and Women's Golf), while another of our elite teams returned to elite status (Softball).

I'd guess that we end up finishing somewhere between #20-25 in the Directors Cup.



- 0 National Titles
- 2 Top 5 finishes
- 5 (hopefully 6/7 with Outdoor Track) Top 10 finishes
- 9 Top 25 finishes

The thing that Byrne has to fix, and I know he's on it, is we should not have ANY sport where we are completely noncompetitive. We have too much money, too many good facilities and too many good people to let that happen. We are going to have sports where we can't break through and become elite, I get that. But we shouldn't be in the cellar in any sport outside of a bad year or the start of a rebuilding job. That's my goal for the next 5 years.
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 9:30 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 9:10 am to
Director's Cup Finishes since 2004 (including Mizzou and A&M in SEC back to 2004 for our purposes here)
2004 - #41 Overall, #10 SEC
2005 - #38 Overall, #10 SEC
2006 - #21 Overall, #5 SEC
2007 - #43 Overall, #10 SEC
2008 - #25 Overall, #8 SEC
2009 - #30 Overall, #8 SEC
2010 - #23 Overall, #6 SEC
2011 - #25 Overall, #7 SEC
2012 - #23 Overall, #6 SEC
2013 - #26 Overall, #7 SEC
2014 - #17 Overall, #5 SEC
2015 - #25 Overall, #7 SEC
2016 - #36 Overall, #10 SEC
2017 - #25 Overall, #8 SEC
2018 - #14 Overall, #4 SEC
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 9:26 am
Posted by Bamafan4evr12
Member since Jul 2014
1976 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 12:32 pm to
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2012 - #23 Overall, #6 SEC


How the frick did this happen?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 12:37 pm to
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How the frick did this happen?


Was wondering the same - I assume every sport that didnt win a title was a disaster
Posted by Bamafan4evr12
Member since Jul 2014
1976 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 12:46 pm to
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Was wondering the same - I assume every sport that didnt win a title was a disaster


Must've been

Basketball wasn't bad, we finished 3rd in the SEC

Baseball was, well it was baseball, under .500
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17872 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 1:28 pm to
Just here to prematurely claim men's swimming half bronze medal for top finishes by bama teams this year. Rooting for t&f go 6 or better though... as I'll still be happy af with 7th.
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Two of our normal elite teams had very bad years for a variety of reasons (Men's and Women's Golf), while another of our elite teams returned to elite status (Softball).

Gymnastics 11
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 1:38 pm to
Yea, unfortunately gymnastics isn't even a big fall. Just another in the slow but steady Tennessee Lady Vol-esque decline of a once elite program.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 1:42 pm to
2011 - #1 Nationally, #1 SEC
2012 - #1 Nationally, #2 SEC
2013 - #3 Nationally, #2 SEC
2014 - #4 Nationally, #1 SEC
2015 - #4 Nationally, #1 SEC
2016 - #3 Nationally, #2 SEC
2017 - #6 Nationally, #3 SEC
2018 - #8 Nationally, #2 SEC
2019 - #11 Nationally, #3 SEC


Sigh
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18302 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:38 pm to
Gotta wait for Duckworth to have that one bad year before letting her go. But who do you hire?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:40 pm to
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But who do you hire?


I know absolutely nothing about the world of gymnastics.

I do, however, fully trust Byrne to make that hire. We dump money into gym, have insane tradition and an incredible fanbase at one of the few schools where gymnastics truly "matters" to people. He will have no problem hiring almost anybody he identifies as wanting to bring in.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22083 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:42 pm to
Will the women's bball team EVER be consistently decent again?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:45 pm to
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Will the women's bball team EVER be consistently decent again?



At this point I'm really starting to have doubts.

Curry put solid teams on the floor at Purdue (great teams there) and Texas Tech (not as good, but always NIT/NCAAT level). Our hope has to be that 2019 was just a fluke of a year and they get back to the trajectory they were on, but man I don't know.

To her credit, this is clearly by far the best shape the program has been in since 2002, before Moody's last 2-3 years. That's not saying a whole lot, but it's saying something especially if we have to fire her and start fresh again.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18302 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:41 pm to
Hiring Wendell Hudson was a disgrace.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30851 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:55 am to
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2012 - #23 Overall, #6 SEC


This still amazes me that we finished that low, considering we won 4 national titles that year (Football, Gymnastics, Softball, Women's Golf). I guess our other programs were just too low...
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 8:03 pm to
Womens Outdoor T&F finishes #7

Men's Outdoor T&F finishes #10

Softball finishes #3/4


3 top 10 finished to add to the last Directors Cup results
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 8:04 pm
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6855 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 8:56 pm to
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We dump money into gym


This is a huge deal. A couple years ago LSU dumped millions into their gymnastics program. LSU Gymnastics has been an afterthought in the SEC under DD Breaux for 30 years (her last SEC title) and their investment resulted in the hiring of assistant Jay Clark and the building of a lavish, state of the art gymnastics facility, training gym, locker room, athlete lounge, etc.

Alabama Gymnastics hasn't had a major renovation since 1996. Their locker room digs are a windowless box in the bottom of the Coliseum. We began losing girls on the recruiting trail that we'd never lose to LSU, even before Patterson even left. This is a non-revenue arms race and we're losing. The biggest thing Byrne can do,outside of hiring Rhonda Faehn, is upgrade our gymnastics facilities out of the 90s.

I sincerely hope that it's part of the Coliseum upgrade, and it's one of the reason I hate that the stadium work is coming first. I'm sorry but football isn't exactly in need of dire attention the way our gymnastic and basketball programs are.



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This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 9:00 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22513 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 11:11 pm to
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I'm sorry but football isn't exactly in need of dire attention the way our gymnastic and basketball programs are.



I get your point. On the other hand, do you want football to be in need of dire attention? Because the way you keep that from happening is you keep on updating.

Especially since it's basically football that'll be paying for it.
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6855 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 11:47 pm to
Nah, I don't think Football will be in dire need of attention if a giant present to themselves is held off for one (honestly even less than that) year that it will take to bring the Coliseum into the 21st century for Coach Oats whoever is trying to bring gymnastics and W Ball up to snuff.

Hell, we'll probably be able to throw a few more football updates into the major plan by then too.



I honestly wish they would just do both, but yearly budgets and whatever.
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 11:48 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 7:42 am to
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Nah, I don't think Football will be in dire need of attention if a giant present to themselves is held off for one year
This. Nothing about phase 1 for football is a dire need. They can wait an extra year or two for it.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22513 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:55 pm to
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This. Nothing about phase 1 for football is a dire need. They can wait an extra year or two for it.



So we are now of the football philosophy that we need to wait for the state to be in dire need before we address it?

That sounds terrible to me. To stay on top you have to stay proactive and maintain the to standard. Other schools are constantly upgrading their football, it's way more competitive than other sports.

The fact of the money is, it comes from and for football, not basketball or other sports. And since football generates it, the moment it's in "dire need" will be the moment none of it has the funds.

Have you seen what A&M has planned and has been working on?

All I see are spoiled football fans who now thinks it came easy. It's funny, it's almost the same kind of complacency Saban has to deal with among players. Eh, no need to study the playbook that little extra, it's not in dire need, we'll still win that game easily.
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