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re: Who is on the Mt. Rushmore of WORST SEC coaches?

Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:45 pm to
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Dennis Franchione


He was good at Alabama. Karma bit him in the arse severely at A&M.
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:45 pm to
Guys who don't win anything AND destroy programs deserve this list

- Curly Hallman
- Derek Dooley
- Joker Phillips
- Ears Whitworth
- Coach O (Ole Miss)
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53069 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Guys who don't win anything AND destroy programs deserve this list

- Curly Hallman
- Derek Dooley
- Joker Phillips
- Ears Whitworth
- Coach O (Ole Miss)






Did O really destroy Ole Miss?

Nutt came in and won with O's guys before they filtered out.

I don't think Ole Miss gave O long enough.
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 4:47 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:51 pm to
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Did O really destroy Ole Miss?


Yes - he was an abysmal head football coach at Ole Miss. There was never a single on the field moment in 3 years that pointed to things getting better.

He left some talented players for Nutt, but he also had dudes like Mike Wallace, Green Ellis, Patrick Willis, Oher, P. Jerry, etc and went 3-21 in the SEC.
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 4:52 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:52 pm to
Fair enough
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:53 pm to
He clearly changed and worked at it between Ole Miss and LSU, and I respect the hell out of that. He totally changed the way he operated.

Obviously issues are popping up now, but that doesn't overshadow that he absolutely did critique himself and change.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53069 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:54 pm to
An ideal situation is for O to be an associate head coach/recruiting coordinator to someone like Kiffin.
Posted by Inadvertent Whistle
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2015
4397 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:55 pm to
John L Smith has a record as the head coach at the University of Arkansas and he took a very talented team and sucked eggs. He makes the list.
Posted by MaroonDontRun
Richmond, Texas
Member since Feb 2004
168 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Dennis Franchione



quote:

He was good at Alabama. Karma bit him in the arse severely at A&M.


I figured the way he left would have pushed him right to the top of the list for you guys.

He failed at TAMU because he fell in love with the option.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16577 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:07 pm to
Dubose did have one 10 win season but overall he was bad and got us in probation.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:08 pm to
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I figured the way he left would have pushed him right to the top of the list for you guys.


I mean I hate him for how he left but his 2001 and 2002 seasons (pre-quitting) were very solid coaching jobs.

The hate also subsided a bit when the full story of how the athletic department really did blindsided him with the probation stuff came out. He didn't handle it well, but I do think he was lied to (or at least not told the whole story).
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Marty Dawg
Ball Ground
Member since Oct 2020
1013 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:10 pm to
Can we go ahead and add Shane Beamer?
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2221 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:15 pm to
Its sad that it is barely debatable that Arkansas has two on the list (Chadwick and John L.). What other school can boast Hall of Fame coaches (Broyles and Holtz) along with decent coaches (Hatfield, Nutt, Petrino)....and then shite the bed with anyone like Chadwick and John L.

John L. kinda sorta doesn't count as he was really a fancy interim....but we straight up hired Chadwick P. Morris and the Club Dub party.
Posted by InThroughTheOutDore
Middle TN
Member since Nov 2008
7383 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:21 pm to
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I feel like any list leaving off Watson Brown is automatically invalidated. No coach has lost more games than he has and he coached at Vanderbilt in the late-80s and early-90s.


Or Rod Dowhower, who was forced out after just two seasons at Vandy...
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42695 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:27 pm to
Obviously, I have some recency bias but Pruitt owns 2 of our worst seasons in over 120 years of football. One was a year he mostly inherited and the other a pandemic year but it's still hard to ignore how bad he is, especially when you consider all the blowout losses.
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16577 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:28 pm to
you got two coaches who have won natties. You aint too bright are you?
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5021 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:31 pm to
Ears Whitworth, Bryant’s predecessor
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42695 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

Guys who don't win anything AND destroy programs deserve this list

- Curly Hallman
- Derek Dooley
- Joker Phillips
- Ears Whitworth
- Coach O (Ole Miss)



I would take Dooley over Pruitt any day of the week.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9213 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:47 pm to
Jimbo
Posted by coastrebel
Coast
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 5:51 pm to
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