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Posted on 4/16/24 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 2:48 pm to
All that aside, all Politian's are bought and paid for by someone or some ideology. This election, like it or not is between Trump and Biden. Both have a record in office. There is no question which would be better for us in getting a second term. Trump is the only hope we have of showing the destruction of this country for the next 4 years. But if you enjoy paying out the arse for gas and groceries, seeing the border overrun by illegals, men playing in women's sports, the weaponization of the courts and law enforcement, higher taxes and government intrusion in your life, the murder of babies up to the time of birth and after, I guess you should vote for Biden, not vote or protest vote. All three are the same. God help us that the most corrupt President in US history Joe Biden still has 38% support,,but he has made a lot of slaves to the government thru his handouts. Most would call that buying votes.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 3:50 pm to
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All that aside, all Politian's are bought and paid for by someone or some ideology.


I would argue you are correct on ideology pre Ronnie and "bought and paid for" since.

If it makes it easier to view it as I do ...

Biden = Delaware (corporate and Fortune 500 type crooks)

Trump = East Coast (mob and Red Commie type crooks)


It is sort of "pick your poison" which is why I will protest vote.


I could not give a crap about the "shiny clickbait"
Abortion
Guns
Border

I give a crap that starting with Ronnie EVERY single POTUS has increased the debt and passed it forward to the next POTUS. The problem is a linear (1 rise for 1 run) would be acceptable and manageable but EVERY single POTUS since Carter has gone more EXPONENTIAL.

You are free to discuss this point and argue Sleepy Joe or Trumpty Dumpty is the better choice, but pretty sure neither has more than empty promises and we need a real 3rd choice or protest vote to send a message to BOTH parties to get with the actual voters and taxpayers.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:32 am to
Do we hit $4.00 a gallon gas this summer in Florida due to Brandon's attack on the oil and gas industry? Is the Gator's next center on the women's basketball team a dude pretending to be a girl? Will the number of illegal aliens dropped in Florida hit the 1 million mark in 2024? Can anyone afford a new home in Florida right now that isn't making 6 figures due to high interest rates and inflation caused by the Government printing money 24/7?

Final question, will we do something about this in November?

Unfortunately, If not, we all get what those who don't vote for Trump deserve.

Be one of one hundred million. That may be what it takes to win against the corruption.
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Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:04 pm to
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Do we hit $4.00 a gallon gas this summer in Florida due to Brandon's attack on the oil and gas industry?


Oil has been a monopoly for 2 centuries, they will charge what they can, when they can, and no POTUS will hammer any of them.

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Is the Gator's next center on the women's basketball team a dude pretending to be a girl?


Not if it was up to me

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Can anyone afford a new home in Florida right now that isn't making 6 figures due to high interest rates and inflation caused by the Government printing money 24/7?


Been going on since the 1980's and we took the quick fix over taking the pain to be stronger.

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Final question, will we do something about this in November?


We need a good "hangin judge" like the guy that hammered baseball when they fixed the World Series.

Neither Sleepy Joe or Trumpty Dumpty fit that bill. We need another IKE but keep picking the fleas and thinking it will get better.
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Posted on 4/21/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Oil has been a monopoly for 2 centuries, they will charge what they can, when they can, and no POTUS will hammer any of them.


True, but when democrats are in control they threaten regulations so oil companies respond by raising prices because they get spooked by them. All that said, F oil companies
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:40 am to
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True, but when democrats are in control they threaten regulations


Even worse now with the green environment scam. What would you do if you owned a company that the government was threatening to destroy on a daily basis.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:45 am to
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We need a good "hangin judge" like the guy that hammered baseball when they fixed the World Series.


True, but this type of candidate would not be elected today, too many slaves to the government voting. Baby steps to stop the bleeding, Trump is a step in the right direction. Hopefully he will be followed by an even stronger leader.
Biden winning again me put us over the edge.

Be one of one hundred million. It will take every one of us.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:07 pm to
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True, but this type of candidate would not be elected today, too many slaves to the government voting.


Not so fast.

I am old and have been through many grassroots movements. The key is to identify the correct issue then focus the voters and educate them on how to eradicate it.

Correct issue #1 = Address (with actual solution) the US debt

Correct issue #2 = Get corporations and foreign governments out of the voting booth. Put the power back in the hands of citizens


Neither Sleepy Joe or Trumpty Dumpty care to address either so both need to go. Simply compare either to IKE and you will see how both are dismal failures working for the 1%, not for you or I.
Posted by theCAW
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:24 pm to
Without a pandemic and lock downs we’ve already gone full “summer of love” and it’s still April.

