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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)

Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:08 pm to
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I'd love to know what his +/- is for the season. Maybe it's not as bad as I think, but I doubt it. He has no business getting serious minutes at a high-major program. He'd be, at best, a 6th man type at most mid-majors.


The thing that infuriates me about him is that he plays with the freedom of a star. He thinks it is totally acceptable (and apparently it is) for him to take almost any open look he gets. He dribbles the air of the ball bouncing around back and forth without ever penetrating the timeline.

And, on top of that, he is a horrendous ball handler and passer. I'd MUCH rather see Ingram out there running the point than AJJ, and that's saying something.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:16 pm to
Gene I don't disagree with that last lineup at all.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44318 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:32 pm to
Ingram can at least break down a defense in the half court and find someone open in transition. He's definitely not a very good ball handler, but 2 out of 3 ain't bad. I understand that we are limited in who can send out there to run the offense, but I agree with you that it's very frustrating to watch a player who is so incredibly limited offensively play with the freedom of a soon to be lottery pick.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:42 pm to
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Gene I don't disagree with that last lineup at all.


I would hope not, it is a winning lineup

I thought for sure Avery understood what he stumbled onto last year, interior post D/rim protection + elite rebounding = college success


Hell I thought for sure after the Minnesota 5-3 game he would have realized most college teams suck at shooting outside the paint

Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:47 pm to
To be fair he's gone bigger the last 2 games
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:13 pm to
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#2 - Good at home, bad on the road, loss to OU
WINS - vs Auburn, vs MSU, vs Missouri, vs Tennessee, vs LSU, vs Arkansas, vs Florida
LOSSES - @ Ole Miss, vs Oklahoma, @ MSU, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M

18-13 (10-8)
#39 RPI
#3 SOS



Does this get us in the tournament?




No way with option 3, not sure we can pull option 1.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12614 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:16 pm to
Teamrankings says we have a 45.8% chance of getting in with 18 wins. Add a win in the SEC tournament to make it 19, and we supposedly have an 80.5% chance.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:37 pm to
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Does this get us in the tournament?


We'd probably be in the Last 4 in group going into tournament play in that scenario. Then it would all depend on how the Mid-Majors turned out and what kind of 1st round game we had in the SECT. Would probably have to win that.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:54 pm to
Our OOC schedule has really taken a swift kick in the balls the last month or so.

Since December 1

Lipscomb :
6-4 with losses to Tennessee Tech (10-7), North Florida (5-12), Jacksonville (5-11).

UTA:
6-6 with losses to Northern Iowa (7-9), FGCU (9-8), Coastal Carolina (4-12), Appalachian State (6-11) and Little Rock (4-13).

Minnesota:
6-5 with losses to Nebraska (12-7), Indiana (11-7) and Northwestern (10-8). The last 2 games they've lost by a combined 57 points to Northwestern and Nebraska. Their RPI is now 84.

Louisiana Tech:
3-8 with no terrible losses. They started CUSA play 1-5.

Mercer:
3-6 with losses to LaSalle (7-11) and Western Carolina (6-10). They have started 1-3 in the SoCon and now have a RPI of 220.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:16 pm to
That's horrible
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:57 pm to
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Our OOC schedule has really taken a swift kick in the balls the last month or so.


While I see your point, I wouldn't worry too much re RPI other than Minnesota tanking (along w/ Big12)

RPI is 50% weighted on opponent adjusted win%, where the adjustment discounts road losses significantly (Counts only as 0.6L) while punishing home losses (counts as 1.4L) While some of Bama's OOC opponents have been bending over for opponents, they've been gracious enough to do it on the road. Of the OOC opponents' 82 Losses, only 17 losses have been at home.


The real problem Bama will be facing is road wins. The committee has shown a trend of loving teams that can win on the road. While the LSU win was nice, it's a coinflip if it will be a good road win or enough to overlook a bad road record. Bama is in a tough place with very limited quality road win opportunities left

Should be quality road Ws: @UK , @UF
May end up quality road Ws: @AU, @TAMU, @LSU


If Bama ends up with a 3-7 road record with an overall 6-9 record outside of Coleman, that is going to be hard to overcome with only 18W
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:02 pm to
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LOSSES - @ Ole Miss, vs Oklahoma, @ MSU, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M




Stay the course at home and somehow pull a win out of our asses in just ONE of these games

and we're in baby.

I'd stake my hopes on one of the Mississippi's but god I would love to knock off Aubie on the road. UK? Avery gets an immediate extension.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 5:05 pm
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12614 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:14 pm to
I'm real disappointed in UT-A. They seemed like a legit team. I have to think not getting in despite a great record last year is playing into their motivation. I wouldn't be surprised if they turn it on in the Sun Belt tournament.

The others aren't that surprising. Minnesota lost Lynch right?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:40 pm to
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The others aren't that surprising. Minnesota lost Lynch right?


Ya, which was a huge loss for them. Their replacements at C aren't near the player that Lynch was. Their 2FG% has taken a complete nose dive since he was ruled out


Bama has gotten shafted a bit in both Texas losing Jones + Minn losing Lynch. Both of those teams would have been expected to finish a lot better than their current pace w/ those players
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 6:13 pm to
I think Minnesota was already struggling tho before they lost Lynch. I remember hearing they were being booed on their own court one game this year
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 6:14 pm
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5877 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:40 pm to
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Teamrankings says we have a 45.8% chance of getting in with 18 wins. Add a win in the SEC tournament to make it 19, and we supposedly have an 80.5% chance.




Depends on how our SOS ends up. If it's top 10 like it's expected to be we should be in with 19 wins. At 18, we'd be a last 4 in kind of team.
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:31 pm to
With horrible weather predicted for Alabama tomorrow,will we even have a game?
Attendance for sure is going to be Impacted.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:56 pm to
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With horrible weather predicted for Alabama tomorrow,will we even have a game?


Probably won't have a game tomorrow.......


I imagine that has more to do with the game being scheduled for Wednesday though
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:09 am to
Some of us tried to say those OOC nail biters weren’t the RPI boosters they were sold to us as. Now the truth is out. They were wins, but not really the caliber of win we were hoping for when scheduled.
Posted by SimstoCoop
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Oct 2016
19 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 3:55 am to
Hey guys, haven't posted in a while but I have been checking the board religiously. This is a must win tonight in my opinion. If the team can pull this off we will get a lot more eyes back on the program.
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