MLB hasn’t even played a full month of baseball

Joe Biden is a complete disaster!
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:38 am to
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Joe Biden is a complete disaster!


Trump should win this election easily. One problem is with voters like our buddy, Cheese, who I believe is a loyal American who doesn't like Trump. We have to convince them to make the right choice. Even if you don't like Trump, you have to realize that you only have 2 choices in this election and Trump has proven to be by far the best for the country. Voting for anyone else or not voting, is a win for Biden. It might take 100 million Trump voters to overcome the corruption that will take place at the ballot box.
Be one of one hundred million Patriots to save this country as we know it.
We can't afford another 4 years of the puppet king and the people that control him. He is wrong on every major issue facing us today.
Posted by theCAW
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:38 pm to
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Trump should win this election easily
should’ve won 2020 easily but they stole the election!
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:56 am to
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One problem is with voters like our buddy, Cheese, who I believe is a loyal American who doesn't like Trump.


It is not that I do not like Trump, it is that I do not trust him based on real life experience with him and his older family long before he entered politics.

Our 3 choices are 2 old farts and a dude with a dead worm in his brain

My issue is with over 350 million AMERICANS, why is this all we have to choose from?

Nixon was the best at foreign policy, and worked for his campaign. No way does he make kissy face with the Red Commies like DJT.

Nixon (and Carter) did not play ball with the DC beltway crowd and both were more normal as kids. Not some wanna be rich kid that has never done a honest days work in his life. Sleepy Joe is tight with the old money corporate folks and DJT is in bed with the commies. Hard for me to support either choice and I just wish somebody younger that knew what real work is to most of America.

Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:57 am to
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stole the election!


theCAW

You ever worked an election?

You ever been a sworn officer and policed an election?
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 3:31 pm to
Cheese, you really believe 81 million people voted for a potato?
2020 was the most corrupt election in US history.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:55 pm to
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2020 was the most corrupt election in US history.


I have worked many an election as a sworn officer of the law. Elections have been pretty clean since the 70's. Burns me up that folks make up stuff about hard working taxpayers who work the polls for peanuts and a strong sense of civic duty. Mostly old folks like me and kids today don't vote or want to work the polls either. Merica is in the crapper.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:30 am to
100 million will right the wrongs of 2020. Those of us that do still care have had enough. You can sit on the sidelines if you want and reap the benefits of the next four years, just like you have suffered from the failures of the last 3 plus years. That's up to you. I for one will not. There is a country and a way of life to save. It's past time for the silent majority to get off their arse and save it. There will be a day of reckoning coming to the traitors in our government.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:17 am to
How many of these people have you come across?

I’m sure it’s fake.

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Posted by theCAW
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:50 pm to
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You ever worked an election?
I’ve worked against an election campaign

Adam Putnam…
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:50 am to
I meant being a worker

I have known and worked with them for over a half a century and they are by and large some of the best folks in America.

Sure you may have an oddball, but no way the in the numbers DJT has accused others of doing.

At worst, fraud accounts for 1% of the election but in my experience the number is somewhere between .01% and .00001%. As posted earlier I have served as a sworn officer of the law for elections and took my job VERY seriously. I took both offenders from D and R alike to jail. by the 1970's any fraud was pretty rare because the penalties are so severe.

Not like my youth and "Vote Early, Vote Often" was more common.

Worst offenders were not the D's or R's but the mob which is why DJT and Rudy are so offensive as they are still using those old mob ways in the DJT elections.

Again, I do not hate DJT, I just DO NOT TRUST him in any way based on personal, first hand experience with both him and his deceased father. Read my post about DJT + Mafia + South Florida earlier in this thread. You can stick you head in the sand like the ostrich but I was there and my truth is from first hand live experience. I know folks like "The Sopranos" but it is no way to run a country.

Sleepy Joe is in bed with the real corporate America so not like he is winning a beauty prize either.

Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:06 am to
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At worst, fraud accounts for 1% of the election


They didn't need 1% nationwide to steal the 2020 election. The six states and the key districts in those states was all that was needed to steal a close election. They did a great job on identifying the opportunities and taking advantage. They will be watched closer in 2024 and they will not be able to stop the landslide that is headed their way. This election should be Reagan / Mondale 2.0.

Both Brandon and Trump have a record and voters know which administration they were better off under. There are more people in the US with common sense than stupidity.
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